Airfix Hurricane 1/24
Discussion
Bit more progress but I clearly need to work on my fine detail.....
The wheel wells need a little rub down at the rear
Graham Hill looking comfortable
Shame the top of the engine will be covered forever, it's going to hang in Sammy's room so no need to leave it loose. I will however not glue to side cowels so I'll be able to have a look from time to time
Now a quick question....
What's the best way to mask and then cut the canopy, is it simply mask properly, cut carefully and lots of practice?
The wheel wells need a little rub down at the rear
Graham Hill looking comfortable
Shame the top of the engine will be covered forever, it's going to hang in Sammy's room so no need to leave it loose. I will however not glue to side cowels so I'll be able to have a look from time to time
Now a quick question....
What's the best way to mask and then cut the canopy, is it simply mask properly, cut carefully and lots of practice?
If you mean apply masking tape to the transparency, then cutting along the frames with a scalpel, I'd advise simply masking accurately, and not cutting at all. If you cut in slightly the wrong place, or the blade wanders, you're screwed.
I do it by masking the edges first with thin strips, then filling in the middle with a mosaic of tape. If you chamfer the ends of the thin strips, you can get it perfect, even at 1:72. This is how I did my Defiant turret:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
It should be very easy at 1:24, especially on a Hurricane.
I do it by masking the edges first with thin strips, then filling in the middle with a mosaic of tape. If you chamfer the ends of the thin strips, you can get it perfect, even at 1:72. This is how I did my Defiant turret:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
It should be very easy at 1:24, especially on a Hurricane.
dr_gn said:
If you mean apply masking tape to the transparency, then cutting along the frames with a scalpel, I'd advise simply masking accurately, and not cutting at all. If you cut in slightly the wrong place, or the blade wanders, you're screwed.
I do it by masking the edges first with thin strips, then filling in the middle with a mosaic of tape. If you chamfer the ends of the thin strips, you can get it perfect, even at 1:72. This is how I did my Defiant turret:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
It should be very easy at 1:24, especially on a Hurricane.
I do and thanks that's very helpful.I do it by masking the edges first with thin strips, then filling in the middle with a mosaic of tape. If you chamfer the ends of the thin strips, you can get it perfect, even at 1:72. This is how I did my Defiant turret:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
It should be very easy at 1:24, especially on a Hurricane.
I'm now off to Barcelona so will have to wait to have a go - by the way I went to the prototype museum in Hamburg, good way to spend a couple of hours, thanks for the tip
Some more progress and it's moving fast now!
I then applied a dark earth to the entire top of the aircraft
Then using blutack marked the areas to be painted dark green
One side done (didn't have enough blutack to complete the exercise in one go!)
And all done
I'm guessing I'll attached the undercarriage and then apply a coat of klear, decals on and then more klear, then weather?
Anyway I'm really enjoying this and have learnt so much during the build
I then applied a dark earth to the entire top of the aircraft
Then using blutack marked the areas to be painted dark green
One side done (didn't have enough blutack to complete the exercise in one go!)
And all done
I'm guessing I'll attached the undercarriage and then apply a coat of klear, decals on and then more klear, then weather?
Anyway I'm really enjoying this and have learnt so much during the build
dr_gn said:
Might be a bad time to ask, but are you sure those colours are right? Doesn't look enough contrast to me - maybe the brown is a bit too dark?
Ah, good question.Vallejo suggest 'dark earth' for WWII too panels which is the colour I used but granted it does seem a touch dark......
It's certainly not too late to play around with the colours, have I mucked up?
It's a minefield. I went with colours from a model Id seen that looked a good match to me, and they were Vallejo Green Brown and Vallejo Reflective Green. I've used these on all my early ww2 RAF models and nobody whose seen them has commented. Due to the number of 'experts' out there, I assume that means thy aren't far off. At the end of the day yours might be right and it's a trick of the light. I just noticed the painting plan next to your model in the image, and that brown is nearer to what I use.
The photo was in my man cave above the garage with my red heater on which doesn't help.
I've had another look this morning and it's definitely more brown than sand (as you suggest comparing it to the painting guide G) but doesn't look too bad.
I suspect once I finish, decal and hang in Sammy's room the colour difference will be long forgotten however yet another learning curve. I did some research prior to painting and noticed there's a million different colours to paint anything! I did also think Vallejo might know their paint from their paint!
One quick question......
I've used Dr_Gn's suggested method of canopy taping using think strips etc. and on the whole for a first attempt it went very well however there's a slight trace of grey primer between the clear plastic and green paint - where did I go wrong?
It's I my slight however noticeable
Edited to add I really have no idea what my last sentence is saying I know we write replies on a iPhones etc. when we're out and about but I really should read my replies before I hit submit
I've had another look this morning and it's definitely more brown than sand (as you suggest comparing it to the painting guide G) but doesn't look too bad.
I suspect once I finish, decal and hang in Sammy's room the colour difference will be long forgotten however yet another learning curve. I did some research prior to painting and noticed there's a million different colours to paint anything! I did also think Vallejo might know their paint from their paint!
One quick question......
I've used Dr_Gn's suggested method of canopy taping using think strips etc. and on the whole for a first attempt it went very well however there's a slight trace of grey primer between the clear plastic and green paint - where did I go wrong?
It's I my slight however noticeable
Edited to add I really have no idea what my last sentence is saying I know we write replies on a iPhones etc. when we're out and about but I really should read my replies before I hit submit
Edited by HoHoHo on Thursday 3rd December 14:04
HoHoHo said:
The photo was in my man cave above the garage with my red heater on which doesn't help.
I've had another look this morning and it's definitely more brown than sand (as you suggest comparing it to the painting guide G) but doesn't look too bad.
I suspect once I finish, decal and hang in Sammy's room the colour difference will be long forgotten however yet another learning curve. I did some research prior to painting and noticed there's a million different colours to paint anything! I did also think Vallejo might know their paint from their paint!
One quick question......
I've used Dr_Gn's suggested method of canopy taping using think strips etc. and on the whole for a first attempt it went very well however there's a slight trace of grey primer between the clear plastic and green paint - where did I go wrong?
It's I my slight however noticeable
I don't think you've done much wrong, it's just the edge of the primer layer showing. It might have been worsened if the paint has "torn" along the masked edge. You can get around this by running a new scalpel blade around each masked panel before removing the tape.I've had another look this morning and it's definitely more brown than sand (as you suggest comparing it to the painting guide G) but doesn't look too bad.
I suspect once I finish, decal and hang in Sammy's room the colour difference will be long forgotten however yet another learning curve. I did some research prior to painting and noticed there's a million different colours to paint anything! I did also think Vallejo might know their paint from their paint!
One quick question......
I've used Dr_Gn's suggested method of canopy taping using think strips etc. and on the whole for a first attempt it went very well however there's a slight trace of grey primer between the clear plastic and green paint - where did I go wrong?
It's I my slight however noticeable
The only paint I use on canopies is first the interior colour (usually a matt green), followed by the camo colour and finally matt varnish. If you've used a spray can primer, that layer will almost certainly be thicker than an airbrushed primer coat. On all my models the contrast between the matt interior green coat and the outer camo colour has been so slight that it becomes invisibe.
"Dark Earth" has a multitude of interpretations from various manufacturers, and if you use a "scale effect" to lighten the colour as well, the exact shade becomes a bit difficult to determine.
Edited by dr_gn on Thursday 3rd December 12:58
dr_gn said:
HoHoHo said:
The photo was in my man cave above the garage with my red heater on which doesn't help.
I've had another look this morning and it's definitely more brown than sand (as you suggest comparing it to the painting guide G) but doesn't look too bad.
I suspect once I finish, decal and hang in Sammy's room the colour difference will be long forgotten however yet another learning curve. I did some research prior to painting and noticed there's a million different colours to paint anything! I did also think Vallejo might know their paint from their paint!
One quick question......
I've used Dr_Gn's suggested method of canopy taping using think strips etc. and on the whole for a first attempt it went very well however there's a slight trace of grey primer between the clear plastic and green paint - where did I go wrong?
It's I my slight however noticeable
I don't think you've done much wrong, it's just the edge of the primer layer showing. It might have been worsened if the paint has "torn" along the masked edge. You can get around this by running a new scalpel blade around each masked panel before removing the tape.I've had another look this morning and it's definitely more brown than sand (as you suggest comparing it to the painting guide G) but doesn't look too bad.
I suspect once I finish, decal and hang in Sammy's room the colour difference will be long forgotten however yet another learning curve. I did some research prior to painting and noticed there's a million different colours to paint anything! I did also think Vallejo might know their paint from their paint!
One quick question......
I've used Dr_Gn's suggested method of canopy taping using think strips etc. and on the whole for a first attempt it went very well however there's a slight trace of grey primer between the clear plastic and green paint - where did I go wrong?
It's I my slight however noticeable
The only paint I use on canopies is first the interior colour (usually a matt green), followed by the camo colour and finally matt varnish. If you've used a spray can primer, that layer will almost certainly be thicker than an airbrushed primer coat. On all my models the contrast between the matt interior green coat and the outer camo colour has been so slight that it becomes invisibe.
"Dark Earth" has a multitude of interpretations from various manufacturers, and if you use a "scale effect" to lighten the colour as well, the exact shade becomes a bit difficult to determine.
Edited by dr_gn on Thursday 3rd December 12:58
So are you suggesting you don't prime the canopy?
HoHoHo said:
dr_gn said:
HoHoHo said:
The photo was in my man cave above the garage with my red heater on which doesn't help.
I've had another look this morning and it's definitely more brown than sand (as you suggest comparing it to the painting guide G) but doesn't look too bad.
I suspect once I finish, decal and hang in Sammy's room the colour difference will be long forgotten however yet another learning curve. I did some research prior to painting and noticed there's a million different colours to paint anything! I did also think Vallejo might know their paint from their paint!
One quick question......
I've used Dr_Gn's suggested method of canopy taping using think strips etc. and on the whole for a first attempt it went very well however there's a slight trace of grey primer between the clear plastic and green paint - where did I go wrong?
It's I my slight however noticeable
I don't think you've done much wrong, it's just the edge of the primer layer showing. It might have been worsened if the paint has "torn" along the masked edge. You can get around this by running a new scalpel blade around each masked panel before removing the tape.I've had another look this morning and it's definitely more brown than sand (as you suggest comparing it to the painting guide G) but doesn't look too bad.
I suspect once I finish, decal and hang in Sammy's room the colour difference will be long forgotten however yet another learning curve. I did some research prior to painting and noticed there's a million different colours to paint anything! I did also think Vallejo might know their paint from their paint!
One quick question......
I've used Dr_Gn's suggested method of canopy taping using think strips etc. and on the whole for a first attempt it went very well however there's a slight trace of grey primer between the clear plastic and green paint - where did I go wrong?
It's I my slight however noticeable
The only paint I use on canopies is first the interior colour (usually a matt green), followed by the camo colour and finally matt varnish. If you've used a spray can primer, that layer will almost certainly be thicker than an airbrushed primer coat. On all my models the contrast between the matt interior green coat and the outer camo colour has been so slight that it becomes invisibe.
"Dark Earth" has a multitude of interpretations from various manufacturers, and if you use a "scale effect" to lighten the colour as well, the exact shade becomes a bit difficult to determine.
Edited by dr_gn on Thursday 3rd December 12:58
So are you suggesting you don't prime the canopy?
Simple answer is I don't prime the canopy framing - it's not worth it.
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