GB : Revell Tempest V : tangerine_sedge

GB : Revell Tempest V : tangerine_sedge

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tangerine_sedge

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219 months

Sunday 30th January 2011
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Any idea what to use for the light lens? I was thinking that loads of glue might be OK, and harden semi clear. Maybe consider a piece of clear plastic from a box lid or something?

Eric Mc

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266 months

Sunday 30th January 2011
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White PVA glue dries clear so a blob of that can be used sometimes to represent glass or perspex. There is a product called Kristal Kleer (it's American - hence the spelling smile) which is designed specially for this type of application. In reality, it is a thinned down PVA glue so normal household or craft PVA will do just as well.

tangerine_sedge

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Sunday 30th January 2011
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Eric Mc said:
White PVA glue dries clear so a blob of that can be used sometimes to represent glass or perspex. There is a product called Kristal Kleer (it's American - hence the spelling smile) which is designed specially for this type of application. In reality, it is a thinned down PVA glue so normal household or craft PVA will do just as well.
Excellent, I've got loads of PVA glue, I'd forgotten it dries clear.

Eric Mc

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Monday 31st January 2011
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I'd be tempted to thin it slightly as it sometimes can dry semi-opaque.

tangerine_sedge

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Monday 7th February 2011
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Little progress this week - I'm in the drudge of filling and sanding the many gaps on this model, and have to wait a couple of days for each layer of filler to harden fully before starting again. The Revell model really is a dreadful fit.

Whilst waiting for the filler to dry on the Tempest yesterday, I was able to pretty much build a new Airfix 109G to the point where it's ready for painting the fuselage. Not a single bit of filler has been required so far (might need a little under the nose where the wing section meets the fuselage).

tangerine_sedge

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Sunday 13th February 2011
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A little more progress (but no pictures)...

Attached cockpit canopy, but I have a feeling that I've got glue on the inside - can't tell until I remove the masking tape frown

Added the radiator detail, and finished filling & sanding (for now). Layed down some paint with a hairy stick, but needs a few more layers before it's ready to be shown.

tangerine_sedge

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Friday 25th February 2011
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Made good progress today, so find attached latest pictures...

Trying the PVC glue transparency trick - it seems to shrink when drying, so I've had to top it up several times...




here's the fully painted model with tape removed from transparency. As feared, some glue on the canopy (the first time in years I've done that frown But will look OK when hanging from the ceiling. Exhausts painted using Humbrol 55 (Copper), so will need weathering to tone down a little. The red strips on the wings cover the gun ports and in my whatif/story have been applied as the guns have been removed by the Germans.




Decals are stolen from the new Airfix 109g. They are nice and thin, but very shiny, so will need to be toned down somewhat.


IMG_2133 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr



Fully decaled, and ready for weathering.


IMG_2130 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr

The masked canopy has come out well, but the Revell paint I used is very thick - definitely needs thinning next time I use it. Unfortunately, no Swastikas in my spares box, so it will either go without or I'll try hand painting them 8o


IMG_2128 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr

Next steps are to tone down the glossy decals with matt varnish, and start thinking about weathering.


Eric Mc

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266 months

Friday 25th February 2011
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Very good.

dr_gn

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185 months

Friday 25th February 2011
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That looks very good.

You might consider re-masking the canopy, doing a bit of weathering and then overspraying the whole lot with matt or satin varnish. I think Humbrol or Tamiya might do an aerosol (but you'd have to be careful not to put it on too thick). Just a couple of mist coats would do the trick.

tangerine_sedge

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Tuesday 8th March 2011
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bugger - I've managed to over-weather the damn thing, so I'm currently trying to knock it back into a less worn look. Luckily there are still a few more days before the GB ends, so I might be able to recover this a little. Again - bugger!

For those who want the gory details - overdone the chipped paint effect, and applied a wash that's managed to go everywhere except in the panel lines frown

Oh well, it's the journey that's important not the destination.

perdu

4,884 posts

200 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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Sounds like bad luck

(do we get to see how it looks now, just as a practical "dont do this" sort of thingy?)

Over egging the weathering is one of the things that worries me about the trend to "weather and be damned" attitude I see around me when I go to Britmodeller

I will do a little and hope not to make it look wrong

dr_gn

16,169 posts

185 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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tangerine_sedge said:
bugger - I've managed to over-weather the damn thing, so I'm currently trying to knock it back into a less worn look. Luckily there are still a few more days before the GB ends, so I might be able to recover this a little. Again - bugger!

For those who want the gory details - overdone the chipped paint effect, and applied a wash that's managed to go everywhere except in the panel lines frown

Oh well, it's the journey that's important not the destination.
Easily done!

Re. the wash, it's raised detail on yours, so it won't work very well, if at all. When you've got recessed panel lines, just touch the end of a line with a lightly loaded brush and let capillary action do the rest. Don't cover the entire surface.

Eric Mc

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Tuesday 8th March 2011
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Promodeller washes work on raised detail kits as they don't just serve to darken panel lines but give a "worn" look to the overall airframe. I do use them from time to time but you need to be very careful in how much you apply, how much you wipe off and the texture of the surface to which they are applied. The glossier the surface, the more you can wipe away and the less worn the resultant finish will be.

dr_gn

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185 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Promodeller washes work on raised detail kits as they don't just serve to darken panel lines but give a "worn" look to the overall airframe. I do use them from time to time but you need to be very careful in how much you apply, how much you wipe off and the texture of the surface to which they are applied. The glossier the surface, the more you can wipe away and the less worn the resultant finish will be.
On raised rivets such as on this model, I wouldn't want to emphisise the already overscale surface detail with a wash at all.

I've gone off Promodeller washes. They're easy to use and low-risk (becasue they are fairly inert and you can wash them off with water), but they are far too grainy for 1:72 IMO.

MIG enamel washes give far more refined results, and if applied over acrylic can be removed almost completely with enamel thinners.

Eric Mc

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Tuesday 8th March 2011
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Being ex-Heller - I didn't spot much in the way of raised rivets on the Airfix Tempest. I agree about Promodeller though - and I only use it very sparingly now. I might give Mig a go at some point.

tangerine_sedge

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Tuesday 8th March 2011
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I refuse to show you guys smile

I made the cardinal error of thinking I could fix a small problem with more weathering... I've now learnt the error of my ways!

Holy double post batman!

dr_gn

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Tuesday 8th March 2011
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tangerine_sedge said:
I refuse to show you guys smile

I made the cardinal error of thinking I could fix a small problem with more weathering... I've now learnt the error of my ways!

Holy double post batman!
There is a "delete" button at the top!

tangerine_sedge

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Sunday 13th March 2011
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Well, I've managed to knock back some of the over weathering and feel it's OK to share these with you now wink

The supporting wire will be photo-edited out, some prop blur, and hopefully we'll get a tempest in flight shot!


IMG_2162 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr


I'm not entirely happy with the exhausts, maybe knock back the grey a little and add a little more soot?


IMG_2166 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr


I used Humbrol Matt Cote which seems to have given a Satin finish - go figure!


IMG_2170 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr


One of the German crosses on the top wing broke apart whilst adding Matt Cote, I almost managed to get it back into position.


IMG_2183 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr


Some staining from the wash has left marks around the edges of the transfers, I'll probably touch up with some more yellow paint before I consider this complete...


IMG_2180 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr



IMG_2178 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr


IMG_2174 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr

Still slightly over weathered on the props, might need to knock it back just a little...


IMG_2175 by tangerine_sedge, on Flickr

Almost complete, I don't know if I'll get time this week (I've got to rebuild my PC too!). Activities to complete :

Knock back some of the weathering affects.
Touch up the hairline fracture in the transfer.
Add aerial wire.
Find a more photogenic location - kitchen table looking a little shiny! Maybe hang it up from the ceiling with the other aeroplanes for a diorama.....

perdu

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200 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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I would take away some of the weathering on the props

nany propellors were a composite material rather than metal and I havent seen many that were badly marked TBH

I like the overall effect, shame the varnish went satin though.

Lucky to be able to get matt anyway, I am going to have to scour Brum for a decent model shop now I seem to be getting back into it, 'cos I cant get it locally at my local shop who has his heart in big flying about stuff.

You model looks nice, I like it and the concept of borrowed planes. As Eric will tell you we borrowed lots of them from the Axis during and after the war smile

What's next?

After sorting the pooter


Shar2

2,220 posts

214 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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She's looking great. Agree with knocking back the weathering on the prop though.