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Hugo a Gogo
15,177 posts
102 months
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perdu
3,255 posts
68 months
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FFFFFlip me that is brilliant! Here is the future for modelling, that's me redundant any day soon  wow 
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garethj
Original Poster
570 posts
66 months
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I don't think anyone's going to be redundant if they've got manual skills - to get the master model ready for casting took lots of hard work and time, just as if it was carved like a traditional scratchbuilt car.
Some things like the CAD model and 3D printing are high tech, but the bodyshell is resin cast which is traditional as can be, and the windows are even vacuum formed which must be almost as old as Bakelite!
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_Al_
5,094 posts
127 months
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That is mighty impressive. Do you own the 3D printer or have you used one of those sites where you send a design and they print it for you?
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garethj
Original Poster
570 posts
66 months
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Wish I could justify buying a good 3D printer, I can’t even justify one of those cheap ones with poor resolution!
As you say, there are bureaus that make parts when you send them the 3D data so I use them. A few have some very slick user interfaces where you upload the CAD file and it gives you a price on the spot. Then you can change the material from a drop down menu and it updates the price.
The chassis I make need to be tough but with not much surface detail so the SLS process is ideal. For bodyshells they only need the strength to support themselves but be high detail, an SLA or good 3D print is best for this application.
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_Al_
5,094 posts
127 months
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Don't suppose you could recommend a couple? I have a long term project in mind (unique gift for Dad's birthday). Knowing where to go for good quality modelling resource without spending days trawling google would be helpful!
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Stew2000
2,513 posts
47 months
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At the moment I use Shapeways for printing.
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garethj
Original Poster
570 posts
66 months
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Shapeways are good, also try i.Materialise or ipfl
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98elise
3,177 posts
30 months
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Fantastic  I've often thought I'd like an RC american car with 1970's handling and grip.
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Mighty Flex
507 posts
40 months
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98elise said: Fantastic  I've often thought I'd like an RC american car with 1970's handling and grip. This is something I have pondered too. A rally chassis running softest possible springs and damping+ some hard low grip tyres is probably the way to achieve it. to get the roll right though is difficult, as you will spend most of the time upside down if you give the car a suitably high CoG and jelly suspension. I love the slot car by the way - fantastic idea, and beautifully executed.
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_Al_
5,094 posts
127 months
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Thanks for the supplier recommendations - I'll take a look at those.
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garethj
Original Poster
570 posts
66 months
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Mighty Flex said: This is something I have pondered too. A rally chassis running softest possible springs and damping+ some hard low grip tyres is probably the way to achieve it.
to get the roll right though is difficult, as you will spend most of the time upside down if you give the car a suitably high CoG and jelly suspension. I don't think you'd spend too much time upside down with soft springs; thinking back to TV shows of my youth not many cars turned over unless they'd been blown up by the A Team, driving over a ramp concealed by a bush. 2CVs seem to hang on too, so you don't need a high centre of gravity just soft enough springs.  
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Big Rod
3,711 posts
85 months
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garethj
Original Poster
570 posts
66 months
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They look like most of the Scalextric cars from my youth – well played with!
Just as with real cars, ebay is the devil’s own website for slot cars. All the exotic (ok, not so much now!) slot cars from France or Spain from the ‘70s and ‘80s are available from there, as well as other great stuff I’d never heard of. If you don’t want it in mint condition, it’s mostly quite cheap too
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SystemParanoia
8,530 posts
67 months
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DavidY
3,208 posts
153 months
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I havce both the 4 wheel drive Audi Quattro and RS200. 4 wheel drive is accomplished with a rubber band to front wheels! Cars were slower than regular 2wd ones, but the RS200 handled beautifully, awesome drift vehicle!
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Rude-boy
15,544 posts
102 months
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DavidY said: I havce both the 4 wheel drive Audi Quattro and RS200. 4 wheel drive is accomplished with a rubber band to front wheels! Cars were slower than regular 2wd ones, but the RS200 handled beautifully, awesome drift vehicle! There are a number though that are proper 4 wheel drive with a long crank on the motor and a cog on each end. Never did get round to buying one but I think that they are made by SCX. Also had the RS200 which was mega, one of the most fun cars to drive. The Audi was good but the COG and track meant that it would roll easily. Fixed that by adding a SRS rear axle 
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Big Rod
3,711 posts
85 months
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Gareth, do the braids stay connected/parallel to the track or are they prone to 'articulation'?
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garethj
Original Poster
570 posts
66 months
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I had an Audi Quattro 4x4 and I don’t think there was any advantage to it, not least because the wheels are barely touching the track and they’d be scrabbling for grip through turns because there’s no diff. It doesn’t matter for the rear wheels which are usually sliding a bit through corners. Big Rod said: Gareth, do the braids stay connected/parallel to the track or are they prone to 'articulation'? The guide on my car stays parallel to the track because it’s linked to the front axle. The front and rear axles should stay flat on the track and the chassis (with body) rolls around it. You can just see on the video that the front inside wheel lifts a bit but that’s because the front and rear roll centres aren’t exactly the same, I’m just working on a correction now on a new chassis. That’s the advantage of rapid prototypes – no tooling to change.
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garethj
Original Poster
570 posts
66 months
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Resin cast shells for the Bluesmobile completed today, they came out really well  Now I need to create the decals and get them made
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