S60 D5... owners

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hashtag

1,116 posts

154 months

Monday 6th November 2017
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Sadly my S60 is on eBay, .99p no reserve.

I have found the Achilles heel of these cars.

The clutch. Mine started slipping last week so popped into the local Volvo specialist.

£1150.00 fitted clutch and dual mass flywheel

Just not worth doing on a 15 year old car with 145000.

If it’s had been £600.00 I probably would have done it


Bonefish Blues

26,648 posts

223 months

Monday 6th November 2017
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hashtag said:
Sadly my S60 is on eBay, .99p no reserve.

I have found the Achilles heel of these cars.

The clutch. Mine started slipping last week so popped into the local Volvo specialist.

£1150.00 fitted clutch and dual mass flywheel

Just not worth doing on a 15 year old car with 145000.

If it’s had been £600.00 I probably would have done it
Worth trying another one, perhaps, just to see - these guys have a good reputation:

http://www.sheffieldandmeredith.com/

ph9

221 posts

94 months

Monday 14th December 2020
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After reading through most of the 40-pages of this old thread I thought I'd resurrect it...

I've seen a 2005 S60 D5 163bhp Sport which seems to be in clean condition. 135,000 miles. It says it has a full service history, but some 'stamps' in the book say "Self Service"... It has an ABS fault - with a new sensor included, but that could mean it's a more serious fault.

It's a private sale (although it could be a 'trader' selling cars on the side).

I put the registration number into WeBuyAnyCar and they offered £500. The asking price is 3.5 times that!

An RAC HPI check gave some Glass' figures (£1800 retail asking price, £1025 private asking price, trade-in above average £475).

So, do you think a private seller could expect around £1800, or are they chancing their hand?

I'm going to have the car checked by a mechanic, and might be quite keen on it if it checks out. However, there's a big difference in the Glass' £1025 private asking price and the actual asking price of this car! I could try haggling, but that difference means I might get nowhere. IS it worth paying nearer the asking price if the car seems clean, or is it way over-priced?


Bonefish Blues

26,648 posts

223 months

Monday 14th December 2020
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If perfect it might have been worth pushing more money at it because it would serve you well, but as it stands with an undiagnosed fault (could be sensor, might be something else) not worth that, or close to that.

Hugo Stiglitz

37,116 posts

211 months

Monday 14th December 2020
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ph9 said:
After reading through most of the 40-pages of this old thread I thought I'd resurrect it...

I've seen a 2005 S60 D5 163bhp Sport which seems to be in clean condition. 135,000 miles. It says it has a full service history, but some 'stamps' in the book say "Self Service"... It has an ABS fault - with a new sensor included, but that could mean it's a more serious fault.

It's a private sale (although it could be a 'trader' selling cars on the side).

I put the registration number into WeBuyAnyCar and they offered £500. The asking price is 3.5 times that!

An RAC HPI check gave some Glass' figures (£1800 retail asking price, £1025 private asking price, trade-in above average £475).

So, do you think a private seller could expect around £1800, or are they chancing their hand?

I'm going to have the car checked by a mechanic, and might be quite keen on it if it checks out. However, there's a big difference in the Glass' £1025 private asking price and the actual asking price of this car! I could try haggling, but that difference means I might get nowhere. IS it worth paying nearer the asking price if the car seems clean, or is it way over-priced?
I wouldn't buy that.

Valuing the plate is great but what if it fails its mot and you can't transfer it off...

ph9

221 posts

94 months

Monday 14th December 2020
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Hugo Stiglitz said:
I wouldn't buy that.

Valuing the plate is great but what if it fails its mot and you can't transfer it off...
Sorry, I didn't mean that the plate is 'private' or has a value. It's a standard 05 number plate, and the WeBuyAnyCar quote and all the other valuations are for the car itself.

Just to clarify (hopefully!)

Asking price £1800
WeBuyAnyCar offer £500
Glass' Suggested Retail Price (if buying from a dealer, probably with warranty) £1805
Glass' Suggested Private Price (if buying privately, car in good condition) £1025
Glass' Above Average Trade-In £475
Parker's Suggested Retail from Franchised Dealer £1645
Parker's Suggested Retail from Independent Dealer £1105
Parker's Suggested Private (good condition) £765

Hopefully my mechanic will be able to confirm its condition, but it would be good to have an idea of a fair price. I don't mind paying a bit more if it's rust-free and likely to last for years. I know there could be some fairly large bills along the way (eg clutch and DMF), but I wouldn't want to start spending hundreds/thousands straightaway, and the ABS problem could potentially be expensive if it turned out to be a drive-shaft or wheel bearing etc. It might be better to wait for something else to turn up.




Edited by ph9 on Monday 14th December 15:30

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 14th December 2020
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There is a common issue with the ATE brake control module (BCM) on various Volvo (and other) models around then. Back 8 years ago they couldn't be remanufactured, a 2nd hand one couldn't be coded to the car (it gave a yaw sensor error!) and a new one cost me £1k but I have a vague recollection that they're "only" £300 or so now.

redandwhite

479 posts

129 months

Tuesday 15th December 2020
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ph9 said:
After reading through most of the 40-pages of this old thread I thought I'd resurrect it...

I've seen a 2005 S60 D5 163bhp Sport which seems to be in clean condition. 135,000 miles. It says it has a full service history, but some 'stamps' in the book say "Self Service"... It has an ABS fault - with a new sensor included, but that could mean it's a more serious fault.

It's a private sale (although it could be a 'trader' selling cars on the side).

I put the registration number into WeBuyAnyCar and they offered £500. The asking price is 3.5 times that!

An RAC HPI check gave some Glass' figures (£1800 retail asking price, £1025 private asking price, trade-in above average £475).

So, do you think a private seller could expect around £1800, or are they chancing their hand?

I'm going to have the car checked by a mechanic, and might be quite keen on it if it checks out. However, there's a big difference in the Glass' £1025 private asking price and the actual asking price of this car! I could try haggling, but that difference means I might get nowhere. IS it worth paying nearer the asking price if the car seems clean, or is it way over-priced?
Have you tested the water with the seller as to movement in price? I would do that before you do anything else. If he said no the price is firm...would you still be interested?

With an obvious ABS issue (could be sensor, might not be) you should have some wiggle room.

ph9

221 posts

94 months

Tuesday 15th December 2020
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The mechanic identified a few issues, including what is probably causing the ABS problem (ie no driveshaft bolt!)

I've managed to negotiate a price I'm happy with, so should hopefully have the car within the next few days.

Despite only having driven the car around a carpark, and not really had a chance to sit in it and 'take it in' I'm really excited about getting it! For some strange reason I'm looking forward to this car more than if I'd bought something newer and more expensive.

I've even joined the Volvo Owners' Club! Now I just need to see about buying some parts for it, mainly a front wheel bearing kit. Any suggestions on what to buy, and where to get it from?

Bonefish Blues

26,648 posts

223 months

Tuesday 15th December 2020
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SKF is a good safe choice but also check out OEM via Volvopartstrade on eBay, often just as cheap.

ph9

221 posts

94 months

Tuesday 15th December 2020
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Thanks very much. I had SKF as a first choice, so I'll see if I can find these locally. If not, I'll look online. Thanks also for the info about volvopartstrade - I might buy a few things for a service.

Bonefish Blues

26,648 posts

223 months

Tuesday 15th December 2020
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Shell 5w40 synth at sub £30/5 litres most weekends from Eurocarparts plus Mahle (OEM) filter is what many people use in the Euro 3 engine, me included, but the service kits from vpartstrade are also good value.

Yeti97

400 posts

92 months

Tuesday 12th January 2021
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Crossover shed post! Picked up my first Volvo just before Christmas. Only just managed to sell my previous car so this is my main car now. Already on the hunt for genuine S60 roof racks on Gumtree.

The picture is stolen from the advert as I'm too lazy to make my own. Tax disc holder since removed. It's a '03 D5 with 154,000 on the clock. Loving every second I spend inside. Slight poverty spec and missing some little features. The driver's heated seat doesn't work but the passenger side does (girlfriend is happy). Need to check over the connectors but I reckon the pad/whatever is just borked. Offside lamp wiper is also on backward? So need to look into that.

The noise of the D5 engine is quite lovely. Happiest I've been with a car purchase since I started driving.


rat840771

2,023 posts

165 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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Great, underrated cars and will go forever! Really regret selling mine.

wiliferus

4,060 posts

198 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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Just got a new MoT on my V70 D5 185. Two advisories, one for play in the steering rack, which I think is a feature of the car, as all of my 3 Volvos had had this. And rns tyre wearing on the inner edge.
I’ll take that for a 14 year old, 189k mile car!

The 185 unit is a peach. Even with the AWD it’s getting 45mpg, pulls so well through the manual gearbox. I’m getting close to having to change it, but it’s a reluctant choice. Was contemplating the FiLs S80 D5 but I need the V70 space, and obvs it’s an auto and I’m not ready for a slush box just yet hehe

So here’s to another year of happy Volvo motoring!

850R

227 posts

131 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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Cannot beat a Euro 3 D5 in either S60 or V70, far less problematic than the Euro 4, my best mate runs an independent Volvo specialist, so he has quite a lot of experience!!

We have a 2003 V70 D5 manual sport with 238k on the clock and it’s sweet as a nut, we sit in total comfort and it hauls our 28ft twin axle caravan along with ease, the comfiest car I’ve ever driven by a mile. Solo it will do mid 50s on a run, around town late 30s early 40s, with the van it does mid 20 all day long.

A nice upgrade on these is to run the XC90 callipers with 336mm discs, much better performance.

wiliferus

4,060 posts

198 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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To be fair I’ve had a euro3 and currently a euro4. Both have been fantastic. The E3 was more economical, but the E4 is a better drive, more keen to rev and a more enjoyable drive. And, touch wood, the E4 hasn’t caused me any reliability issues other than a split turbo pipe which could happen to any turbo’d car. I do lots of miles though, so all the EGR/DPF euro gubbins stays nice and healthy.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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Chaps, a little advice from the fine beards here would be much appreciated. I have enquired about this 2005 S80 D5. I had a V70 (manual) a couple of years ago and loved it, and I am keen to scratch the Volvo itch again.

The price, to me and from looking around, seems suspiciously cheap, especially given the work that has apparently been done on it (gearbox flush in particular, Geartronic issues are what put me off an auto V70 before), and the very minor faults that do not concern me at all.

The pictures are of course terrible, it hasn’t been cleaned and it looks like there are a load of fag butts in it which might go some way to explain the price. But, the description is fairly well written and detailed so I’m a touch confused!

One of my friends thinks it could just be so cheap because he wants it gone, and diesel barges aren’t exactly sought after at the moment, which is possible.

I have asked what the history is like (stamps or invoices, and how much there is), when it last had a timing belt and for the reg so I can check the MOT history.

What do you guys think, would you touch it with a barge (pardon the pun) pole?

Bonefish Blues

26,648 posts

223 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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Get it properly hot, see if the gearbox still behaves, if so, chisel another £100 or so off and you may have a bargain.

wiliferus

4,060 posts

198 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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If it looks bad in the pictures (which it does) you can guarantee it’ll be worse in the flesh!
That said, at that price if it’s mechanically sound with a bit of TLC and elbow grease the interior could be sorted.

ETA - have you also noticed in the first pic what looks like a battery boost pack on the pavement? So budget for a new battery!
Also the claims in the Ad of 65mpg on a run and 92mpg at 90mph are, as I’m sure you know, laughable. A E3 Auto S80... 30mpg around town on a good day, and you’ll be doing well to get 45mpg on a run.

Edited by wiliferus on Thursday 28th January 20:35