First kit in 22 years !
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In the spirit of carrying on the hi-jack 
I'm not convinced that you "lose it" during a long hiatus from modelling enough not to come out fighting as some of them do.
I was "out of it" for about thirty years until I recently got involved here and decided to get back down to a build.
I tacked along with the "Make a Tempest" group build and I thought my Typhoon wasn't bad for a forty year old Frog kit and an out of touch (do you realise just how much has changed in that kind of time frame?) model maker.
I soon got the hang of using the tools, found immense pleasure in the availability of once impossible to get info from t'intynet, then found I still loved the old game again.
And the skills I had aren't too rusty from being laid off for so long and there is so much new "stuff" to try and enjoy. Yahoo...
I'm not convinced that you "lose it" during a long hiatus from modelling enough not to come out fighting as some of them do.
I was "out of it" for about thirty years until I recently got involved here and decided to get back down to a build.
I tacked along with the "Make a Tempest" group build and I thought my Typhoon wasn't bad for a forty year old Frog kit and an out of touch (do you realise just how much has changed in that kind of time frame?) model maker.
I soon got the hang of using the tools, found immense pleasure in the availability of once impossible to get info from t'intynet, then found I still loved the old game again.
And the skills I had aren't too rusty from being laid off for so long and there is so much new "stuff" to try and enjoy. Yahoo...
Well said Perdu, I agree with all of that.
From the early 1990's I was a prolific figure/bust painter and produced some nice pieces. However, due to relationship and work commitments things changed and I fell away from the hobby. In recent years (and even now) I've been going over some of what I felt were my lesser figures and more importantly work that was left in progress..and I'm getting some good results again by re-painting those.
The most crucial aspect of painting figures is replicating human flesh in paint and by going back to my original method (using Windsor & Newton oils), I've never felt more confident!
I'll post a pic of my (in progress) 1/10 scale bust of Uboat commander Eric Toft once I work out how to add photos via this new camera.
From the early 1990's I was a prolific figure/bust painter and produced some nice pieces. However, due to relationship and work commitments things changed and I fell away from the hobby. In recent years (and even now) I've been going over some of what I felt were my lesser figures and more importantly work that was left in progress..and I'm getting some good results again by re-painting those.
The most crucial aspect of painting figures is replicating human flesh in paint and by going back to my original method (using Windsor & Newton oils), I've never felt more confident!
I'll post a pic of my (in progress) 1/10 scale bust of Uboat commander Eric Toft once I work out how to add photos via this new camera.
kenny Chim 4 said:
Well said Perdu, I agree with all of that.
From the early 1990's I was a prolific figure/bust painter and produced some nice pieces. However, due to relationship and work commitments things changed and I fell away from the hobby. In recent years (and even now) I've been going over some of what I felt were my lesser figures and more importantly work that was left in progress..and I'm getting some good results again by re-painting those.
The most crucial aspect of painting figures is replicating human flesh in paint and by going back to my original method (using Windsor & Newton oils), I've never felt more confident!
I'll post a pic of my (in progress) 1/10 scale bust of Uboat commander Eric Toft once I work out how to add photos via this new camera.
:montypythonmode:From the early 1990's I was a prolific figure/bust painter and produced some nice pieces. However, due to relationship and work commitments things changed and I fell away from the hobby. In recent years (and even now) I've been going over some of what I felt were my lesser figures and more importantly work that was left in progress..and I'm getting some good results again by re-painting those.
The most crucial aspect of painting figures is replicating human flesh in paint and by going back to my original method (using Windsor & Newton oils), I've never felt more confident!
I'll post a pic of my (in progress) 1/10 scale bust of Uboat commander Eric Toft once I work out how to add photos via this new camera.
You had work that was left "in progress" You were lucky!
:/montypythonmode:
I could weep at the stuff I S T U P I D L Y threw away
Anyway, I'm back and staying
Well done Sir- we're never too old.
I mentioned returning to methods that I used a few years ago with some success but we're not too old to learn some new tricks!
Long may people like Mej023 post different things such as his/hers Gundam robot on here. It is excellent and I love the diversity and range of products that this forum can conjure up- along with useful historical data from the likes of Eric and dr_gn etc.
I mentioned returning to methods that I used a few years ago with some success but we're not too old to learn some new tricks!
Long may people like Mej023 post different things such as his/hers Gundam robot on here. It is excellent and I love the diversity and range of products that this forum can conjure up- along with useful historical data from the likes of Eric and dr_gn etc.
kenny Chim 4 said:
Well said Perdu, I agree with all of that.
From the early 1990's I was a prolific figure/bust painter and produced some nice pieces. However, due to relationship and work commitments things changed and I fell away from the hobby. In recent years (and even now) I've been going over some of what I felt were my lesser figures and more importantly work that was left in progress..and I'm getting some good results again by re-painting those.
The most crucial aspect of painting figures is replicating human flesh in paint and by going back to my original method (using Windsor & Newton oils), I've never felt more confident!
I'll post a pic of my (in progress) 1/10 scale bust of Uboat commander Eric Toft once I work out how to add photos via this new camera.
Just out of interest re. oils: I'm using Winsor & Newton Winton Burnt Sienna and Raw Sienna to get a woodgrain effect on my SE5a model. It works well, but it takes ages to dry - particularly the Raw Sienna. It's been painted about a week now and is still not dry. Any tips or usual drying times? I've already ruined the parts twice and started again becasue of overcoating them too soon with acrylic. Any masking just lifts the oils paint off the base coat.From the early 1990's I was a prolific figure/bust painter and produced some nice pieces. However, due to relationship and work commitments things changed and I fell away from the hobby. In recent years (and even now) I've been going over some of what I felt were my lesser figures and more importantly work that was left in progress..and I'm getting some good results again by re-painting those.
The most crucial aspect of painting figures is replicating human flesh in paint and by going back to my original method (using Windsor & Newton oils), I've never felt more confident!
I'll post a pic of my (in progress) 1/10 scale bust of Uboat commander Eric Toft once I work out how to add photos via this new camera.
perdu said:
In the spirit of carrying on the hi-jack
I'm not convinced that you "lose it" during a long hiatus from modelling enough not to come out fighting as some of them do.
I was "out of it" for about thirty years until I recently got involved here and decided to get back down to a build.
I tacked along with the "Make a Tempest" group build and I thought my Typhoon wasn't bad for a forty year old Frog kit and an out of touch (do you realise just how much has changed in that kind of time frame?) model maker.
I soon got the hang of using the tools, found immense pleasure in the availability of once impossible to get info from t'intynet, then found I still loved the old game again.
And the skills I had aren't too rusty from being laid off for so long and there is so much new "stuff" to try and enjoy. Yahoo...
Well then, I possibly stand corrected. I simply find it hard to believe the standard some people can achieve after such a long lay-off. I'm not convinced that you "lose it" during a long hiatus from modelling enough not to come out fighting as some of them do.
I was "out of it" for about thirty years until I recently got involved here and decided to get back down to a build.
I tacked along with the "Make a Tempest" group build and I thought my Typhoon wasn't bad for a forty year old Frog kit and an out of touch (do you realise just how much has changed in that kind of time frame?) model maker.
I soon got the hang of using the tools, found immense pleasure in the availability of once impossible to get info from t'intynet, then found I still loved the old game again.
And the skills I had aren't too rusty from being laid off for so long and there is so much new "stuff" to try and enjoy. Yahoo...
Marshdweller said:
perdu said:
In the spirit of carrying on the hi-jack
I'm not convinced that you "lose it" during a long hiatus from modelling enough not to come out fighting as some of them do.
I was "out of it" for about thirty years until I recently got involved here and decided to get back down to a build.
I tacked along with the "Make a Tempest" group build and I thought my Typhoon wasn't bad for a forty year old Frog kit and an out of touch (do you realise just how much has changed in that kind of time frame?) model maker.
I soon got the hang of using the tools, found immense pleasure in the availability of once impossible to get info from t'intynet, then found I still loved the old game again.
And the skills I had aren't too rusty from being laid off for so long and there is so much new "stuff" to try and enjoy. Yahoo...
Well then, I possibly stand corrected. I simply find it hard to believe the standard some people can achieve after such a long lay-off. I'm not convinced that you "lose it" during a long hiatus from modelling enough not to come out fighting as some of them do.
I was "out of it" for about thirty years until I recently got involved here and decided to get back down to a build.
I tacked along with the "Make a Tempest" group build and I thought my Typhoon wasn't bad for a forty year old Frog kit and an out of touch (do you realise just how much has changed in that kind of time frame?) model maker.
I soon got the hang of using the tools, found immense pleasure in the availability of once impossible to get info from t'intynet, then found I still loved the old game again.
And the skills I had aren't too rusty from being laid off for so long and there is so much new "stuff" to try and enjoy. Yahoo...
dr_gn said:
Marshdweller said:
perdu said:
In the spirit of carrying on the hi-jack
I'm not convinced that you "lose it" during a long hiatus from modelling enough not to come out fighting as some of them do.
I was "out of it" for about thirty years until I recently got involved here and decided to get back down to a build.
I tacked along with the "Make a Tempest" group build and I thought my Typhoon wasn't bad for a forty year old Frog kit and an out of touch (do you realise just how much has changed in that kind of time frame?) model maker.
I soon got the hang of using the tools, found immense pleasure in the availability of once impossible to get info from t'intynet, then found I still loved the old game again.
And the skills I had aren't too rusty from being laid off for so long and there is so much new "stuff" to try and enjoy. Yahoo...
Well then, I possibly stand corrected. I simply find it hard to believe the standard some people can achieve after such a long lay-off. I'm not convinced that you "lose it" during a long hiatus from modelling enough not to come out fighting as some of them do.
I was "out of it" for about thirty years until I recently got involved here and decided to get back down to a build.
I tacked along with the "Make a Tempest" group build and I thought my Typhoon wasn't bad for a forty year old Frog kit and an out of touch (do you realise just how much has changed in that kind of time frame?) model maker.
I soon got the hang of using the tools, found immense pleasure in the availability of once impossible to get info from t'intynet, then found I still loved the old game again.
And the skills I had aren't too rusty from being laid off for so long and there is so much new "stuff" to try and enjoy. Yahoo...
I take your point though.
Marshdweller said:
dr_gn said:
Marshdweller said:
perdu said:
In the spirit of carrying on the hi-jack
I'm not convinced that you "lose it" during a long hiatus from modelling enough not to come out fighting as some of them do.
I was "out of it" for about thirty years until I recently got involved here and decided to get back down to a build.
I tacked along with the "Make a Tempest" group build and I thought my Typhoon wasn't bad for a forty year old Frog kit and an out of touch (do you realise just how much has changed in that kind of time frame?) model maker.
I soon got the hang of using the tools, found immense pleasure in the availability of once impossible to get info from t'intynet, then found I still loved the old game again.
And the skills I had aren't too rusty from being laid off for so long and there is so much new "stuff" to try and enjoy. Yahoo...
Well then, I possibly stand corrected. I simply find it hard to believe the standard some people can achieve after such a long lay-off. I'm not convinced that you "lose it" during a long hiatus from modelling enough not to come out fighting as some of them do.
I was "out of it" for about thirty years until I recently got involved here and decided to get back down to a build.
I tacked along with the "Make a Tempest" group build and I thought my Typhoon wasn't bad for a forty year old Frog kit and an out of touch (do you realise just how much has changed in that kind of time frame?) model maker.
I soon got the hang of using the tools, found immense pleasure in the availability of once impossible to get info from t'intynet, then found I still loved the old game again.
And the skills I had aren't too rusty from being laid off for so long and there is so much new "stuff" to try and enjoy. Yahoo...
I take your point though.
dr_gn said:
Just out of interest re. oils: I'm using Winsor & Newton Winton Burnt Sienna and Raw Sienna to get a woodgrain effect on my SE5a model. It works well, but it takes ages to dry - particularly the Raw Sienna. It's been painted about a week now and is still not dry. Any tips or usual drying times? I've already ruined the parts twice and started again becasue of overcoating them too soon with acrylic. Any masking just lifts the oils paint off the base coat.
Hi dr_gn, sorry for the late reply.Yes, oils take considerably more time to dry than other paints- mainly due to the medium being, well, oil.
One way to quicken the drying time is to spread that Raw Sienna onto a card with a cocktail stick (I use office filing cards), leave it for a while and than mix in your Burnt Sienna. The card absorbs a lot of the oil but obviously the longer it sits, the less 'flow' you'll have when mixing the two.
When painting metal or even resin models another old trick is to place them in an oven at a low peep once painted- but this won't be suitable for plastic kits.
Incidently, oil placed or mixed on these cards can be easily re-used if you put the card in your freezer.
Just to add having thought about this a bit more, perhaps you're using too much oil paint.
I tend to block in the basic colours using matt Humbrol enamels. Once dry, I then overpaint with oils but tend to then wipe off any excess. This leaves an oil-painted sheen other than a more thickly painted coat- often with the Humbrol shade showing through. Whilst wet, this sheen can be highlighted and shadowed with lighter and darker shades of the base oil colour.
When doing this DO NOT clean your brushes with turps or white spirit- only wipe them on kitchen paper or a rag between applications.
I tend to block in the basic colours using matt Humbrol enamels. Once dry, I then overpaint with oils but tend to then wipe off any excess. This leaves an oil-painted sheen other than a more thickly painted coat- often with the Humbrol shade showing through. Whilst wet, this sheen can be highlighted and shadowed with lighter and darker shades of the base oil colour.
When doing this DO NOT clean your brushes with turps or white spirit- only wipe them on kitchen paper or a rag between applications.
kenny Chim 4 said:
Just to add having thought about this a bit more, perhaps you're using too much oil paint.
I tend to block in the basic colours using matt Humbrol enamels. Once dry, I then overpaint with oils but tend to then wipe off any excess. This leaves an oil-painted sheen other than a more thickly painted coat- often with the Humbrol shade showing through. Whilst wet, this sheen can be highlighted and shadowed with lighter and darker shades of the base oil colour.
When doing this DO NOT clean your brushes with turps or white spirit- only wipe them on kitchen paper or a rag between applications.
Ta for that.I tend to block in the basic colours using matt Humbrol enamels. Once dry, I then overpaint with oils but tend to then wipe off any excess. This leaves an oil-painted sheen other than a more thickly painted coat- often with the Humbrol shade showing through. Whilst wet, this sheen can be highlighted and shadowed with lighter and darker shades of the base oil colour.
When doing this DO NOT clean your brushes with turps or white spirit- only wipe them on kitchen paper or a rag between applications.
Yes, I did start by using coffee filter papers to wick some of the oil away, but as you said it ruined the flow of the paint. I overcoated Tamiya "deck tan" with very thin streaky coats of oil paints to get the woodgrain effect. It worked, but as I said the lighter colour (raw Sienna) really takes ages to dry.
nick heppinstall said:
dr_gn said:
Prompted by this thread (and because I'm waiting for the oil paint to dry on the SE5a) I made a start on my Academy Thunderjet. I bought it for £4.99 purely to try out Alclad II, so it'll be straight OOB.
Fantastic ! Step by step guide to painting please !Thats exactly the same one I got for 4.99 too lol
I only have to do the anti glare on the top. As for painting it was quite simple really apart from masking the painted wheel wells. To be fair the decals we probably the worst bit.
One thing though, I used Vallejo Model Air Steel and then a coat of Future after 24 hrs. But for some reason the Future never quite felt dry and hard even after 2-3 days.
I only have to do the anti glare on the top. As for painting it was quite simple really apart from masking the painted wheel wells. To be fair the decals we probably the worst bit.
One thing though, I used Vallejo Model Air Steel and then a coat of Future after 24 hrs. But for some reason the Future never quite felt dry and hard even after 2-3 days.
The_Jackal said:
Thats exactly the same one I got for 4.99 too lol
I only have to do the anti glare on the top. As for painting it was quite simple really apart from masking the painted wheel wells. To be fair the decals we probably the worst bit.
One thing though, I used Vallejo Model Air Steel and then a coat of Future after 24 hrs. But for some reason the Future never quite felt dry and hard even after 2-3 days.
I've had Klear that doesn't dry for ages too.I only have to do the anti glare on the top. As for painting it was quite simple really apart from masking the painted wheel wells. To be fair the decals we probably the worst bit.
One thing though, I used Vallejo Model Air Steel and then a coat of Future after 24 hrs. But for some reason the Future never quite felt dry and hard even after 2-3 days.
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