GB: Academy Tempest V - Gokartmozart

[Gokartmozart]

Just opening my account. Not home until the 19th and not had a chance to
read up on references. More than likely it will be an OOB build.


I was thinking of an in flight dio, if I could source a 1/72 V1.

[Eric Mc]

Gokartmozart said:

Just opening my account. Not home until the 19th and not had a chance to
read up on references. More than likely it will be an OOB build.


I was thinking of an in flight dio, if I could source a 1/72 V1.

Airfix have included a V1 with their Meteor III kit - if you can track it down. Many years ago, FROG included a V1 with their Spitfire XIV.

[dr_gn]

Eric Mc said:

Gokartmozart said:

Just opening my account. Not home until the 19th and not had a chance to
read up on references. More than likely it will be an OOB build.


I was thinking of an in flight dio, if I could source a 1/72 V1.

Airfix have included a V1 with their Meteor III kit - if you can track it down. Many years ago, FROG included a V1 with their Spitfire XIV.

As did Revell with their Arado 234.

[Gokartmozart]

Thanks for that. I know Pegasus do one but it is 1/18. I'll have a look into the one's mentioned.

Still not 100% on the idea. I think it may be one that works well in the head, but let down by reality.

[Eric Mc]

dr_gn said:

Eric Mc said:

Gokartmozart said:

Just opening my account. Not home until the 19th and not had a chance to
read up on references. More than likely it will be an OOB build.


I was thinking of an in flight dio, if I could source a 1/72 V1.

Airfix have included a V1 with their Meteor III kit - if you can track it down. Many years ago, FROG included a V1 with their Spitfire XIV.

As did Revell with their Arado 234.

As the Revell Arado Ar234 is the old FROG kit, I expect the V1 contained therein is also the old FROG one too. I built the FROG V1 back in the 70s. I can't recall if it was accurate or not - I bet it wasn't.

[The_Jackal]

Wouldnt a V1 be quite easy to scratch build? Its made up of quite basic shapes.

[Eric Mc]

I suppose.

I have the Osprey book on the V1 and there were quite a few permutations on the basic design. They were built by a number of different companies and sometimes the different companies made little changes to the basic layout.

[Gokartmozart]

Ok Got the kit and Ospreys Aces No.27 Typhoon and Tempest Aces of WW2.

Also got lucky in Modelzone as there on a shelf was a DD Meteor v V1.
Only downside was the cost of £19 which was 3x that of the Tempest.

[Gokartmozart]

Initial work on the V1 as it's only 4 parts. A few shrink holes to fill and a quick spray of Halfords Gray.



Still needs some work on the seams. Drilled out the plate in the front of the intake and replaced it with some netting from an armour kit.




Onto the Tempest. As stated not a bad kit at all even though this is not really my scale, goes together quite well.

Pain in the butt sink mark - port side below the pit.


Added some 1/8" brass tube for the cannon.

Pit was a bit tight on dry fitting and was pushing the fuse halves out, also causing a little fit issue with the upper wing parts.
Shimmed down the pit floor, for a better fit.





F/O Harding with a lick of colour. Not the best at figures, but passable for 1/72.




Hoping for a display like this, using the DD stand and clear acrylic or sprue.



Probably complete as US-H of 56 Sqn during Diver operations.

[dr_gn]

Gokartmozart said:

Hoping for a display like this, using the DD stand and clear acrylic or sprue.



Probably complete as US-H of 56 Sqn during Diver operations.

That's going to look most excellent. I suppose you could also model them wingtip under wingtip...or was that technique only with the Meteor?

[The_Jackal]

I think I read somewhere that the Tempests used to tip with their wings too.

[Gokartmozart]

dr_gn said:

Gokartmozart said:

Hoping for a display like this, using the DD stand and clear acrylic or sprue.



Probably complete as US-H of 56 Sqn during Diver operations.

That's going to look most excellent. I suppose you could also model them wingtip under wingtip...or was that technique only with the Meteor?

Cheers Dr_Gn

Yes that's the idea if the base is suitable.

It was also used by Tempests and Spits and probably Meteors too.

In a way choosing the Tempest has been a bit of an eye opener. By type the Tempest was the most successful V1 destroyer.
Being used by 3, 56 and 486 Sqns under the 150th Wing I think, under "Bee" Beaumount

Spits were also used along with Mossie Nightfigthers. On Anti Diver Sorties

He came up with gun harmonisation at 300 yds as at 400 the V1 was too small a target and at 200 posed a serious risk to the pilots from blast damage. It may have been Beaumont who came up with the wing flip idea too.


From what I have read the Meteror was only a partial success mainly has it had problems with the cannon fitted.
So I guess wing flips were probably used.

[dr_gn]

Gokartmozart said:

dr_gn said:

Gokartmozart said:

Hoping for a display like this, using the DD stand and clear acrylic or sprue.



Probably complete as US-H of 56 Sqn during Diver operations.

That's going to look most excellent. I suppose you could also model them wingtip under wingtip...or was that technique only with the Meteor?

Cheers Dr_Gn

Yes that's the idea if the base is suitable.

It was also used by Tempests and Spits and probably Meteors too.

In a way choosing the Tempest has been a bit of an eye opener. By type the Tempest was the most successful V1 destroyer.
Being used by 3, 56 and 486 Sqns under the 150th Wing I think, under "Bee" Beaumount

Spits were also used along with Mossie Nightfigthers. On Anti Diver Sorties

He came up with gun harmonisation at 300 yds as at 400 the V1 was too small a target and at 200 posed a serious risk to the pilots from blast damage. It may have been Beaumont who came up with the wing flip idea too.


From what I have read the Meteror was only a partial success mainly has it had problems with the cannon fitted.
So I guess wing flips were probably used.

I wonder why they didn't start fitting detonator push buttons under the wings of the V1's when they realised how they were being destroyed. I suppose the obvious answer is that they didn't know what was happening, after all, how would they?

[perdu]

Wasn't quite that simple doc

Mac Kennaugh, one of 56 sqn's pilots told me (and a few other Brum IPMS bods) that they would use disturbed airflow to tip the V1s rather than physically touch the other's wings. Turbulence generated would destabilise the flying bomb's gyros and allow them to topple. I believe they used to fly alongside and have a wingtip below the bomb's tip, this caused extra lift on one side and soon after an almighty bang down below.

[dr_gn]

perdu said:

Wasn't quite that simple doc

Never is Perdu. Thanks for the insight.

[dr_gn]

Gokartmozart said:

Pain in the butt sink mark - port side below the pit.

Same with mine (didn't notice it before). Corresponds to the canopy winding gear on the inside. Tut tut.

[Eric Mc]

Yes - I read that it was the wing tip vortex which was the main weapon used to make the V1 unstable. Physical contact was avoided if at all possible - although undoubtedly it did occur.

Blasting away at a V1 with your cannons was highly dangerous.

[Yertis]

dr_gn said:

I wonder why they didn't start fitting detonator push buttons under the wings of the V1's when they realised how they were being destroyed. I suppose the obvious answer is that they didn't know what was happening, after all, how would they?

They certainly knew about the technique, I read that in the piece about Goering's Tempest. They also thought that we had fitted some sort of cushion device to our wingtips.

[Gokartmozart]

Well have worked on this off and on.

Snapped the V1 engine off at lest twice.

Had one issue closing up the tempest, cockpit floor seemed too wide and had to add a shim on the rad housing join.

Tail wheel doors oversize in height by around 2mm.

Still need to correct sky band and touch up some demarcation lines.
Add invasion stripes.
Add cockpit glazing
Add blurred prop.
Add decals.
Paint exhausts.

Made the mistake of adding the drop tanks, which were only used from Dec 44.
I'm doing 56 Sqn US-H around mid Aug 44. So these will probably come off.

[perdu]

I really really like this

It looks great with both machines flying along

(do you have a doodlebug soundtrack fitted in an iPod dock to go under the base?)

OK only mukkin abaht

I love the concept for this display

Tempest coming along nicely too

US-H rings a bell was it a kit decal choice (can you tell I wasn't concentrating back in January, 'cos I was embedded in my Typhoon idea)

Aha

Now I know

US-H was one of my friend Mac Kennaugh's steeds at the time, he flew her on many occasions

It is one of the options from the IPMS memorial decal sheet released by Almarks to celebrate 25 years of the IPMS

Cor

you could be making a model of a mate of mine if Mr Harding wasn't driving one day