5" gauge Stanier Duchess steam loco

5" gauge Stanier Duchess steam loco

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RDMcG

19,122 posts

207 months

Thursday 14th November 2013
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Dawg said:
Yes - I've seen the reports. When it's done I'll be making a trip over there to see it.
I think the biggest one of the lot is in the Ford Museum in Dearborn..

Dawg

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572 posts

174 months

Thursday 14th November 2013
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A little off-topic, but here's his 31/2" gauge Union Pacific Big Boy. I had to unfortunately sell it - chap down South is aiming to finish it...


perdu

4,884 posts

199 months

Thursday 14th November 2013
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That and the Duchess are beautiful pieces of work.

have an appreciative W O W

I am enjoying this thread

RichB

51,505 posts

284 months

Thursday 14th November 2013
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The contrast between Stanier's Coronation/Duchess loco and the Big Boy is a stark, one beautiful the other an overtly powerful machine grown almost grotesque. Truly the beauty and the beast!

Yertis

18,033 posts

266 months

Friday 15th November 2013
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Dawg said:
Yes - I've seen the reports. When it's done I'll be making a trip over there to see it.
As a little taster, they've already don the BogBoy's little brother, the Challenger.

Dawg

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572 posts

174 months

Friday 15th November 2013
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Yes - I've seen a DVD of the Challenger. It's still owned by Union Pacific..

Here's another loco; a 'Sweet Pea' which is considered an ideal 'starter' loco. I started it when I was 14 & built it up to rolling chassis. It suddenly became too difficult when making the cylinders and being 14/15 I just wanted to hang out with mates.. It stood for years like that..

Dad finished it in 2004 and ran it 2 or 3 times only - he hated it; never liked the narrow gauge locos and the unconventional firebox on this type

This has also been sold, partly funding the Duchess


drivin_me_nuts

17,949 posts

211 months

Friday 15th November 2013
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Dawg said:
A little off-topic, but here's his 31/2" gauge Union Pacific Big Boy. I had to unfortunately sell it - chap down South is aiming to finish it...

This is really a remarkable achievement as the complexity compared to the Duchess is massive. Seeing a large articulated locomotive of this type is one of my loco dreams.

For me, it's the ultimate in model loco 'bragging rights' wink !

Your father was a seriously talented man who must have had immense patience and tenacity.

Dawg

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572 posts

174 months

Friday 15th November 2013
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I get what your saying, but I don't know about it really being more complex than the Duchess. Ok, steam pipes to power moving chassis is the trickiest part, but what some don't realise is that the Duchess is a 4 cylinder loco - all the motion that you can see on either side powered by two cylinders is also in the middle; Two sets of motion powered by another two cylinders, slung between the frames. Each with it's own lubrication.. The LMS Royal Scots and GWR King class locos were the same - a good way of compacting a lot of power into a loco limited by Victorian loading gauges..

The big boy is also 4 cylinders on a bigger scale, just stretched out on two separate chassis. Extremely powerful locos that pulled mile long trains that could only be replaced by 4 diesel units...

Dawg

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572 posts

174 months

Friday 15th November 2013
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Litre of milk on top to give an idea of size!






It kills me that I had to sell it - I just didn't have the £15-20k spare that it'd cost for someone to scale down the works drawings and finish it - and it was starting to deteriorate in the garage. The boiler had not really been started properly and that is where a lot of the cost lay. If my Dad had completed the boiler, I might still have it..



Edited by Dawg on Friday 15th November 12:16

Bebee

4,679 posts

225 months

Friday 15th November 2013
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I lost my father this morning at 10:17am, I wish I had similar to remember him by.

perdu

4,884 posts

199 months

Friday 15th November 2013
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Bebee said:
I lost my father this morning at 10:17am, I wish I had similar to remember him by.
Condolences mate, I bet he knew you cared that much though

Ultimately dads do

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

248 months

Friday 15th November 2013
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Dawg said:
Yes - I've seen the reports. When it's done I'll be making a trip over there to see it.
Me too. I have seen the one at Cheyenne (UP's big depot) and the thing is absolutely enormous.

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

248 months

Friday 15th November 2013
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Bebee said:
I lost my father this morning at 10:17am, I wish I had similar to remember him by.
RIP, It's funny how the time gets burnt into your memory. My Dad died at 5.15, which brings a whole new view to my favourite Who song.

I'm lucky in that my dad left me the Fowler, Koppel, Twin Sister and a little 0-4-0. Just need the time to be able to show and use them.

Dawg

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572 posts

174 months

Friday 15th November 2013
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Bebee said:
I lost my father this morning at 10:17am, I wish I had similar to remember him by.
Really sorry to hear that Bebee. My condolences - Parents never leave us; we have all our memories. Take care fella.

RichB

51,505 posts

284 months

Friday 15th November 2013
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Dawg said:
It kills me that I had to sell it...
There is no doubt in my mind you made the right choice in keeping the Coronation, it's beautiful. Incidentally, and you will know this but others may not; Stanier and his father both worked for the GWR so some his design ideas came from Swindon practice. The Stars, Castles and Kings were all four cylinder locos but with inside valve gear either adding to the complexity or keeping the design clean depending on your point of view. Despite many people fawning over Gresley's streamlined A4s I find the GWR & LMS designs far more purposeful and only wish Swindon had gone on to build a pacific along the lines of the Princess or Coronations... Yes I know they built The Great Bear but that was a one off and quickly converted to a Castle biggrin

silverfoxcc

7,687 posts

145 months

Friday 15th November 2013
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Bebee

Thoughts with you and yours.

Been Dadless coming up for 27yrs now and still at 66!!! look around for advice, realising i have to pass it on to my son and now the grandson. however the memories are there along with some great pics i found recently.
Now i must get that LNER 4-6-0 finished

silverfoxcc

7,687 posts

145 months

Saturday 16th November 2013
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On biiiig models

Look at the cover of the current issue of Model Engineer.
a 7.25 gauge UP Centennial diesel. Its as long as a stretch limo!!!

richwig83

14,209 posts

138 months

Saturday 16th November 2013
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For a minute there... I thought someone had stolen your photo billy!!!

(hello... and i didnt realise you were on PH )

Dawg

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572 posts

174 months

Sunday 17th November 2013
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Ha! Yes mate! Been on for a while - in the bike section mainly smile

razor11

126 posts

249 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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For all you 'Chuffers' out there, this is my 7.25" Britannia. It is huuuuge. I could not resist it and sold my car to finance it (and then promptly went out and replaced the car as a necessity - learned that technique off my wife).

It used to reside, as shown, in 'our' conservatory, but the sheer size of it (blocks views into garden when seated) together with the consistent background aroma of coal and engine oil meant that it got relocated to the workshop. It's OK though, my two other 5" locos survive in the conservatory.

I had huge fun getting it from a packing case on the floor onto a hydraulic table, then over the conservatory threshold, only to have to remove it a few days later....on my own.