1:72 Tornado GR4, Dambusters70th Anniversary

1:72 Tornado GR4, Dambusters70th Anniversary

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dr_gn

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16,144 posts

184 months

Tuesday 10th February 2015
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Had a go at the wing seals tonight - another fiddly aspect of the Tornado. The ones in the kit only fit in the swept position, so there's not much choice but to make some to fit the open wings. I started by making some profiled plates out of plastic card:



Then printed out some lines on paper to represent the convolutions in the fabric:



Glued them to the plasticard inserts:



Sprayed so that the lines just show through:



And edge them with painted Tamiya tape to cover the gaps and make them a more realistic depth:



A blob of coloured pva to fill the small gap at the trailing edge and they will look OK, at least better than the originals.

Mutley

3,178 posts

259 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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Doc, I tried to load these onto BM for you, but couldn't get the mobile to talk to the forum. Is the canopy ok for you?



dr_gn

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Wednesday 11th February 2015
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Mutley said:
Doc, I tried to load these onto BM for you, but couldn't get the mobile to talk to the forum. Is the canopy ok for you?


Sorry, I can't see anything - broken link I think.

Mutley

3,178 posts

259 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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Hmmm, very odd. Maybe the phone

Mutley

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259 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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Hoping this works

dr_gn

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Wednesday 11th February 2015
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Mutley said:


Hoping this works
TBH it's pretty much the same as the ones I've already got. I think I might try polishing the flaws out of my original and making up the framing using plastic card. Thanks for your time anyway.

Skii

1,625 posts

191 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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Sand it smooth and polish it. Job done.

dr_gn

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Wednesday 11th February 2015
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Skii said:
Sand it smooth and polish it. Job done.
Yes, I'm resigned to trying that, as someone on BM suggested. Trouble is it means removing the hoop framing and re-making it.

perdu

4,884 posts

199 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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dr_gn said:
Skii said:
Sand it smooth and polish it. Job done.
Yes, I'm resigned to trying that, as someone on BM suggested. Trouble is it means removing the hoop framing and re-making it.
So why worry me lad, you will only make it much better anyway wink

You always do

Mutley

3,178 posts

259 months

Wednesday 11th February 2015
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Doc, sorry the canopy wasn't of help.

I am thinking of mounting my Tonka on a perspex pole to show it in flight (am getting adventurous already) before you weighted the nose (thats if you did) where was the centre of gravity?

dr_gn

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Wednesday 11th February 2015
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Mutley said:
Doc, sorry the canopy wasn't of help.

I am thinking of mounting my Tonka on a perspex pole to show it in flight (am getting adventurous already) before you weighted the nose (thats if you did) where was the centre of gravity?
Thanks for trying anyway - much appreciated.

In the end I didn't need to weight the nose. I think the resin cockpit did the job.

dr_gn

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Wednesday 11th February 2015
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Errr what have I started...


dr_gn

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Wednesday 11th February 2015
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So this one cracked during final polishing, not that it mattered; it was pretty badly crazed on top too. May have been due to me trying Brasso to polish it, or maybe I over stressed it while sanding?



The sanding removed the surface flaws, but the distortion remained pretty much unchanged from what I could see. One down, two to go, although I think the phrase "you can't polish a turd" might well apply to this nasty little part.

Anyway, at least I completed the wing seals by wicking some pre-coloured PVA into the remaining gaps around the wing:


ManOpener

12,467 posts

169 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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I think all that can possibly be said about the quality of this already has. I don't venture into this section much (I've just been keeping an eye on this thread really) but it's inspired me to up my craft knife, glue and green stuff for the first time in, oh, about 12 years, and build my own British Cold War hero (a Jaguar GR.1A). beer

dr_gn

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Thursday 12th February 2015
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ManOpener said:
I think all that can possibly be said about the quality of this already has. I don't venture into this section much (I've just been keeping an eye on this thread really) but it's inspired me to up my craft knife, glue and green stuff for the first time in, oh, about 12 years, and build my own British Cold War hero (a Jaguar GR.1A). beer
That's good to hear. Why not start a thread on it? Perdu is building a couple of Jaguars over on Britmodeller at the moment:

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topi...

I can't get on with Green Stuff putty, it seems porous and crumbly, and dries too fast, plus it can damage the plastic. These days I usually use Milliput which is water soluble and can be sculpted with a damp cloth or fingertip.

Good luck with it anyway.

4321go

638 posts

187 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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ManOpener said:
I think all that can possibly be said about the quality of this already has. I don't venture into this section much (I've just been keeping an eye on this thread really) but it's inspired me to up my craft knife, glue and green stuff for the first time in, oh, about 12 years, and build my own British Cold War hero (a Jaguar GR.1A). beer

A brief thread hijack and then back to lurking!

Having found this thread a month or so back, I've been lurking here and on Britmodeller for a while, browsing in awe! I've a house to rebuild (Again! We flooded a year ago today.), a kit car to restore and one million other things to do. But I too am inspired to dip into my meagre stash (not that it qualifies as a stash, having seen photos of such on Britmodeller!).



The Frogeye was bought in the very early '90s, to be built in BRG to reflect my very first car, 2905 AR, bought in '88. Anybody know where it is today?

The two 355s are to be built as my old Berlinetta. But the Berlinetta kit has the 348 chassis, whilst the GTS kit has the correct 355 chassis.

The old Merit kit is their Lotus XI. My rolling restoration is a Westfield Eleven. The Tamiya McLaren is a 1970 original, bought on fleabay a few years ago, not the recent re-release. Much too long a story for here, but another example of this kit had great sentimental value as a young child in the early seventies.

Now, which one first?

ecsrobin

17,079 posts

165 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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Off topic but is the mclaren the one with a motor?

dr_gn

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Thursday 12th February 2015
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4321go said:
ManOpener said:
I think all that can possibly be said about the quality of this already has. I don't venture into this section much (I've just been keeping an eye on this thread really) but it's inspired me to up my craft knife, glue and green stuff for the first time in, oh, about 12 years, and build my own British Cold War hero (a Jaguar GR.1A). beer

A brief thread hijack and then back to lurking!

Having found this thread a month or so back, I've been lurking here and on Britmodeller for a while, browsing in awe! I've a house to rebuild (Again! We flooded a year ago today.), a kit car to restore and one million other things to do. But I too am inspired to dip into my meagre stash (not that it qualifies as a stash, having seen photos of such on Britmodeller!).



The Frogeye was bought in the very early '90s, to be built in BRG to reflect my very first car, 2905 AR, bought in '88. Anybody know where it is today?

The two 355s are to be built as my old Berlinetta. But the Berlinetta kit has the 348 chassis, whilst the GTS kit has the correct 355 chassis.

The old Merit kit is their Lotus XI. My rolling restoration is a Westfield Eleven. The Tamiya McLaren is a 1970 original, bought on fleabay a few years ago, not the recent re-release. Much too long a story for here, but another example of this kit had great sentimental value as a young child in the early seventies.

Now, which one first?
I'd go with any of the Tamiya kits, they usually go together very well.

The Merit kits are really nice quality considering their age. I've got the Alfa Romeo to build, and it's a good canvas for a bit of extra detailing.

I built the Airfix Hi-Tech E-type when it first came out, and it was a nightmare.

4321go

638 posts

187 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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Sadly for the time being, my final line was more of a rhetorical question! It'll be a while longer before these get built.... But yes, I remember thinking when I bought it that the Frogeye looked like a poorly designed product. It's a re-boxing of a far-eastern kit. Can't remember whose.

The Macca has the motor, unlike the repros. My father (a young engineering grad) bought one for my uncle (his brother-in-law) for Christmas 1970. My uncle (notoriously incompetent with his hands) made an utter pigs ear of it (and it's very simple for a large-scale Tamiya). My father promised to help him put it straight when he returned from holiday; showing off his new son (me) to his parents in Kenya. Sadly, both of my parents were killed in a car crash whilst abroad! I was repatriated and raised by my maternal grandparents and said uncle. When I was about three, rummaging in my uncles wardrobe (he still lived at home with his parents) I found it and undertook my own attempt at remodelling! One day I'll build this one for him. Hopefully I'll make a better fist of it than my three-year old self. Still, even that was better than his twenty-year old self!!!

Now, enough of this. Back to your build.....

Edited by 4321go on Thursday 12th February 17:59

dr_gn

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184 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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Thats quite a story, sorry about your parents.

I think the Frogeye and E Type (plus some others IIRC) were Gunze Sangyo kits reboxed by airfix with the addition of some fairly dire white metal and photo etch parts chucked in with seemingly little though as to how everything was meant to fit together. They werent cheap either.