Tamiya 1:12 McLaren MP4/6 Rebuild/Upgrade

Tamiya 1:12 McLaren MP4/6 Rebuild/Upgrade

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dr_gn

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16,163 posts

184 months

Sunday 27th December 2020
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Thanks both!

So enough’s enough. Today come what may I wanted to do something to move this millstone forward a bit. This is where I left the modified rear rockers, with the unpainted, scratch built bits. I hesitate to say “corrected”, but they are far closer to reality than the kit/Top Studio parts:



So once the relevant bits were painted and satin coated, assembly was pretty straightforward. Springs are too thin, but easily fixed later if I can source some more realistic items:











Then on to the gearbox casings, which I fitted with PVA - just in case...



I ended up getting some Top Studio brass fasteners for the suspension brackets - I think the real ones may have had a gold coating:



You can cut them to whatever size you need:



Here they are fitted:



So far so good. Next job will be to give the other gearbox and suspension mounts a coat of Mr.Hobby Aqueous satin, and get the rest of the gearbox assembled.

Edited by dr_gn on Sunday 27th December 16:20

dr_gn

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184 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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Roll bar components:



Brackets Araldited to the gearbox casing, and brass bolt heads added:



And the rocker assemblies fitted, and the a.r.b. links temporarily pinned in place:



Might lighten the links a bit to give some contrast to the bar.

dr_gn

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184 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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Added some fasteners to the previously hollowed-out stiffener fabrication:



Currently grappling with satin varnish issues - again.

ChevronB19

5,783 posts

163 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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I tend to build 1:48 planes due to general clumsiness, and wish I had the skill (and patience) to do something like this, but I have to ask: how on Earth to you glue things that small without leaving either big smudges of glue everywhere or getting an insufficient bond?

dr_gn

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184 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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ChevronB19 said:
I tend to build 1:48 planes due to general clumsiness, and wish I had the skill (and patience) to do something like this, but I have to ask: how on Earth to you glue things that small without leaving either big smudges of glue everywhere or getting an insufficient bond?
It depends on the part. For the black triangular a.r.b. plate to gearbox join I used Araldite, because it needs to be fairly rigid. I apply it with fuse wire. It’s wasteful because there’s a limit to how much you can mix accurately in tiny amounts.

For the non-structural and smaller stuff like bolts and bolt heads I invariably use PVA. It’s easily strong enough for small parts, can be diluted with water to wick into places you can’t accurately get to, and of course if you use the right type, it can be re-dissolved if you screw up. The other big advantage is that it’s pretty much invisible once set.

dr_gn

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184 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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Did a bit more work on the a.r.b. Links, specifically the bolts. I’m using RB Motion 0.025” nut and bolt studs with washers:



No idea how they make them, but they are fully formed hexagons, just on a minute scale:



Here’s one bolt trimmed to length and test fitted to the rocker bracket:


NotNormal

2,359 posts

214 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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In awe every time I see the updates on this thread. Amazing skill and keep up the good work smile

dr_gn

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184 months

Friday 1st January 2021
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NotNormal said:
In awe every time I see the updates on this thread. Amazing skill and keep up the good work smile
Thanks for the encouragement! This one is taking its toll - nothing seems to fit without some fettling, and fettling invariably means damaging paint somewhere or other. It’s a viscious circle. and experimenting with matt/satin varnish is a pain.

Anyway, I decided to test assemble what I’ve got so far, just to make sure it fits before going any further. The modified rocker geometry looks way better than the original kit, and the a.r.b. mounts and linkages are now pretty accurate:









I kind of wish I’d not satined the fasteners - they look a bit dull now, then again previously they were a bit too bling. Anyway, it is what it is.

Still needs all the wiring, hoses and anodised fittings, and the gold coloured suspension arm bolts. Before that though, the upper wishbones need their camber shims dealing with.

matc

4,714 posts

207 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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It looks stunning; will be a shame to cover it with a body! Keep the updates coming - may admiration for your patience and craftsmanship is huge!

dr_gn

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184 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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matc said:
It looks stunning; will be a shame to cover it with a body! Keep the updates coming - may admiration for your patience and craftsmanship is huge!
Too kind - thanks! This is the chassis version which won't have the body on at all. I've got my original model, which I am re-building as "kerbside". They will be displayed together on a base, along with my Senna and Berger autographs. The FW14B and Ferrari 641 will just be single chassis with the body displayed alongside though. That's if I have enough years left to complete them.

BawlBag

208 posts

40 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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Incredible effort, may I ask what ‘kerbside’ actually means ?

dr_gn

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184 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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BawlBag said:
Incredible effort, may I ask what ‘kerbside’ actually means ?
It just means how an everyday car looks when parked at the kerb - all bodywork in place, bonnet closed, no mechanical details visible.

BawlBag

208 posts

40 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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Or in this case pitside 😁

tyrrell

1,670 posts

208 months

Thursday 7th January 2021
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Just Brilliant as always.

robemcdonald

8,790 posts

196 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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I came across the pictures on the link below and immediately thought of this build.
https://www.ultimatecarpage.com/img/McLaren-MP4-6-...
You have probably seen them before, but if hope they provide a useful reference.

dr_gn

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184 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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robemcdonald said:
I came across the pictures on the link below and immediately thought of this build.
https://www.ultimatecarpage.com/img/McLaren-MP4-6-...
You have probably seen them before, but if hope they provide a useful reference.
Thanks for that. Yes I've got that bookmarked already. There are some useful references, but some of the engine bay and tub hardware is slightly different from back in the day. I think the images are from the Goodwood FoS fairly recently.

robemcdonald

8,790 posts

196 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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dr_gn said:
robemcdonald said:
I came across the pictures on the link below and immediately thought of this build.
https://www.ultimatecarpage.com/img/McLaren-MP4-6-...
You have probably seen them before, but if hope they provide a useful reference.
Thanks for that. Yes I've got that bookmarked already. There are some useful references, but some of the engine bay and tub hardware is slightly different from back in the day. I think the images are from the Goodwood FoS fairly recently.
Some of the "wear and tear" looks quite interesting; the ghosting of the Marlboro logo on the front of the tub. quite a good view on some of the texture as well.

Bobkshea

1 posts

15 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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Long time looker first time poster…
Wondering what happened to Doc’s amazing build? Is the big fella just back to work post lockdowns?
I recently jumped on the exact model and TS full detail kit… hope to start soon!

dr_gn

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184 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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Bobkshea said:
Long time looker first time poster…
Wondering what happened to Doc’s amazing build? Is the big fella just back to work post lockdowns?
I recently jumped on the exact model and TS full detail kit… hope to start soon!
Oh no I’d forgotten about that one…

I got stuck on the rear anti-roll bar not looking right, and also not being sure how to represent the male-mould tub.

The resin printer will solve the first issue, but the second still puzzles me.

ajprice

27,485 posts

196 months

Thursday 2nd February 2023
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It's a 4/4 but this video might be useful (if you haven't watched it already hehe )