P51 DV Aircraft

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M-J-B

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Friday 17th September 2010
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Bought this today and have installed a mini DVD camera.....





Just hope the weather is good over the weekend biggrin

Oh, and I will secure it even though it's a tight fit to stop it falling out wink


Shar2

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214 months

Friday 17th September 2010
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Cool!

M-J-B

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Friday 17th September 2010
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Shar2 said:
Cool!
Providing the c of g is in the right place and the weight isn't compromised it will be!

Shar2

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Friday 17th September 2010
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Probably a good idea to get that right. redface) We're looking at fitting a DV camera into one of our R/C aircraft at work.

M-J-B

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Shar2 said:
Probably a good idea to get that right. redface) We're looking at fitting a DV camera into one of our R/C aircraft at work.
It feels right, and I feel comfortable enough with thw weight to have a go.

Batteries on charge and hoping for good weather wink

What are you getting up to at work?

Groovydale

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216 months

Friday 17th September 2010
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Ive got one of those Muvi cameras and have had some good aerial vids. The best perspective is as a pilots eye view but filming through the prop will give crap results, just try it!. Best to angle the cam to the side and slightly down so as you miss the prop arc, but its all about experimenting. Ive got my muvi mounted inside the canopy of a Lander panther jet but not maidened it yet !

M-J-B

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Friday 17th September 2010
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Groovydale said:
Ive got one of those Muvi cameras and have had some good aerial vids. The best perspective is as a pilots eye view but filming through the prop will give crap results, just try it!. Best to angle the cam to the side and slightly down so as you miss the prop arc, but its all about experimenting. Ive got my muvi mounted inside the canopy of a Lander panther jet but not maidened it yet !
I thought the prop may cause a problem....

Do you have any videos posted you've taken, be good to see what I'm up against!

Shar2

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Friday 17th September 2010
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M-J-B said:
Shar2 said:
Probably a good idea to get that right. redface) We're looking at fitting a DV camera into one of our R/C aircraft at work.
It feels right, and I feel comfortable enough with thw weight to have a go.

Batteries on charge and hoping for good weather wink

What are you getting up to at work?
We've got several R/C aicraft, one of which has full GPS/Autopilot fitted. We are looking at fitting it with a DV camera with wireless transmitter to make a development drone for our students to work with. We will then have live visuals straight to our laptop. If this works then we may fit the whole system into our R/C jet Baby Boomarang, although it may be a bit underpowered for that, any excuse to buy a bigger engine. biggrin

Emsman

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191 months

Saturday 18th September 2010
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Which p51is it? It looks like ferocious frankie? Which was the first generation parkzone, although that didn't have undercarriage???

Great looking model though, should get some nice results- all you need now is something the same rough scale to dogfight with!!

M-J-B

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Saturday 18th September 2010
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Well it didn't go well frown

The c of g was obviously way too far back and the aircraft was difficult to control, right up to the point where it hit the ground.......... a couple of times! Spinner has gone and the motor is now loose, so a bit of glue and time required.

I then attached the camera on the front of my Blade 400 3D and had a second go. Pretty good, although there is obviously. Some high frequency vibration that is affecting the camera. I've posted it onto YouTube and will provide a link when it's uploaded.

I'm going to buy a high wing of some description and giv.e it another go. Problem with the P51 is the bettery needs to be where the camera is, and you can't fit both in the same place!

Shar2

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Saturday 18th September 2010
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Sorry to hear that. Well, you know what they say, if at first you don't succeed etc etc ......

SlipStream77

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Saturday 18th September 2010
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M-J-B

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Saturday 18th September 2010
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SlipStream77 said:
Love the bear video - it even looks around!

M-J-B

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Saturday 18th September 2010
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Shar2 said:
Sorry to hear that. Well, you know what they say, if at first you don't succeed etc etc ......
Yeh, ah well!

I've repaired the P51 and will use it for its intended purpose - flying without a bloody camera......

I'll have a look around for a cub or similar and possibly something bigger to take the weight and not affect the c of g quite so much.

The youtube video is still processing, as soon as it's there I'll post a link.

ferrisbueller

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228 months

Saturday 18th September 2010
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SlipStream77 said:
There's a company called Cue Air that do RC aeroplane videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTDuGaTRiJU
rofl

Loving their work.

dr_gn

16,168 posts

185 months

Saturday 18th September 2010
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M-J-B said:
Shar2 said:
Sorry to hear that. Well, you know what they say, if at first you don't succeed etc etc ......
and not affect the c of g quite so much.
Why not just re-balance it *with* the camera to where the balance point was *without* it?

M-J-B

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Sunday 19th September 2010
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dr_gn said:
M-J-B said:
Shar2 said:
Sorry to hear that. Well, you know what they say, if at first you don't succeed etc etc ......
and not affect the c of g quite so much.
Why not just re-balance it *with* the camera to where the balance point was *without* it?
Because there isn't enough room within the fuselage for the speed controller, battery, motor and DV cam frown

dr_gn

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185 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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M-J-B said:
dr_gn said:
M-J-B said:
Shar2 said:
Sorry to hear that. Well, you know what they say, if at first you don't succeed etc etc ......
and not affect the c of g quite so much.
Why not just re-balance it *with* the camera to where the balance point was *without* it?
Because there isn't enough room within the fuselage for the speed controller, battery, motor and DV cam frown
There must be: you flew it.

If you need more front ballast, tape a strip of lead on the nose as far forward as you can get it, or put some on the tail...whatever you need to balance it.

Nothing to stop you taping the battery (or s/c) on the outside either in a more appropriate place.

Edited by dr_gn on Sunday 19th September 09:18

M-J-B

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Sunday 19th September 2010
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dr_gn said:
M-J-B said:
dr_gn said:
M-J-B said:
Shar2 said:
Sorry to hear that. Well, you know what they say, if at first you don't succeed etc etc ......
and not affect the c of g quite so much.
Why not just re-balance it *with* the camera to where the balance point was *without* it?
Because there isn't enough room within the fuselage for the speed controller, battery, motor and DV cam frown
There must be: you flew it.
In order to get the c of g correct, the four elements above need to be forward of the cockpit and there's simply not enough room.

dr_gn

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185 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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M-J-B said:
dr_gn said:
M-J-B said:
dr_gn said:
M-J-B said:
Shar2 said:
Sorry to hear that. Well, you know what they say, if at first you don't succeed etc etc ......
and not affect the c of g quite so much.
Why not just re-balance it *with* the camera to where the balance point was *without* it?
Because there isn't enough room within the fuselage for the speed controller, battery, motor and DV cam frown
There must be: you flew it.
In order to get the c of g correct, the four elements above need to be forward of the cockpit and there's simply not enough room.
See edit above re. mounting battery outside or adding lead ballast. I add external balast all the time to gliders for flying in high winds.