S60 D5... owners
Discussion
Potatoes said:
I sold mine in 2012 and still miss it!
It is definitely the best (practical) car I've owned, good at most things, bad at nothing.
…apart from lugging around anything bigger than a suitcase (or many suitcases). It is definitely the best (practical) car I've owned, good at most things, bad at nothing.
The boot aperture is crazily small. It certainly made my run to the other end of the country to pick up some dining chairs off eBay worthwhile…
I've just bough my first S60 D5, one owner car with full service history. Manual gearbox, 163K miles. Last MOT had one advisory, and the previous ones all clear.
Drove it from Bristol to Blandford this afternoon, fantastic drive with good economy.
BUT
Once home I could smell diesel standing outside the car, looked around and ended up removing the engine cover. The two nearside injectors have fuel leaking from the nut (I think) that connects the injectors to the fuel supply.
Also have condensation in the front lights, but I have a feeling somethings not been put back right after changing a bulb.
Drove it from Bristol to Blandford this afternoon, fantastic drive with good economy.
BUT
Once home I could smell diesel standing outside the car, looked around and ended up removing the engine cover. The two nearside injectors have fuel leaking from the nut (I think) that connects the injectors to the fuel supply.
Also have condensation in the front lights, but I have a feeling somethings not been put back right after changing a bulb.
I know this issue is just cosmetic...but any advice?
I drive an 11-year old S60 which has just hit 70,000 miles.
On anything other than a newly resurfaced road, there is an annoying and constant rattle which appears to come from either the NS passenger front or rear windows. At a guess, one or both windows are not firmly attached to the seals. When I gently push the NS windows against the seals in their housing, the rattle goes away, but it will reoccur a short while later.
Could the window seals simply have perished over the past 11 years?
There is also a lot of wind noise at motorway speeds from both rear side windows. There are many documented cases online of Volvo owners complaining about wind noise from their door mirrors - but this noise comes from the rear of the passenger cabin, on the sides.
Take it to the stealers and ask, and part with a large amount of cash?
I drive an 11-year old S60 which has just hit 70,000 miles.
On anything other than a newly resurfaced road, there is an annoying and constant rattle which appears to come from either the NS passenger front or rear windows. At a guess, one or both windows are not firmly attached to the seals. When I gently push the NS windows against the seals in their housing, the rattle goes away, but it will reoccur a short while later.
Could the window seals simply have perished over the past 11 years?
There is also a lot of wind noise at motorway speeds from both rear side windows. There are many documented cases online of Volvo owners complaining about wind noise from their door mirrors - but this noise comes from the rear of the passenger cabin, on the sides.
Take it to the stealers and ask, and part with a large amount of cash?
iSore said:
mcgandalf said:
As a very happy Sport owner - how is the ride dreadful?
If you live in an area where the roads are smooth - it's probably fine.Up North where they aren't - it's absolutely appalling and the worst riding car I've driven. The problem is seriously stiff damping.
I've had 5 series and 7 series, and they do drive well, but now considering a Volvo S60 D5, as they seem to do everything I now would like.......comfort, ease of drive, enough performance matched with enough economy.....and decent ICE, and sounds not too bad...............or maybe a 730D with high miles 
delboy735 said:
I've had 5 series and 7 series, and they do drive well, but now considering a Volvo S60 D5, as they seem to do everything I now would like.......comfort, ease of drive, enough performance matched with enough economy.....and decent ICE, and sounds not too bad...............or maybe a 730D with high miles
Try one first - the huge turning circle is a pain in the arse in city streets. They're a lovely motorway car though.iSore said:
delboy735 said:
I've had 5 series and 7 series, and they do drive well, but now considering a Volvo S60 D5, as they seem to do everything I now would like.......comfort, ease of drive, enough performance matched with enough economy.....and decent ICE, and sounds not too bad...............or maybe a 730D with high miles
Try one first - the huge turning circle is a pain in the arse in city streets. They're a lovely motorway car though.I'm finally, once again, looking at an S60 D5 E3 as a replacement car, I've looked into them before but never yet bought.
Just want to check regarding the auto vs manual debate, my miles are almost entirely town, with the odd short motorway trip and very occasional mammoth treks to the other end of the country.
For my usual town driving, how much less mpg am I likely looking at getting? I'm not sure whether the difference is more pronounced round town or on the motorway.
What's the usual mog penalty for having the auto on and off the motorway?
Thanks!
Just want to check regarding the auto vs manual debate, my miles are almost entirely town, with the odd short motorway trip and very occasional mammoth treks to the other end of the country.
For my usual town driving, how much less mpg am I likely looking at getting? I'm not sure whether the difference is more pronounced round town or on the motorway.
What's the usual mog penalty for having the auto on and off the motorway?
Thanks!
If you're primarily driving in town, the economy of the auto will be significantly reduced! In my experience, circa 10-20%, although this doesn't accord with the official figure. This is from my own experience with having various Volvos over the years.
But I have to say, auto is preferable in traffic if you can live with the reduced economy.
But I have to say, auto is preferable in traffic if you can live with the reduced economy.
Why go diesel, I guess I'd ask. You'll be very unlikely to better 35mpg, if that, at an educated guess, so the petrol's 30ish isn't far adrift. Values lower than diesels.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
MYOB said:
If you're primarily driving in town, the economy of the auto will be significantly reduced! In my experience, circa 10-20%, although this doesn't accord with the official figure. This is from my own experience with having various Volvos over the years.
But I have to say, auto is preferable in traffic if you can live with the reduced economy.
I feared as much.But I have to say, auto is preferable in traffic if you can live with the reduced economy.
Yes, definitely think I'd prefer an auto, but as well as reduced economy, the other issue I have with an auto is that I'm conditioned to thinking it will throw a transmission fault at about 150K, and most of the cars I'm looking at already have 100K on the clock. Once you factor in a new box AND reduced mpg the convenience of the auto starts to look very expensive!
Bonefish Blues said:
Why go diesel, I guess I'd ask. You'll be very unlikely to better 35mpg, if that, at an educated guess, so the petrol's 30ish isn't far adrift. Values lower than diesels.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
You're right that my money would go a lot further (or I'd need a lot less of it!) with a petrol, the problem is that the petrol will never do 30ish for me in town. My current 2.0 petrol Mondeo does about 20mpg in my urban commute, so I don't think for a moment that even the 2.0T could do much better than that. (previous 530iA did about 12mpg in town, and Focus 1.8 petrol was also on about 22mpg IIRC) I'd still be expecting 30+ around town from a manual D5, which across a year should pay for the extra outlay for the diesel.http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
That said, if the right 2.0T or better yet, T5, came up and they were keenly priced then I'd consider one, but think I'm going to give the diesel a go this time seeing as everyone raves about them.
Blue Oval84 said:
You're right that my money would go a lot further (or I'd need a lot less of it!) with a petrol, the problem is that the petrol will never do 30ish for me in town. My current 2.0 petrol Mondeo does about 20mpg in my urban commute, so I don't think for a moment that even the 2.0T could do much better than that. (previous 530iA did about 12mpg in town, and Focus 1.8 petrol was also on about 22mpg IIRC) I'd still be expecting 30+ around town from a manual D5, which across a year should pay for the extra outlay for the diesel.
That said, if the right 2.0T or better yet, T5, came up and they were keenly priced then I'd consider one, but think I'm going to give the diesel a go this time seeing as everyone raves about them.
Remember also that clutch and DMF, plus slave cylinder fitted = about a graaand. They are great, you're right, esp in E3 form, but you've picked the worst application for it, I fear! That said, if the right 2.0T or better yet, T5, came up and they were keenly priced then I'd consider one, but think I'm going to give the diesel a go this time seeing as everyone raves about them.
Bonefish Blues said:
Remember also that clutch and DMF, plus slave cylinder fitted = about a graaand. They are great, you're right, esp in E3 form, but you've picked the worst application for it, I fear!
I chose a Mondeo for it last time and haven't regretted it, the roads round here make the ones in Russian dashcams look like billiard tables! 
Yes, appreciate that clutch and DMF are very expensive (had them go in my ST TDCi years ago) but, I figure we're not quite into write off territory if they go, whereas the geartronic is likely to be beyond economic repair much earlier in the cars life?
If I'm overegging the risk of gearbox failure then I may need to take another look at the one I've seen on ebay...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volvo-S60-2-4TD-auto-200...
You probably are. There are bad boxes out there, the key is a good long test drive to get it well up to temperature. If it still shifts OK, then great. Any clunking, baulking, or other negatives, run like the wind.
Of course, in an ideal world you'd want to see change(s) with JWS 3309 fluid, but that's a big bonus, so legislate for one immediately you get it and the box should be fine.
To repeat, there's nothing intrinsically wrong with the AW5 unit, but sealed for life it isn't (well I suppose it is, since as you say, if the box fails, then the car's essentially a goner anyway!) despite Volvo's failure to spec ATF changes. It gets along just fine in many other applications, and we have one on my wife's XC70 E3. Shift changes were slightly iffy when we got it (plus warranty!), a full fluid change later by the dealer and all's been well for the last 2 years.
Of course, in an ideal world you'd want to see change(s) with JWS 3309 fluid, but that's a big bonus, so legislate for one immediately you get it and the box should be fine.
To repeat, there's nothing intrinsically wrong with the AW5 unit, but sealed for life it isn't (well I suppose it is, since as you say, if the box fails, then the car's essentially a goner anyway!) despite Volvo's failure to spec ATF changes. It gets along just fine in many other applications, and we have one on my wife's XC70 E3. Shift changes were slightly iffy when we got it (plus warranty!), a full fluid change later by the dealer and all's been well for the last 2 years.
Well, I've now found a low miles (<70K) Facelifted E3 D5 Manual, right colour (grey) with the cream leather, in SE spec. If it's still there then I'll view it at the weekend, and at £3K I think the price is right too. A quick scan of the MOT history throws up nothing untoward either.
That said, it is due a cambelt on age (11 years old) rather than miles, so will need to factor that into the cost.
That said, it is due a cambelt on age (11 years old) rather than miles, so will need to factor that into the cost.
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