1:72 Tornado GR4, Dambusters70th Anniversary

1:72 Tornado GR4, Dambusters70th Anniversary

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dr_gn

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Tuesday 17th March 2015
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mcdjl said:
It looks good. You get the back ground right with that and I reckon you could make it hard to spot the difference between the model and real thing.
Ta, that's something I wanted to try at some point: Use a high resolution photo of an airfield or whatever and photograph a model in front of it. Trouble is I don't know where to get high resolution images of suitable backgrounds.

mcdjl

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195 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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dr_gn said:
Ta, that's something I wanted to try at some point: Use a high resolution photo of an airfield or whatever and photograph a model in front of it. Trouble is I don't know where to get high resolution images of suitable backgrounds.
You could always try asking in the cool photo graphs of planes thread. One of them might have a suitable airfield shot of some bunkers/ hangers. You might want them slightly fuzzy to get depth of focus sort of thing, or just use your garden as a back ground out of focus greenery beside the hangers.

dr_gn

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Tuesday 17th March 2015
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mcdjl said:
dr_gn said:
Ta, that's something I wanted to try at some point: Use a high resolution photo of an airfield or whatever and photograph a model in front of it. Trouble is I don't know where to get high resolution images of suitable backgrounds.
You could always try asking in the cool photo graphs of planes thread. One of them might have a suitable airfield shot of some bunkers/ hangers. You might want them slightly fuzzy to get depth of focus sort of thing, or just use your garden as a back ground out of focus greenery beside the hangers.
I think the background would be out of focus to the right degree at the focal lengths and apertures I use, when the photo was sharp, but placed a couple of feed behind the model. It'll be a case of experimenting.

Boatbuoy

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Tuesday 17th March 2015
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dr_gn said:
I was hoping to get them to hold hands, but the arms wouldn't reach.
Ahhh, so they are RN crew on exchange? wink

dr_gn

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Wednesday 18th March 2015
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Made a start on the canopy furniture while the Pla-Paper arrives for the framing. A few air pipes and tubes, and a cutting template for the lower frames. Inner framing/mirrors are part of the Aires cockpit set:


BertieWooster

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164 months

Thursday 19th March 2015
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dr_gn said:
Ta, that's something I wanted to try at some point: Use a high resolution photo of an airfield or whatever and photograph a model in front of it. Trouble is I don't know where to get high resolution images of suitable backgrounds.
The MOD's Defence Imagery site might have some decent high resolution photos you could use.

Mutley

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259 months

Thursday 19th March 2015
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BertieWooster said:
dr_gn said:
Ta, that's something I wanted to try at some point: Use a high resolution photo of an airfield or whatever and photograph a model in front of it. Trouble is I don't know where to get high resolution images of suitable backgrounds.
The MOD's Defence Imagery site might have some decent high resolution photos you could use.
Great link, thanks for sharing.

Doc, perhaps the top ones on page 8? (there are 358 pages!)


dr_gn

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Thursday 19th March 2015
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Thanks very much for the link. I've not looked too closely, but which page - Stock images or Downloadable images? Neither page 8's look like airfield backdrops, but the page numbers might be different depending on how you're viewing them I guess?

Mutley

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Thursday 19th March 2015
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dr_gn said:
Thanks very much for the link. I've not looked too closely, but which page - Stock images or Downloadable images? Neither page 8's look like airfield backdrops, but the page numbers might be different depending on how you're viewing them I guess?
I was looking at Stock images, in particularly this one, Shelter as a backdrop?

Edited by Mutley on Thursday 19th March 13:23

Mutley

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Thursday 19th March 2015
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How about this?

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dr_gn

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Thursday 19th March 2015
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Thanks Mutley, I'll try them and see what's what. The link in your post doesn't work for me.

Mutley

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Thursday 19th March 2015
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dr_gn said:
Thanks Mutley, I'll try them and see what's what. The link in your post doesn't work for me.
Not sure what happened to the link, I'll have a play with it.
The images above are from Lossiemouth, and there are a few Scampton ones on search too. Hope they help

BertieWooster

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164 months

Thursday 19th March 2015
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There are a few 617 Sqn photos taken during an exercise in the Middle East. Here's one of them:



Link here.

dr_gn

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Thursday 19th March 2015
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Thanks, but I don't think links work from that website.

dr_gn

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Thursday 19th March 2015
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I went with the Tamiya Pla-Paper suggestion for the frames. I got the 0.1mm version, and it looks spot-on in terms of thickness for framing, plus the riveting tool works well on it (I think the middle hoop should have 2 rows of rivets on it). Here are a few test strips taped onto a spare canopy to get a feel for how to work with it. The hoops are partially glued with Formula 560 as an experiment:


dr_gn

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Friday 20th March 2015
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The middle frame should have double rivets. I found the best way to get closely spaced lines with matched rivets was to make loads of pairs of lines and pick the ones that matched the best. About every fifth set seemed to be in the right ballpark. Sometimes it's better to let probablility work for you:



I've painted all the inner faces black. The outer faces will be painted grey before attaching to the canopy:



I painted the outside of some of the frames black by mistake, but at least it confirms that the rivets should look OK:


dr_gn

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Saturday 21st March 2015
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Outer framing primed. I think I'll roll the strips with a scalpel handle to reduce the rivet dimples slightly before fixing:



Also made a start on the rear cockpit frame handles. They are a bit long at present, and need a bit of rounding with a ocat of PVA. I think they are there for the navigator to brace from, and have buttons on them for chaff or flares. Not 100% sure about that though.


Ian Lancs

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166 months

Saturday 21st March 2015
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dr_gn said:
Also made a start on the rear cockpit frame handles. They are a bit long at present, and need a bit of rounding with a ocat of PVA. I think they are there for the navigator to brace from, and have buttons on them for chaff or flares. Not 100% sure about that though.
Yup - active grab handles.

dr_gn

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Monday 23rd March 2015
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I had to add some flare to the lower frames, so I marked a score line with tape, scoerd and bent outwards:





The lower frames were too flat, so I tried to give them a bit of concave-ness by drawing a scalpel handle along them. It kind of worked, but it's difficult to tell. Dipped in Klear, there is at least not quite as much distortion as the orginal:







I'm still undecided about this. I have a spare canopy, which, after a bit of polishing might look better than this home made one. I'm pissed off with the whole thing to be honest.

mcdjl

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195 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Are you looking at one thing and posting photos of another? That looks fairly damn awesome.....unless you're just fishing for compliments?