Blade MSR Micro RC Helicopter

Blade MSR Micro RC Helicopter

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dr_gn

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16,168 posts

185 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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andrewrob said:
Anthony Micallef said:
Ive just got my Blade SR and its great. Having never flown a Heli before I can say that its fairly easy to fly. Like other people have said its really durable and takes crashes well.

Ive got the dreaded 'toilet bowl affect' can anyone tell me how to get rid of it please?
Apparently the fly bar ring that the shaft goes through is known to wear after alot of use so you might just need a new one.
Are there any upgrades for this heli yet?

andrewrob

2,913 posts

191 months

Friday 27th August 2010
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Yes, you can get a cnc head, blade grips etc. Not tried any though.

dr_gn

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16,168 posts

185 months

Saturday 28th August 2010
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Ordered today! Should arrive Tuesday.

After chatting to an esteemed colleague I decided aganist the DX6i option. FWIW I'll get a 2.4Ghz Futaba system at some point.

dr_gn

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16,168 posts

185 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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Got the Blade today...

biglaughbiglaughbiglaugh

amazing...

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

199 months

Friday 3rd September 2010
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dr_gn said:
Got the Blade today...

biglaughbiglaughbiglaugh

amazing...
Come on man - a proper review please.

I received a cheap contra type today off a mate as a present and it's great fun. However, it's made me start looking at better specced ones that have more accurate controls. This could be a candidate.

Luftwaffe

62 posts

164 months

Friday 3rd September 2010
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I shall shortly be disposing of my blade mcx of you have appropriate gear to bind it to

free if you want it

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

199 months

Friday 3rd September 2010
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Luftwaffe said:
I shall shortly be disposing of my blade mcx of you have appropriate gear to bind it to

free if you want it
Very kind of you. Unfortunately I haven't and I'm finding it hard enough with the small cheap one. There is horrendous torque reaction which changes massively with rotor speed (depite being a contra design) and the pitch contol only sends the helo fwd. Backwards isn't really an option.

If I can crack using this then I'll look into upgrading. Any advice on what would be a good package for someone who has no aircraft RC experience at all, but with decent hand to eye coordination.

Edited by rhinochopig on Friday 3rd September 13:43

dr_gn

Original Poster:

16,168 posts

185 months

Friday 3rd September 2010
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rhinochopig said:
dr_gn said:
Got the Blade today...

biglaughbiglaughbiglaugh

amazing...
Come on man - a proper review please.

I received a cheap contra type today off a mate as a present and it's great fun. However, it's made me start looking at better specced ones that have more accurate controls. This could be a candidate.
Well, it's a tiny little helicopter about 200mm long (non-coaxial) that you can fly around a room, or outdoors in calm conditions, and it makes the correct helicopter noises. Need any more than that? biglaugh It's like a PicoZ, only controllable.

I've crashed it into plants/chairs/walls/children and it is so light it just bounces off - unlike my coaxial Walkera 55 and ESky Lama which would usually require a rebuild after anything other than a half decent landing. It comes with a 'playstation' type Tx, 2 LiPo batteries and a charger. Flight time is around 5/6 minutes per battery. Charging time is about 20 minutes. The tx has a high rate and a low rate mode (sensitivity) and the swashplate has 2 settings: docile and mad, so effectively you have four 'sensitivity' settings to play with. If you get into trouble you can let go of the sticks and it will more or less return to a stable hover. The electronics consist of a '5-in-1' circuit board which integrates 2 almost invisible servos, speed control, gyro and receiver. Mad.

The cheapest place I found was here (c £106 delivered):

http://www.kingslynnmodelshop.co.uk/Helicopters_&a...

....so I suggest as soon as you stop reading this (assuming you've got this far) you order one immediately.

Mines just finished charging. byeeee.


rhinochopig

17,932 posts

199 months

Friday 3rd September 2010
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dr_gn said:
rhinochopig said:
dr_gn said:
Got the Blade today...

biglaughbiglaughbiglaugh

amazing...
Come on man - a proper review please.

I received a cheap contra type today off a mate as a present and it's great fun. However, it's made me start looking at better specced ones that have more accurate controls. This could be a candidate.
Well, it's a tiny little helicopter about 200mm long (non-coaxial) that you can fly around a room, or outdoors in calm conditions, and it makes the correct helicopter noises. Need any more than that? biglaugh It's like a PicoZ, only controllable.

I've crashed it into plants/chairs/walls/children and it is so light it just bounces off - unlike my coaxial Walkera 55 and ESky Lama which would usually require a rebuild after anything other than a half decent landing. It comes with a 'playstation' type Tx, 2 LiPo batteries and a charger. Flight time is around 5/6 minutes per battery. Charging time is about 20 minutes. The tx has a high rate and a low rate mode (sensitivity) and the swashplate has 2 settings: docile and mad, so effectively you have four 'sensitivity' settings to play with. If you get into trouble you can let go of the sticks and it will more or less return to a stable hover. The electronics consist of a '5-in-1' circuit board which integrates 2 almost invisible servos, speed control, gyro and receiver. Mad.

The cheapest place I found was here (c £106 delivered):

http://www.kingslynnmodelshop.co.uk/Helicopters_&a...

....so I suggest as soon as you stop reading this (assuming you've got this far) you order one immediately.

Mines just finished charging. byeeee.
rofl

Assuming you still have your eyesight and can read this. Thanks. If I crack this I may add that to my Christmas list.

Mine too will have finished charging now, so I'm off to attempt to land on the Helipad (AKA one of my son's hardback books) whilst avoiding the mountain range (sofa).

M-J-B

14,987 posts

251 months

Friday 3rd September 2010
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Great little helicopter, here it is in my kitchen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecVPsFy1Zq8&fea...


dr_gn

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16,168 posts

185 months

Friday 3rd September 2010
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M-J-B said:
Great little helicopter, here it is in my kitchen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecVPsFy1Zq8&fea...
If anything it'd too stable for outdoor flight: forward flight is OK for a coule of seconds, then it tries to return to hover again. I've tried the advanced setup which improves things a bit.

Indoors it's fine because you don't need to fly forwards for long (unless it's in a warehouse!).

M-J-B

14,987 posts

251 months

Friday 3rd September 2010
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dr_gn said:
M-J-B said:
Great little helicopter, here it is in my kitchen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecVPsFy1Zq8&fea...
If anything it'd too stable for outdoor flight: forward flight is OK for a coule of seconds, then it tries to return to hover again. I've tried the advanced setup which improves things a bit.

Indoors it's fine because you don't need to fly forwards for long (unless it's in a warehouse!).
I fly it around the garden on a still night and it's quite lively. Just got to keep the cyclic pushed forward and it goes like stink!

dr_gn

Original Poster:

16,168 posts

185 months

Friday 3rd September 2010
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M-J-B said:
dr_gn said:
M-J-B said:
Great little helicopter, here it is in my kitchen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecVPsFy1Zq8&fea...
If anything it'd too stable for outdoor flight: forward flight is OK for a coule of seconds, then it tries to return to hover again. I've tried the advanced setup which improves things a bit.

Indoors it's fine because you don't need to fly forwards for long (unless it's in a warehouse!).
I fly it around the garden on a still night and it's quite lively. Just got to keep the cyclic pushed forward and it goes like stink!
What settings are you using on Tx & swashplate?

EDITED: Just been out in the garden - it does shift true enough, but mine tends to get a bit upset after a manouver, such as straightening after a fast turn: tends to spin out, and after forward flight and you stop, it rocks backwards pertty violently.

Crashed it flat out into a bird feeder, then a stone wall and a tree - it just doesn't break.

Edited by dr_gn on Friday 3rd September 20:28

M-J-B

14,987 posts

251 months

Friday 3rd September 2010
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dr_gn said:
M-J-B said:
dr_gn said:
M-J-B said:
Great little helicopter, here it is in my kitchen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecVPsFy1Zq8&fea...
If anything it'd too stable for outdoor flight: forward flight is OK for a coule of seconds, then it tries to return to hover again. I've tried the advanced setup which improves things a bit.

Indoors it's fine because you don't need to fly forwards for long (unless it's in a warehouse!).
I fly it around the garden on a still night and it's quite lively. Just got to keep the cyclic pushed forward and it goes like stink!
What settings are you using on Tx & swashplate?

EDITED: Just been out in the garden - it does shift true enough, but mine tends to get a bit upset after a manouver, such as straightening after a fast turn: tends to spin out, and after forward flight and you stop, it rocks backwards pertty violently.

Crashed it flat out into a bird feeder, then a stone wall and a tree - it just doesn't break.

Edited by dr_gn on Friday 3rd September 20:28
Nothing changed on the transmitter, just moved the arms on the swashplate to give maximum movement.

It's different to flying other remote control heli's, but good fun and almost indistructable!

Emsman

6,923 posts

191 months

Friday 3rd September 2010
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rhinochopig said:
Luftwaffe said:
I shall shortly be disposing of my blade mcx of you have appropriate gear to bind it to

free if you want it
Very kind of you. Unfortunately I haven't and I'm finding it hard enough with the small cheap one. There is horrendous torque reaction which changes massively with rotor speed (depite being a contra design) and the pitch contol only sends the helo fwd. Backwards isn't really an option.

If I can crack using this then I'll look into upgrading. Any advice on what would be a good package for someone who has no aircraft RC experience at all, but with decent hand to eye coordination.

Edited by rhinochopig on Friday 3rd September 13:43
problem with the small and dare I say it 'cheap ones' is that they all have a few problems.
I started with a blade mcx, and to be honest, the difference is amazing.
I have a dx5 and the blade- currently with a mate to learn on but coming back next week.
I will gladly post them to you for a couple of weeks if you would like to borrow it to learn on- 4 mates have so far, once you get a decent one that will fly well, it all clicks into place.
I would appreciate it back after a while- and would trust a PH'er to return it- but the offer is there, and they really are quite amazing to learn with

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

199 months

Saturday 4th September 2010
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Emsman said:
rhinochopig said:
Luftwaffe said:
I shall shortly be disposing of my blade mcx of you have appropriate gear to bind it to

free if you want it
Very kind of you. Unfortunately I haven't and I'm finding it hard enough with the small cheap one. There is horrendous torque reaction which changes massively with rotor speed (depite being a contra design) and the pitch contol only sends the helo fwd. Backwards isn't really an option.

If I can crack using this then I'll look into upgrading. Any advice on what would be a good package for someone who has no aircraft RC experience at all, but with decent hand to eye coordination.

Edited by rhinochopig on Friday 3rd September 13:43
problem with the small and dare I say it 'cheap ones' is that they all have a few problems.
I started with a blade mcx, and to be honest, the difference is amazing.
I have a dx5 and the blade- currently with a mate to learn on but coming back next week.
I will gladly post them to you for a couple of weeks if you would like to borrow it to learn on- 4 mates have so far, once you get a decent one that will fly well, it all clicks into place.
I would appreciate it back after a while- and would trust a PH'er to return it- but the offer is there, and they really are quite amazing to learn with
Cheers Emsman, another very kind offer - two in one thread. I have a policy of never borrowing other peoples stuff if it's breakable - and let's face it these chaps are eminently breakable. I think in a few weeks I might just bite the bullet and get one of my own. My 16month old son is fascinated by the one I have now, so I can convince his mum that it's really for him hehe

Thanks though thumbup

Out of the blade and the dx5 which has the best bang for buck?

Emsman

6,923 posts

191 months

Saturday 4th September 2010
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Sorry, bit of confusion- the dx 5 is the transmitter, it's one of the bind and fly types of helicopter- if you have the transmitter, it just attatches itself to that frequency.
The alternative is to buy the rtf version- that comes with it's own transmitter.

Oh, and it's lived with me for a year- if I can't break it.........

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

199 months

Sunday 5th September 2010
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Thanks for offer, but I've just bought one. I had some birthday money that I've been looking to spend on something and videos of this thing whizzing about have sold me on one.

dr_gn

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16,168 posts

185 months

Sunday 5th September 2010
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rhinochopig said:
Thanks for offer, but I've just bought one. I had some birthday money that I've been looking to spend on something and videos of this thing whizzing about have sold me on one.
Ha ha...fished in!...but you won't regret it.

I can fly mine a bit better now: I was automatically using the right stick for turning (as for gliders etc) but it doesn't work so well for helis in a confined space! Better to just use forward right stick, and yaw with the left stick to make a turn. It's amazing how quickly you get used to different control methods, but un-learning them again is hard!

M-J-B

14,987 posts

251 months

Sunday 5th September 2010
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dr_gn said:
rhinochopig said:
Thanks for offer, but I've just bought one. I had some birthday money that I've been looking to spend on something and videos of this thing whizzing about have sold me on one.
Ha ha...fished in!...but you won't regret it.

I can fly mine a bit better now: I was automatically using the right stick for turning (as for gliders etc) but it doesn't work so well for helis in a confined space! Better to just use forward right stick, and yaw with the left stick to make a turn. It's amazing how quickly you get used to different control methods, but un-learning them again is hard!
Correct, if you don't use the rudder on a helicopter, it won't turn.

Another common mistake is to shut the power down when in trouble. Works in a fixed wing, not in a helicopter. Power up and gain some height, then sort yourself out. Flying rotary and fixed wing is totally different and some people struggle to get their mind around the differences and make it instinctive. The best way to learn is to have both types, take them out and swap each flight. Gets even more interesting when you have a larger helicopter and start to fly nose in yes

I fly a Blade 400 and a Twister 3D and they too are totally difference machines. I like the MSR though because you can chuck it around, crash it, pick it up and fly it again. That said, the cost of crashes are insignificant to when I started flying helicopters in early 90's. Back the. You'd next no change out of a couple of hundred quid every time you had a coming together with the ground!

I bought some carbon blades for the larger helicopters and they were £17 for two pairs. I have been used to paying £100 plus for a pair, prices have plummeted across the board which is good for the hobby.