1:72 Tornado GR4, Dambusters70th Anniversary
Discussion
dr_gn said:
HoHoHo said:
Windscreen is on top of the nose - I masked some of the inside of it too Most of the cockpit is masked now, plus I added a handle out of some dowels; there is going to be a lot of messing about during painting, and I don't want to cover the thing in grease by handling it directly:
Seems to be OK now, sorry for any confusion caused by modern technology
Painted the jet exhaust / bucket area tonight:
And the internal colour of the windscreen frames:
Put the brass pitot tube on as well. Strange how I stopped noticing the nose geometry as other things distracted me. FWIW I think it looks quite a reasonable shape now. I'm still not sure whether to add the LRMTS window after completion, or mask it as it is. I'm currently erring towards removing it and adding it at the end. That view highlights how wrong the fit of the pod is...maybe I can worry about that for a while before moving on to somethign else
And the internal colour of the windscreen frames:
Put the brass pitot tube on as well. Strange how I stopped noticing the nose geometry as other things distracted me. FWIW I think it looks quite a reasonable shape now. I'm still not sure whether to add the LRMTS window after completion, or mask it as it is. I'm currently erring towards removing it and adding it at the end. That view highlights how wrong the fit of the pod is...maybe I can worry about that for a while before moving on to somethign else
Edited by dr_gn on Sunday 18th January 22:25
jamieduff1981 said:
I think the nose looks good. Do you have a reference photo handy for the pod? I've seen them plenty times but can't quite remember how they should look exactly.
I think it's a bit too wide at its widest point, so it partially wraps around the fuselage at that point. It's a resin part that can only fit in one place, so that's that, without a load of extra work. Preshaded the main bits tonight with german grey:
Overcoated with my own mix of light grey and white:
In reality it's more contrasty than in the photo. The plan is to now spray individual panels in lighter and darker shades as appropriate, and becasue the chances of me getting the contrast low enough is zero, I'll overspray again with base coat until I get it subtle enough. Then paint the nose, spine panels that are much darker, then the fin. It's too cold to do any more in the garage tonight so I'll leave it to dry tonight.
Overcoated with my own mix of light grey and white:
In reality it's more contrasty than in the photo. The plan is to now spray individual panels in lighter and darker shades as appropriate, and becasue the chances of me getting the contrast low enough is zero, I'll overspray again with base coat until I get it subtle enough. Then paint the nose, spine panels that are much darker, then the fin. It's too cold to do any more in the garage tonight so I'll leave it to dry tonight.
Does this work with brushing?
Sorry, following what you are doing and just wondering. Should try it on the next one though I suppose you have to gauge how much you want the effect. Looking at the pics I took at airshows last year it can different especially for the military vs non. Looks vs form I suppose?
Sorry, following what you are doing and just wondering. Should try it on the next one though I suppose you have to gauge how much you want the effect. Looking at the pics I took at airshows last year it can different especially for the military vs non. Looks vs form I suppose?
jmorgan said:
Does this work with brushing?
Sorry, following what you are doing and just wondering. Should try it on the next one though I suppose you have to gauge how much you want the effect. Looking at the pics I took at airshows last year it can different especially for the military vs non. Looks vs form I suppose?
I doubt very much it would work very well by brushing; you need to mist the overcoats on so that the dark lines just filter through. The effect may or may not be totally true to life, but it's a subtle way of adding interest to a plain scheme. If you compare it to the previous image after the first coat, I think it looks much better.Sorry, following what you are doing and just wondering. Should try it on the next one though I suppose you have to gauge how much you want the effect. Looking at the pics I took at airshows last year it can different especially for the military vs non. Looks vs form I suppose?
jmorgan said:
Does this work with brushing?
Without trying to hijack the thread - It can be done with brushing but you need to be very very good!Brush painted Spits
All worth a read but skip to page 16 where he starts brushing the camo on.
I've never seen that before (the Spitfire type preshading).
Another method would be to brush paint as normal, then instead of coating with Klear, apply some thinners to the panel lines and the area around them, and add a dark wash. The wash will creep slightly into the wetted region around the line, and you can dilute the effect as required by brushing thinners onto the appropriate area. You do usually get this effect to an extent when applying a wash, depending on how glossy the surface is. Never tried it but it might work.
Another method would be to brush paint as normal, then instead of coating with Klear, apply some thinners to the panel lines and the area around them, and add a dark wash. The wash will creep slightly into the wetted region around the line, and you can dilute the effect as required by brushing thinners onto the appropriate area. You do usually get this effect to an extent when applying a wash, depending on how glossy the surface is. Never tried it but it might work.
So I spent this evening masking various panels and spraying them slightly darker and lighter greys, plus toned down the preshading a bit further.
I removed most of the masking, including from the parts of the wings swept by the root seals. Turns out the contrast between all the greys I've used isn't really as much as I'd like. In this case I'll be kind to myself and call the effects "subtle"! Better than too much contrast I guess. I just want to get this one finished now...
Still needs the nose and the two spine panels spraying in darker grey, and of course the fin.
I removed most of the masking, including from the parts of the wings swept by the root seals. Turns out the contrast between all the greys I've used isn't really as much as I'd like. In this case I'll be kind to myself and call the effects "subtle"! Better than too much contrast I guess. I just want to get this one finished now...
Still needs the nose and the two spine panels spraying in darker grey, and of course the fin.
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