Tamiya 1:12 McLaren MP4/6 Rebuild/Upgrade
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Had a trip to the Donington collection today. They didn't have an MP4/6, but did have a 4/5B and a 4/7, both of which had similar carbon types in the areas I'm interested in. Looks like the wing endplates are more textured than a visible weave:
I guess the texture could be represented by twill weave carbon decal, toned down a bit, but looking at the cars from a 'scale' distance, all you see in these areas is matt or satin black.
Vortex generators are more defined in terms of weave:
...and the front wing rubbing strips are wood:
They've gone to extreme lenghts to change the Marlboro cheverons to something different IIRC on all the McLarens - these are infil stickers:
Yet the old BRM is unchanged:
Presumably it's a McLaren thing.
I guess the texture could be represented by twill weave carbon decal, toned down a bit, but looking at the cars from a 'scale' distance, all you see in these areas is matt or satin black.
Vortex generators are more defined in terms of weave:
...and the front wing rubbing strips are wood:
They've gone to extreme lenghts to change the Marlboro cheverons to something different IIRC on all the McLarens - these are infil stickers:
Yet the old BRM is unchanged:
Presumably it's a McLaren thing.
EagleMoto4-2 said:
Does this mean we will see some more progress soon?!
Did you take a piece of the model bodywork along to compare the Marlboro red?
I nearly took some bodywork to compare, but then thought better of it. Firstly, the effects of fading would make any match irrelevant, and secondly I wouldn't re-paint it again anyway!Did you take a piece of the model bodywork along to compare the Marlboro red?
Strange place the Donington collection. It's like a morgue for F1 cars, absolutely no imagination to the display, just rows of cars interspersed with loads of nondescript(and presumably defunct) Formula Classic cars.
Bizzarrely, the first couple of halls are dedicated to tanks and military vehicles. The owner, Kevin Wheatcroft apparently has the largest collection of Nazi memorabilia in the world:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/24/the-...
Bizzarrely, the first couple of halls are dedicated to tanks and military vehicles. The owner, Kevin Wheatcroft apparently has the largest collection of Nazi memorabilia in the world:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/24/the-...
dr_gn said:
Strange place the Donington collection. It's like a morgue for F1 cars, absolutely no imagination to the display, just rows of cars interspersed with loads of nondescript(and presumably defunct) Formula Classic cars.
Bizzarrely, the first couple of halls are dedicated to tanks and military vehicles. The owner, Kevin Wheatcroft apparently has the largest collection of Nazi memorabilia in the world:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/24/the-...
It is a real shame. I don't think that Kevin has much interest in the old cars himself and is fully wrapped up in his tanks and so on. At least though he has been good enough to underwrite the reopening of the track and has not seemingly taken advantage of the increase in value of the collection to cash in and split (they may have sold the odd one or two, i don't know, but certainly have not dumped the lot).Bizzarrely, the first couple of halls are dedicated to tanks and military vehicles. The owner, Kevin Wheatcroft apparently has the largest collection of Nazi memorabilia in the world:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/24/the-...
SOmetimes though i find that these sorts of places are so much more interesting for the lack to glitz and razzamatazz.
6 or 7 years ago we went to Poznan on a long weekend and in a corner of one of the large subways need the train station we fell upon a car museum with about as much floor space as a tennis court. Crammed full of all sorts of oddities and so on with little or no attempt to explain what each was was actually quite liberating. You found that you were looking at the cars and the detail, not just glancing and then reading the board before on to the next.
dr_gn said:
EagleMoto4-2 said:
During your visit to Donnignton, you didn't happen to spy a Ferrari 312t5 there did you?
Yep:EagleMoto4-2 said:
dr_gn said:
Thanks Doc, I feel a need to make a visit now! Recently bought one of those Haynes manuals on the 312T Ferrari cars. In it is the history of all the chassis produced. Its interesting to note that Ferrari didnt make that many during each years campaign, and with the T5 in early 1980 the first ones were actually modified T4's. That one in your picture was the one Villeneuve crashed at the entry to Tosa, on the bend that now bears his name at the Imola circuit. Even though it was ripped in two it was rebuilt.You could call the museum and ask if you could get a bit closer, although when I called to ask re. the McLaren, the person I spoke to couldn't have been less helpful. Turned out they didn't have an MP4/6 anyway, but luckily the mp4/7 was at the end of a row, and unlike the Ferrari there was access along the side.
Fortunately when I went today the barrier wasnt there and was able to get close enough to touch the front wing. Therefore was able to get some good low down shots from the front of the car.
Like you say Doc, the McLaren end plates from a distance look untextured and smooth in a matt/semi-gloss black finish. So in scale it would probably look how you had them painted originally!
Disappointed they dont have the wrecked car that Purley crashed at Silverstone.
Like you say Doc, the McLaren end plates from a distance look untextured and smooth in a matt/semi-gloss black finish. So in scale it would probably look how you had them painted originally!
Disappointed they dont have the wrecked car that Purley crashed at Silverstone.
EagleMoto4-2 said:
Disappointed they dont have the wrecked car that Purley crashed at Silverstone.
Wasn't it restored a couple of years back using the second chassis as reference, both cars were at Goodwood either last year or the year before.Edit: Found a pic I took of them together.
Sorry for the hijack GN, back to the MP4/6!
Edited by 72twink on Monday 22 August 00:14
72twink said:
Wasn't it restored a couple of years back using the second chassis as reference, both cars were at Goodwood either last year or the year before.
Edit: Found a pic I took of them together.
Sorry for the hijack GN, back to the MP4/6!
Both were running at the Silverstone Classic last yearEdit: Found a pic I took of them together.
Sorry for the hijack GN, back to the MP4/6!
Edited by 72twink on Monday 22 August 00:14
Mutley said:
72twink said:
Both were running at the Silverstone Classic last yeardr_gn said:
Had a trip to the Donington collection today. They didn't have an MP4/6, but did have a 4/5B and a 4/7, both of which had similar carbon types in the areas I'm interested in. Looks like the wing endplates are more textured than a visible weave:
That's the effect of a couple of plies of carbon vacuumed over Nomex core. F1 parts still suffer with that nowadays but only on internal parts that aren't aero wetted surfaces. Composite Guru said:
dr_gn said:
That's the effect of a couple of plies of carbon vacuumed over Nomex core. F1 parts still suffer with that nowadays but only on internal parts that aren't aero wetted surfaces. dr_gn said:
Composite Guru said:
dr_gn said:
That's the effect of a couple of plies of carbon vacuumed over Nomex core. F1 parts still suffer with that nowadays but only on internal parts that aren't aero wetted surfaces. Gassing Station | Scale Models | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff