GB : Revell Tempest V : tangerine_sedge
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I've got a Revell Tempest V winging it's way to me from the bay of 'E' after all attempts at sourcing one locally failed!
It looks like I'm the only person attempting to make the 'correct' kit, as everybody else has gone for Academy or Airfix, so I expect preferential treatment when it comes to judging the entries
I'll wait and see what the kit looks like, before I decide whether to do anything other than a quick build.
As usual, the model will be made to fly at 7000 feet above my sons bedroom floor, so will be wheels up and in-flight. It's unlikely that I'll add any cockpit detail, as there won't be much to see once the hood is up and the pilot is in position.
Finally, I might peruse my spare decals box and consider a suitable WIF scenario - so watch this space!
potential WIFs :
Goerings Tempest (as discussed elsewhere) - just requires generic German decals.
Post WW2 users of Tempests? Sweden/Finland/France/Eastern European/Israel?
Tempests used by Russia during later stages of WW2?
Re-engined Tempest? Hmm, might have to see what I've got in the spares box!
It looks like I'm the only person attempting to make the 'correct' kit, as everybody else has gone for Academy or Airfix, so I expect preferential treatment when it comes to judging the entries
I'll wait and see what the kit looks like, before I decide whether to do anything other than a quick build.
As usual, the model will be made to fly at 7000 feet above my sons bedroom floor, so will be wheels up and in-flight. It's unlikely that I'll add any cockpit detail, as there won't be much to see once the hood is up and the pilot is in position.
Finally, I might peruse my spare decals box and consider a suitable WIF scenario - so watch this space!
potential WIFs :
Goerings Tempest (as discussed elsewhere) - just requires generic German decals.
Post WW2 users of Tempests? Sweden/Finland/France/Eastern European/Israel?
Tempests used by Russia during later stages of WW2?
Re-engined Tempest? Hmm, might have to see what I've got in the spares box!
Received the kit from bay of "E", very fast response indeed!
I've taken a quick look and it's very basic :
Covered in rivets
Very basic cockpit (at least it has a pilot)
holes for wheel wells
Covered in flash
No tail wheel doors
No detail on rear of radiator bump
Propeller and spinner molded together
Thick sprue gates
I'm not sure wether to do a quick glue and paint job, or to spend lots of time fixing these problems...
.....sod it, I'm lazy an didn't choose the tempest, so a quick glue and paint job it will be!
Now, I've just got to decide the wif scheme/backstory....
A (c) revell 1982 stamped on tail!
The Airfix model is superior in every way...
I've taken a quick look and it's very basic :
Covered in rivets
Very basic cockpit (at least it has a pilot)
holes for wheel wells
Covered in flash
No tail wheel doors
No detail on rear of radiator bump
Propeller and spinner molded together
Thick sprue gates
I'm not sure wether to do a quick glue and paint job, or to spend lots of time fixing these problems...
.....sod it, I'm lazy an didn't choose the tempest, so a quick glue and paint job it will be!
Now, I've just got to decide the wif scheme/backstory....
A (c) revell 1982 stamped on tail!
The Airfix model is superior in every way...
Sounds like you have an antique kit there! Some of the chat suggests that Revell have improved these days.
It's over thirty blinkin' years since I've had a go at one of these kits.
What you've described has jogged my memory from those times, me and my mates always used to buy Airfix in preference to other makes.
You seem to have a shiite old Revell kit, and I seem to have a shiite new Airfix one with no less than 45 parts!!
At least you have a pilot tho.
It's over thirty blinkin' years since I've had a go at one of these kits.
What you've described has jogged my memory from those times, me and my mates always used to buy Airfix in preference to other makes.
You seem to have a shiite old Revell kit, and I seem to have a shiite new Airfix one with no less than 45 parts!!
At least you have a pilot tho.
Edited by pacman1 on Tuesday 18th January 20:56
The Airfix one is really a Heller kit. Heller designed and manufactured the moulds in the mid 70s. For its era it is a very neat little kit.
The Revell kit is probably older than 1982 I'd say. I bet the moulds originated in the 60s.
Modern Revell Germany kits are probably the best 1/72 kits in production these days.
The Revell kit is probably older than 1982 I'd say. I bet the moulds originated in the 60s.
Modern Revell Germany kits are probably the best 1/72 kits in production these days.
I decided to model "Goerings" Tempest. I can't remember where I got the idea from, but it should be a bright and simple colour scheme which should help me to build quickly. As an added bonus, it does not include invasion stripes!!
For some background and pictures of how it will hopefully look, see here : Goerings Tempest
Seeing as no photographs of the airframe exist, then I'll use some of the following photos to get a feel for how these were marked up : captured Allied aircraft
This should be a quick build hopefully, so I can get back to working on my stash....
For some background and pictures of how it will hopefully look, see here : Goerings Tempest
Seeing as no photographs of the airframe exist, then I'll use some of the following photos to get a feel for how these were marked up : captured Allied aircraft
This should be a quick build hopefully, so I can get back to working on my stash....
Red Firecracker said:
Ah, good luck, we'll have two of them on display then. Get a few more and we can orgamise a dog fight with all those ARF Tempests that are about to appear!
If you originally proposed this scheme, then I'm more than happy to revert to a WIF or standard build. I don't want to steal someone elses good idea!tangerine_sedge said:
Red Firecracker said:
Ah, good luck, we'll have two of them on display then. Get a few more and we can orgamise a dog fight with all those ARF Tempests that are about to appear!
If you originally proposed this scheme, then I'm more than happy to revert to a WIF or standard build. I don't want to steal someone elses good idea!Red Firecracker said:
tangerine_sedge said:
Red Firecracker said:
Ah, good luck, we'll have two of them on display then. Get a few more and we can orgamise a dog fight with all those ARF Tempests that are about to appear!
If you originally proposed this scheme, then I'm more than happy to revert to a WIF or standard build. I don't want to steal someone elses good idea!Made some progress today
Some problems with this kit, some easy to fix others more difficult.
Prop and spinner moulded as one piece - this will need careful cleaning up and painting.
IMG_2020 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
The radiator exit is very poorly moulded - I will have to do something about this.
IMG_2021 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
So these are the main colours required - yellow and green! I'll be using these German decals, I havn't decided what codes to give it, but It'll be something simple.
IMG_2023 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
This is the rear of the radiator for comparison with the Airfix kit (as made by my son!)
IMG_2025 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
I've removed the moulded piece on the wing, and part of the fuselage.
IMG_2029 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
Here, I've used blu-tack to hold the wheelbay doors in place whilst I apply glue.
IMG_2031 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
And, here with the wheel bay doors glued, and a better view of the remodelled radiator.
IMG_2032 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
Some filling will be required at the wing-roots.
IMG_2041 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
Nasty location for a sprue mark - right next to the fin, this has taken some careful sanding and will require more!
IMG_2038 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
A close up of the radiator - this will need more attention!
IMG_2033 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
All in all, this took about 2 hours to get this point, estimate another 5 or 6 to completion!
Some problems with this kit, some easy to fix others more difficult.
Prop and spinner moulded as one piece - this will need careful cleaning up and painting.
IMG_2020 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
The radiator exit is very poorly moulded - I will have to do something about this.
IMG_2021 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
So these are the main colours required - yellow and green! I'll be using these German decals, I havn't decided what codes to give it, but It'll be something simple.
IMG_2023 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
This is the rear of the radiator for comparison with the Airfix kit (as made by my son!)
IMG_2025 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
I've removed the moulded piece on the wing, and part of the fuselage.
IMG_2029 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
Here, I've used blu-tack to hold the wheelbay doors in place whilst I apply glue.
IMG_2031 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
And, here with the wheel bay doors glued, and a better view of the remodelled radiator.
IMG_2032 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
Some filling will be required at the wing-roots.
IMG_2041 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
Nasty location for a sprue mark - right next to the fin, this has taken some careful sanding and will require more!
IMG_2038 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
A close up of the radiator - this will need more attention!
IMG_2033 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
All in all, this took about 2 hours to get this point, estimate another 5 or 6 to completion!
dr_gn said:
Chuff me is that the latest Revell Tempest or a 1960's original one ?
ETA just re-read, it's 1982. Is that the latest?
I got it from ebay, but it's in the current boxing, so probably no more than a few years old. Yes it's got (c) 1982 stamped on the tail! I'll have to somehow weave that into my Goerings Tempest/WIF story ETA just re-read, it's 1982. Is that the latest?
Edited by dr_gn on Tuesday 25th January 00:18
To be fair, I've made a lot of old tool Airfix kits over the last few years, so it's nothing out of the ordinary for me.
I've decided that I will replace the flap on the radiator with a scratchbuild (i.e. bit of plasticard) version, but wasn't quite sure how to cut out the existing plastic neatly....
...then by miracle, my wife presented me with a dremel drill as a late Xmas present - success! Whatever happens I will at least be able to see what mess a Dremel can make to plastic (I have a feeling that the plastic will just melt, but lets see )
...then by miracle, my wife presented me with a dremel drill as a late Xmas present - success! Whatever happens I will at least be able to see what mess a Dremel can make to plastic (I have a feeling that the plastic will just melt, but lets see
)tangerine_sedge said:
dr_gn said:
Chuff me is that the latest Revell Tempest or a 1960's original one ?
ETA just re-read, it's 1982. Is that the latest?
I got it from ebay, but it's in the current boxing, so probably no more than a few years old. Yes it's got (c) 1982 stamped on the tail! I'll have to somehow weave that into my Goerings Tempest/WIF story ETA just re-read, it's 1982. Is that the latest?
Edited by dr_gn on Tuesday 25th January 00:18
To be fair, I've made a lot of old tool Airfix kits over the last few years, so it's nothing out of the ordinary for me.
The Airfix Tempest is late 70s and is pretty sharp for a model of its time. And, as I keep reminding people, it's actually a Heller model in an Airfix box.
pacman1 said:
If it's a 70's Airfix kit, where's the rest of the blinkin' bits then? I'm sure there used to be more than 45!
It's a Heller kit - not an Airfix one.Between 1986 and 2006, Airfix and Heller were both owned by Humbrol and there was a policy of cross kitting each other's products.
Airfix and Heller split in 2006 (part of the fallout of the collapse of the Hunbrol holding company) but some ex-Heller kits seem to have carried on in Airfix boxes - the Tempest being one of them.
More progress today!
Tested out my new Dremel by removing the flap at the back of the radiator....
IMG_2046 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
...and drilling out the holes for the lamps (which are not even moulded onto the Revell kit.
IMG_2047 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
Started to use masking tape (cheapest I could find) to mask up the canopy. I find attaching the canopy prior to painting allows the paint to 'butt' up to the glass and removes some of those little gaps that can occur. It's also quite satisfying when removing the tape to see how it looks!
IMG_2053 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
Draw on the canopy frames, so that I can clearly see where to cut....
IMG_2055 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
... and remove the bits we want to paint.
IMG_2057 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
I've boxed inside the radiator to stop light bleed through, fashioned the round bit of pipe(?) which comes out of the back of the radiator and scratch built a flap from plasticard. I'm not too worried that it's a bit messy at the moment - I'm not sure you'll see much once the flap is in place.
IMG_2059 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
Here is everything done to date. Radiator ready to be completed, canopy masked up, most of the gaps filled, propeller received first rough coat of paint, gaps for lights drilled and tail wheel hole partially filled!
IMG_2058 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
Things to do :
Complete radiator.
Complete tail wheel bay.
Attach canopy.
Scratch build aerial.
Paint & decal & weather!
Difficult bits :
Work out how to finish off landing lamps.
Decide if foot step is only visible when plane is on ground.
Tested out my new Dremel
by removing the flap at the back of the radiator....IMG_2046 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
...and drilling out the holes for the lamps (which are not even moulded onto the Revell kit.
IMG_2047 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
Started to use masking tape (cheapest I could find) to mask up the canopy. I find attaching the canopy prior to painting allows the paint to 'butt' up to the glass and removes some of those little gaps that can occur. It's also quite satisfying when removing the tape to see how it looks!
IMG_2053 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
Draw on the canopy frames, so that I can clearly see where to cut....
IMG_2055 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
... and remove the bits we want to paint.
IMG_2057 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
I've boxed inside the radiator to stop light bleed through, fashioned the round bit of pipe(?) which comes out of the back of the radiator and scratch built a flap from plasticard. I'm not too worried that it's a bit messy at the moment - I'm not sure you'll see much once the flap is in place.
IMG_2059 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
Here is everything done to date. Radiator ready to be completed, canopy masked up, most of the gaps filled, propeller received first rough coat of paint, gaps for lights drilled and tail wheel hole partially filled!
IMG_2058 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr
Things to do :
Complete radiator.
Complete tail wheel bay.
Attach canopy.
Scratch build aerial.
Paint & decal & weather!
Difficult bits :
Work out how to finish off landing lamps.
Decide if foot step is only visible when plane is on ground.
Nice progress. I'm mired in the damned Resin Art cockpit set (which is anything but "Art", more DIY).
I think the foot step was retractable, so in flight it wouldn't be visible.
The underwing lights on the - port IIRC - wing had two smaller green and red lenses fitted behind the single clear cover. Worth double checking this. I've not put them on mine because the thick clear plastic lens distorted them too much. Couple of dots of paint might work.
Might also be worth checking on how the radiator flap was actuated, usually either a pair of pushrods or cables, which would probably be visible.
I think the foot step was retractable, so in flight it wouldn't be visible.
The underwing lights on the - port IIRC - wing had two smaller green and red lenses fitted behind the single clear cover. Worth double checking this. I've not put them on mine because the thick clear plastic lens distorted them too much. Couple of dots of paint might work.
Might also be worth checking on how the radiator flap was actuated, usually either a pair of pushrods or cables, which would probably be visible.
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