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RichB said:
Nice and I agree, there's not enough railway stuff here.
In response to RichB I've added a couple of pics up of a couple of my Railway projects...Frampton
Frampton - 4mm Scale P4 18.83 Challenge Layout. Originally constructed for the Scalefour 1883 challenge the Frampton is now some 11years old but still remains reliable. This has been exhibited numerous times, chucked in the back of the car put in the loft, got back out again and after a clean up, up and running in 5mins. Small enough to operate off a desktop if required. Running on handbuilt track, rolling stock is a mix of proprietary models converted to run on P4 track, kit built or scratchbuilt.
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|http://thumbsnap.com/uqZZFjv6[/url]Swedish 891mm Narrow Gauge - 1/35 scale
A long term project to construct a large scale representation of Swedish 891mm narrow gauge. 1/35 is not considered a "standard" railway scale however luck would have it that at 1/35 scale the track gauge equates exactly to 1 inch, at 8.71mm/ft it enables the use of wheels from the smaller 7mm O Gauge scale for the smaller wheels used on the 891mm rolling stock.
Z4p Deutz powered loco
Scratchbuilt from mainly brass, plasticard and aluminium.
Gp Covered Van
Scratch built from Plywood, Plasticard and Brass
Op Open Wagon
Scratch built from mainly Plasticard and Brass
On the workbench - Ruston LBU (KB Scale Kit) Not a great image and in need of finishing!
Cheers 
That layout itself is considered small at no more than 5' x 2' in dimension. The layout was initially built to compete in the Scalefour Society 1883 challenge (Scalefour (P4) being the gauge used - Dead Scale) in an attempt to promote the society and encourage members to build.
The Models are 4mm scale to foot which is 1/76 Scale IIRC? By no means not the smallest scale but essentially the same physical size as a OO loco or stock in Antics.
That layout itself is considered small at no more than 5' x 2' in dimension. The layout was initially built to compete in the Scalefour Society 1883 challenge (Scalefour (P4) being the gauge used - Dead Scale) in an attempt to promote the society and encourage members to build.
The Models are 4mm scale to foot which is 1/76 Scale IIRC? By no means not the smallest scale but essentially the same physical size as a OO loco or stock in Antics.
BristolRich said:
Found some pics of the 33..for some reason somewhat elusive...
Wow love it.I do have a soft spot for the 33. Think it because my local heritage line has 2. I did have an OO 33 myself but recently sold it on. Just a Lima model but a nice thing for what its worth.
Out of interest, what is that 33 based on? Or is it scratch/kit built? The weathering and detail look fantastic regardless.
The 33 is one of the original early release Heljan Class 33 models.
On its release it received some criticsm for the shape of the cab roof profile however the quality of the model is such that you can ignore some of its shortcomings. The models have over the years been updated to address the issues and I belive another run is due soon.
The model itself is supplied in the later BR "Sultan" livery, however I chose to back date it to what you see in the images above - lack of Orange cantrail stripes and the incorrectly applied BR logo it ran with for a number of months. The only other additions are the etched name plates and swapping the original supplied wheels with P4 ones. Everthing else bar weathering is how it is supplied...
On its release it received some criticsm for the shape of the cab roof profile however the quality of the model is such that you can ignore some of its shortcomings. The models have over the years been updated to address the issues and I belive another run is due soon.
The model itself is supplied in the later BR "Sultan" livery, however I chose to back date it to what you see in the images above - lack of Orange cantrail stripes and the incorrectly applied BR logo it ran with for a number of months. The only other additions are the etched name plates and swapping the original supplied wheels with P4 ones. Everthing else bar weathering is how it is supplied...
BristolRich said:
The 33 is one of the original early release Heljan Class 33 models.
On its release it received some criticsm for the shape of the cab roof profile however the quality of the model is such that you can ignore some of its shortcomings. The models have over the years been updated to address the issues and I belive another run is due soon.
The model itself is supplied in the later BR "Sultan" livery, however I chose to back date it to what you see in the images above - lack of Orange cantrail stripes and the incorrectly applied BR logo it ran with for a number of months. The only other additions are the etched name plates and swapping the original supplied wheels with P4 ones. Everthing else bar weathering is how it is supplied...
The Heljan models are supposed to be great, and the price tag reflects that. The Lima I had wasn't a bad model at all really. Not the most accurate or detailed but still nice all the same. Hornby did a Railroad version of the 33 based on the Lima tooling which I would like to own (mainly for the much better motor and bogies) but they never made it in the BR blue livery. I've often wondered if the Lima body would fit the Hornby railroad chassis, or even if the Hornby bogies would fit the Lima chassis without too much work On its release it received some criticsm for the shape of the cab roof profile however the quality of the model is such that you can ignore some of its shortcomings. The models have over the years been updated to address the issues and I belive another run is due soon.
The model itself is supplied in the later BR "Sultan" livery, however I chose to back date it to what you see in the images above - lack of Orange cantrail stripes and the incorrectly applied BR logo it ran with for a number of months. The only other additions are the etched name plates and swapping the original supplied wheels with P4 ones. Everthing else bar weathering is how it is supplied...
By the time I've investigated all that, I may as well just buy the Heljan
MysteryLemon said:
The Heljan models are supposed to be great, and the price tag reflects that. The Lima I had wasn't a bad model at all really. Not the most accurate or detailed but still nice all the same. Hornby did a Railroad version of the 33 based on the Lima tooling which I would like to own (mainly for the much better motor and bogies) but they never made it in the BR blue livery. I've often wondered if the Lima body would fit the Hornby railroad chassis, or even if the Hornby bogies would fit the Lima chassis without too much work
By the time I've investigated all that, I may as well just buy the Heljan
On comparison the price of the Heljan loco isnt much more than what you would pay from the other contenders. Once the initial surge has peaked, keeping an eye on the box shifter type outlets you tend to find they have the odd model going up at reduced price. I dont think I paid anymore than £55 for the 33. Its just a case of keeping an eye out.By the time I've investigated all that, I may as well just buy the Heljan
In theory the body should fit the Hornby Railroad tooling. The best thing to do is compare your body with the data sheet here and look at the mounting points to see if they are comparable.
BristolRich said:
...I dont think I paid anymore than £55 for the 33. Its just a case of keeping an eye out..
But you've put a lot of work into putting on the P18 running gear surely? Some of those pictures are fantastic, especially the B&W ones. p.s. I've always wondered, how do you keep the dust of these layout? When you say "quick clean up" you can't exactly wipe off the dust can you!
RichB said:
ut you've put a lot of work into putting on the P18 running gear surely? Some of those pictures are fantastic, especially the B&W ones.
p.s. I've always wondered, how do you keep the dust of these layout? When you say "quick clean up" you can't exactly wipe off the dust can you!
"Most" proprietary locos are easily converted. Wheels can be obtained from numerous suppliers online (circa £8-£15 depending on loco size) and it is simply a case of removing the supplied axles, swapping the gear to the new axle, add new wheels, re gauge and put back in. The class 08 was the most difficult because of the outside cranks. These wheel sets can be obtained pre-quatered so you don't have the faff in trying to get that right...obtaining the wheels took time because these are made as a sideline to their main business but well worth the wait and simply drop in.p.s. I've always wondered, how do you keep the dust of these layout? When you say "quick clean up" you can't exactly wipe off the dust can you!
The layout splits in two halfs and is stored in the loft in the garage. I usually drape cut open bin bags over the top but found that spiders still got in so from now on its simply stored inside the bags themselves. Cleaning and dusting is done with a small hand held vacuum and small paintbrush.
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