Pics of your models, please!

Pics of your models, please!

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Le TVR

3,092 posts

250 months

Monday 23rd July 2007
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UKbob said:
How many hours is it going to take you to get the TSR2 airbourne?
Difficult to say. So far its a couple of hundred hours drawing and building.

Add another 50 or so hours to get undercarriage to retract:



UKbob

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16,277 posts

264 months

Monday 23rd July 2007
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Bungleaio said:
UKbob said:
Nice models Le TVR, they are making me want to go out and buy a plane smile
I told you it was addictive!

I agree whole heartedly, they are amazing models, even if they were static they would be good but to think they will be fully working and can actually fly is extraordinary. I wish I had the skill to be able to make something like that myself.
I had absolutely no idea building RC cars would be nearly this much fun! biggrin Except for tyres. I can understand now why people have more than one vehicle. £70 isnt a great deal of money to spend on a new electric model, plus it comes with a sense of achievement too (unlike beer) and you get to keep it and enjoy it afterwards.

I couldnt wait to drive it when I finished it bounce (in the wee hours this morning!) so I just grabbed it and legged it outside, thrapped it all over the place, no shell, wires hanging out everywhere, chased a few cars ...as you did when you were kids biggrin "whats that nutter doing, its after midnight!" jumped it off kerbs, and managed to flip it over half a dozen times, the "backwards then forwards too suddenly thing" wheel spinning all over the place, crashed a few times, puddled it (probably not wise). Brilliant! I found a grassy common which had street lighting and managed to get it filthy and covered in damp lawn cuttings, looks like its been hauled out of a bog, I'll have to clean it again before I do the obligatory new shell photo shoot.

I was surprised at just how powerful and quick the hornet was too, I mean its blindingly fast. I know you can get much faster cars, but for a beginner, there really is quite a bit of power there! I suspect if the studded tyres were made of metal, it would rip up the roads.

I wanna build another one! smash

Bungleaio said:
Well done mate, they sound very stubborn good luck getting the other one on.

I should have thought yesterday but there's a huge amout of info on www.rcuniverse.com 
I'll have a look, cheers smile

UKbob

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16,277 posts

264 months

Monday 23rd July 2007
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Le TVR said:
UKbob said:
How many hours is it going to take you to get the TSR2 airbourne?
Difficult to say. So far its a couple of hundred hours drawing and building.

Add another 50 or so hours to get undercarriage to retract:
yikes

What a project clap

And I thought building a tamiya hornet was a challenge hehe I bet you'll be nervous bringing her in to land on the maiden flight biggrin

I really want a plane project now!

Edited by UKbob on Monday 23 July 12:27

roadrunner440

4,993 posts

205 months

Tuesday 24th July 2007
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Bob, if you want an easy build/fly first plane, look into GWS, they make a Piper Cub foamy that looks great and flies great, very easy but be warned it is addictive, if you want to jump one step ahead GWS do a plane called the E-Starter which can be built full function (4 ch) if you want.

UKbob

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16,277 posts

264 months

Wednesday 25th July 2007
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roadrunner440 said:
Bob, if you want an easy build/fly first plane, look into GWS, they make a Piper Cub foamy that looks great and flies great, very easy but be warned it is addictive, if you want to jump one step ahead GWS do a plane called the E-Starter which can be built full function (4 ch) if you want.
The estarter looks good for a trainer plane, seems cheap too, £135 for everything you need smile

roadrunner440

4,993 posts

205 months

Wednesday 25th July 2007
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Estarters fly really well if you get the CofG bang on, not really powerful enough to do loops but when you get used to it then you can get a Spitfire with a brushless motor and kiss your social life goodbye ! I sold all mine last year as I didn't have the time to fly them but the builds are good fun.

R1 GTR

2,152 posts

212 months

Wednesday 25th July 2007
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I miss RC. I did 2/3 years in 1:10 touring cars before the local club lost a lot of members through 'can't be bothered anymore' syndrome so it was a waste of time really when the max at a meeting would be 3/4 runners. How far has the tech in touring cars moved on? When i was there, 3700s were the cells to run and LiPo was just being released. Some of it was fun, like the guy who made a magnesium undertray evilbiggrinhehe
Oh and i won the award for most insane drift design. BRM 13x2HS powered TC3 with RWD only and T27 tyres. Speedo was gd too as you could adjust it for punch and launch control (not quite, but same effect) Being me, both these settings were set to max. biggrin



Edited by R1 GTR on Tuesday 31st July 15:40

hawkaye

4,505 posts

210 months

Thursday 26th July 2007
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just got the one proper rc car frown



It's a Schumacher Nitro Fusion and is scarier to drive than my real STi.

oops, forgot about the tamiya, enough about that.

UKbob

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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hawkaye said:
just got the one proper rc car frown
You and me both. Proper outcasts we are yesbiggrin

hawkaye said:


It's a Schumacher Nitro Fusion and is scarier to drive than my real STi.

oops, forgot about the tamiya, enough about that.
So how fast does it go scratchchin Ive been reading, and nitro cars are almost half as fast (some of em) as their real life counterparts.

hawkaye

4,505 posts

210 months

Thursday 26th July 2007
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from wikipedia:

"The Schumacher Fusion is an on-road 1:10 scale nitro-powered radio-controlled car made by Schumacher Racing Products. It is the fastest ready-to-run 1:10 on-road car created as of 2007, featuring a 0.21 in³ (3.5 cm&#179wink engine capable of producing 2.1 horsepower (1.6 kW) at 38,000 rpm. It is four-wheel drive with a three-speed gearbox, making it capable of speeds in excess of 80 mph (130 km/h) and 0-60 mph (0-100 km/h) times in less than two seconds.

The "E-start" system is used to start the engine, this means the starter is operated using a portable electric drill. The gearbox is not natively adjustable, the only way of adjusting it is to open it and change the springs themselves. The Fusion will reach around 65 mph (105 km/h) with standard gearing and around 80 mph (130 km/h) with optional high-speed gearing (in the form of an optional clutch bell). There is also a low-speed gear-set available for even faster acceleration to use on smaller tracks."

smokin

edited to say that it's pretty hard to handle. When I bought it I got it home, built it up, took it down the local industrial estate and rolled it about 20 times, the wheels popped off and it was pretty goosed. 50 quid to repair (and that was only 10 minutes use) biglaugh

Edited by hawkaye on Thursday 26th July 20:07

UKbob

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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hawkaye said:
from wikipedia:

"The Schumacher Fusion is an on-road 1:10 scale nitro-powered radio-controlled car made by Schumacher Racing Products. It is the fastest ready-to-run 1:10 on-road car created as of 2007, featuring a 0.21 in³ (3.5 cm&#179wink engine capable of producing 2.1 horsepower (1.6 kW) at 38,000 rpm. It is four-wheel drive with a three-speed gearbox, making it capable of speeds in excess of 80 mph (130 km/h) and 0-60 mph (0-100 km/h) times in less than two seconds.

The "E-start" system is used to start the engine, this means the starter is operated using a portable electric drill. The gearbox is not natively adjustable, the only way of adjusting it is to open it and change the springs themselves. The Fusion will reach around 65 mph (105 km/h) with standard gearing and around 80 mph (130 km/h) with optional high-speed gearing (in the form of an optional clutch bell). There is also a low-speed gear-set available for even faster acceleration to use on smaller tracks."

smokin
What!?!

hehe 2.1 HP Sounds cute, but bloody hell!!
yikes38,000 rpm
yikesyikes80mph
yikesyikesyikes0-60 in 2 seconds

I'll bet thats fun to drive on a saturday afternoon... after a few beers thumbup

Where do you drive it, track only?

hawkaye

4,505 posts

210 months

Thursday 26th July 2007
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not allowed on track (as far as I know), too quick or something according to Marionville Models rolleyes

I normally just doss around down the industrial estate at the weekend with my mates and theirs, good fun though.

p.s. drinking and driving is bad don't you know smile

here's a crappy video I made with my camera mounted on the roof. I don't think it's out of first gear on this video. If you feel dizzy after watching, I do apologise.

Edited by hawkaye on Thursday 26th July 20:23

Neil G60

692 posts

223 months

Tuesday 31st July 2007
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That TSR2 is breathtaking. I saw the real thing a Duxford a couple of weeks ago and it's a magnificent beast. Very imposing, shame it got shelved.

Casino

120 posts

219 months

Tuesday 31st July 2007
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Neil G60 said:
That TSR2 is breathtaking. I saw the real thing a Duxford a couple of weeks ago and it's a magnificent beast. Very imposing, shame it got shelved.
The roads around Duxford are a great drive too.

Eric Mc

121,684 posts

264 months

Wednesday 1st August 2007
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My skills are limited to building the Airfix kit.

Yertis

18,011 posts

265 months

Wednesday 1st August 2007
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Eric Mc said:
My skills are limited to building the Airfix kit.
Have you built it yet though?

(There's one in it's box on the guy behind me's desk actually, don't why he bought it, he only buys and builds models of Constellations normally. Buys more than builds, in the normal manner.)

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

254 months

Wednesday 1st August 2007
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UKbob said:
Hmmm.

The thing is, Im not a bloody 5 year old. Ive never not been able to do anything in my life before. I just cant get these tyres on cryragefurious
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Eric Mc

121,684 posts

264 months

Wednesday 1st August 2007
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Built the Airfix TSR2 yet?....................Erm - No!

I made sure I bought one when they initially came out as Airfix had said they were limiting the production run.

I will build it - one day.

Le TVR

3,092 posts

250 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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Eric Mc said:
I will build it - one day.
I have had the plans for a long time and that is what I was always saying too.

Just ran out of excuses not to.

I expect you'll know this Eric, the basic finish on the plane is described as 'anti-flash' white with what looks like 'faded' colours for the markings.

Is there anything particular about 'anti-flash' or it is just a gloss finish? And is there any reference colours for these 'faded' colour markings?

Eric Mc

121,684 posts

264 months

Thursday 2nd August 2007
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The magazine "Model Aircraft Monthly" ran a four part series on the TSR2 and all its colour schemes - both actual, proposed and speculative, in their April, May, June and July 2006 editions. They are probably available through their back-issue order scheme.

For the record, the only scheme ever worn by the three TSR2s actually built was, as you say, Anti-Flash White.

The official designation of the white was DTD900/4740 - manufactured by ICI.

The roundels and fin flashes were in the following colours -

Pale Red - 33B/220-2442
Pale Blue - 33B/220-2443

I find the easiest white paints to use are those stocked by Halfords in their spray-can range. White Primers and Appliance White seem to be popular choices amongst modellers.

The serial numbers and most of the stencilling was in the Pale Blue colour.

The overall finish was gloss, although in scale model a "silk" type finish would look more realistic.

It is highly unlikely that the aircraft would have worn this scheme in operational service. By the time the prtotype flew in 1964, the RAF was switching to low level tactics and the V-Force of Vulcans, Victors and Valiants was being camouflaged. BAC were issued with instructions to devise a version of this camouflage scheme for the TSR-2.
This would have consisted of the Anti-Flash white on the undersides only with a disruptive grey/green camouflage scheme on the upper surfaces and sides of the fuselage. The RAF markings would revert to the more normal Red/White/Blue colours with black serials and stencil markings.
Again, the overall finish would have been gloss.

If the aircraft HAD entered service, there is no doubt that they would have been repainted in the toned down matt finish version of this scheme by 1973/74. This featured a Light Aircraft Grey undersurface finish with the white removed from the national markings.
By the late 70s and early 80s the disruptive camouflage scheme would have extended around the whole airframe in the "wrap around" scheme.

And, there is also the possibilty that the TSR2 could have served in Gulf War 1, which means that some of them could have carried the "Desert Pink" scheme.

All these colours are covered in the Model Aircraft Magazine articles - I would highly recommend it (although the text is rather tedious, the side drawings and profiles are very interesting).