Clio 200 questions
Discussion
Technomatt said:
BadBanshee said:
The most hilarious part of this thread was going from page 4 to page 17 and finding the argument is still raging 
Hmmm, to get or not to get a Clio 200 Cup after having read what Technomat has to say about it. I wonder.
If you like it, buy it. Just run with the risk of the well proven gearbox failure.Hmmm, to get or not to get a Clio 200 Cup after having read what Technomat has to say about it. I wonder.
Or of course, you could also adopt that biased owner's head in the sand attitude so prevalent here. It's been a pleasure teasing it out
GrumpyTwig said:
Technomatt said:
BadBanshee said:
The most hilarious part of this thread was going from page 4 to page 17 and finding the argument is still raging
Hmmm, to get or not to get a Clio 200 Cup after having read what Technomat has to say about it. I wonder.
If you like it, buy it. Just run with the risk of the well proven gearbox failure.Hmmm, to get or not to get a Clio 200 Cup after having read what Technomat has to say about it. I wonder.
Or of course, you could also adopt that biased owner's head in the sand attitude so prevalent here. It's been a pleasure teasing it out
GrumpyTwig said:
deadmau5 said:
Technomatt said:
Grumpy Twig....... 'The Troll Hunter'
Are you a virgin?Technomatt said:
GrumpyTwig said:
deadmau5 said:
Technomatt said:
Grumpy Twig....... 'The Troll Hunter'
Are you a virgin?Edited by GrumpyTwig on Wednesday 31st July 22:17
GrumpyTwig said:
Technomatt said:
GrumpyTwig said:
deadmau5 said:
Technomatt said:
Grumpy Twig....... 'The Troll Hunter'
Are you a virgin?Edited by GrumpyTwig on Wednesday 31st July 22:17
Just a quick update and 16 more gearbox failures recorded over 4 months since the start of this thread (from 61 -77):
Technomatt said:
RacingBlue said:
Good God, is this still going on?
Sure is and reacting to a parallel continuous gearbox failure and ongoing enduring interest situation ..... No doubt that is great for your ego and we will all have to live with that but as it's giving us all a good laugh I guess we will manage.
Interesting thread....I will be flamed for this, but:
I just sold my Civic Type R at the weekend with 116K on the clock, never had ANY issues with stiff cold gearboxes, crunches, or any such nonsense. I know some can be notchy when cold, but not all of them.
I really want a Clio 200 and have since test driven a couple at the weekend. To be honest, coming from the EP3, I don't really know why they are so hyped up. They look fantastic and suspension set up is decent enough, but considering the cost hike over an older Civic I am not entirely convinced that they are worth the cash. Both were 2011 cars, both under 20k on the clock, both had a really stiff gear change. The second one I struggled to get into 1st, which to be fair probably was because it has been stood a while. However, after a reasonably long drive, was an absolute b
h to get into 6th. This cannot be normal. I know the Gear change on the CTR is pretty exceptional, and that Japanese cars are much better built than the french cars, but, for £10k (used) I would expect more from this little hatch, and after lusting after one for such a long time I was a little disappointed.
I actually think Techomatt has made many valid and sensible points, and seems to be getting a hard time for nothing. Clearly the gearboxes on these cars are not well designed and have a reasonably high rate of failure. Not sure why it's not accepted?
I do think I will buy one just because I like them, but confused why as car enthusiasts we cannot accept that this is obviously not normal behavior of a soundly functioning gearbox.
On a final note (we can all have a separate argument about this one!) I have looked at several 200's, and most have had replacement front tyres of a budget variety fitted. I cannot for the life of me understand why on earth you'd buy a high power front wheel drive hot hatch and then fit ste tyres - what IS the point?? If anyone mentions cost, why buy a 200 then in the first place?
I just sold my Civic Type R at the weekend with 116K on the clock, never had ANY issues with stiff cold gearboxes, crunches, or any such nonsense. I know some can be notchy when cold, but not all of them.
I really want a Clio 200 and have since test driven a couple at the weekend. To be honest, coming from the EP3, I don't really know why they are so hyped up. They look fantastic and suspension set up is decent enough, but considering the cost hike over an older Civic I am not entirely convinced that they are worth the cash. Both were 2011 cars, both under 20k on the clock, both had a really stiff gear change. The second one I struggled to get into 1st, which to be fair probably was because it has been stood a while. However, after a reasonably long drive, was an absolute b
h to get into 6th. This cannot be normal. I know the Gear change on the CTR is pretty exceptional, and that Japanese cars are much better built than the french cars, but, for £10k (used) I would expect more from this little hatch, and after lusting after one for such a long time I was a little disappointed. I actually think Techomatt has made many valid and sensible points, and seems to be getting a hard time for nothing. Clearly the gearboxes on these cars are not well designed and have a reasonably high rate of failure. Not sure why it's not accepted?
I do think I will buy one just because I like them, but confused why as car enthusiasts we cannot accept that this is obviously not normal behavior of a soundly functioning gearbox.
On a final note (we can all have a separate argument about this one!)
I have looked at several 200's, and most have had replacement front tyres of a budget variety fitted. I cannot for the life of me understand why on earth you'd buy a high power front wheel drive hot hatch and then fit ste tyres - what IS the point?? If anyone mentions cost, why buy a 200 then in the first place?Track_Cit said:
Interesting thread....I will be flamed for this, but:
I just sold my Civic Type R at the weekend with 116K on the clock, never had ANY issues with stiff cold gearboxes, crunches, or any such nonsense. I know some can be notchy when cold, but not all of them.
I really want a Clio 200 and have since test driven a couple at the weekend. To be honest, coming from the EP3, I don't really know why they are so hyped up. They look fantastic and suspension set up is decent enough, but considering the cost hike over an older Civic I am not entirely convinced that they are worth the cash. Both were 2011 cars, both under 20k on the clock, both had a really stiff gear change. The second one I struggled to get into 1st, which to be fair probably was because it has been stood a while. However, after a reasonably long drive, was an absolute bh to get into 6th. This cannot be normal. I know the Gear change on the CTR is pretty exceptional, and that Japanese cars are much better built than the french cars, but, for £10k (used) I would expect more from this little hatch, and after lusting after one for such a long time I was a little disappointed.
I actually think Techomatt has made many valid and sensible points, and seems to be getting a hard time for nothing. Clearly the gearboxes on these cars are not well designed and have a reasonably high rate of failure. Not sure why it's not accepted?
I do think I will buy one just because I like them, but confused why as car enthusiasts we cannot accept that this is obviously not normal behavior of a soundly functioning gearbox.
On a final note (we can all have a separate argument about this one!) I have looked at several 200's, and most have had replacement front tyres of a budget variety fitted. I cannot for the life of me understand why on earth you'd buy a high power front wheel drive hot hatch and then fit ste tyres - what IS the point?? If anyone mentions cost, why buy a 200 then in the first place?
Hello, I just sold my Civic Type R at the weekend with 116K on the clock, never had ANY issues with stiff cold gearboxes, crunches, or any such nonsense. I know some can be notchy when cold, but not all of them.
I really want a Clio 200 and have since test driven a couple at the weekend. To be honest, coming from the EP3, I don't really know why they are so hyped up. They look fantastic and suspension set up is decent enough, but considering the cost hike over an older Civic I am not entirely convinced that they are worth the cash. Both were 2011 cars, both under 20k on the clock, both had a really stiff gear change. The second one I struggled to get into 1st, which to be fair probably was because it has been stood a while. However, after a reasonably long drive, was an absolute b
h to get into 6th. This cannot be normal. I know the Gear change on the CTR is pretty exceptional, and that Japanese cars are much better built than the french cars, but, for £10k (used) I would expect more from this little hatch, and after lusting after one for such a long time I was a little disappointed. I actually think Techomatt has made many valid and sensible points, and seems to be getting a hard time for nothing. Clearly the gearboxes on these cars are not well designed and have a reasonably high rate of failure. Not sure why it's not accepted?
I do think I will buy one just because I like them, but confused why as car enthusiasts we cannot accept that this is obviously not normal behavior of a soundly functioning gearbox.
On a final note (we can all have a separate argument about this one!)
I have looked at several 200's, and most have had replacement front tyres of a budget variety fitted. I cannot for the life of me understand why on earth you'd buy a high power front wheel drive hot hatch and then fit ste tyres - what IS the point?? If anyone mentions cost, why buy a 200 then in the first place?I sold my 200 Cup about eight months ago after two years of faultless running. Regarding the gearbox, yes they are tight mine was stiff to get into gear when the car (gearbox) was cold. I soon got into the habit of block shifting through the box until it was warmed up. The box always felt nice and positive once the car was up-to temperature (not just the water temp gauge). I know what you are saying about Hondas having the clichéd 'rifle bolt' gear change and I have to agree (Owned a DC2 and DC5) but I though the Clio had a nice short positive throw albeit not as mechanical as the Hondas.
Can't help with 'why the bad tyres on the front' issue. Why buy a car thats main performance traits are to go round corners and stop well, only to take these away by adding LingLongs!
I also honestly think that these cars benefit from a bit of mechanical sympathy, especially when cold.
I guess once the Clio gets under you skin you get used to its quirks, great cars and probably the last manual N/A focused hatch to be made.
keo said:
I can't decide weather to go for a full fat with recaros and cup chassis or to get a cup. I can't see 40kg making much of a difference on a 1200kg car and prefer the colour coded side strips. Its doing my head in searching for one now.
It makes far less of a difference than the driver behind the wheel, but it's easy enough to get the door strips sprayed. I'd just find a car you like and is well looked after, ignore if it's FF or a cup.Sorry to bump this but if you are after an unabused and (practically) one mature(?!?) owner Cup then mine is for sale at the moment on Auto Trader. '12 plate, 14k miles, white, £9750ono.
Guess it depends on budget, its one of the last of the 2 litres anyway.
EDIT
And no gearbox issues here, its fine when cold or warm, no difference, its never needed to go into Renault for anything.
Guess it depends on budget, its one of the last of the 2 litres anyway.
EDIT
And no gearbox issues here, its fine when cold or warm, no difference, its never needed to go into Renault for anything.
GrumpyTwig said:
It makes far less of a difference than the driver behind the wheel, but it's easy enough to get the door strips sprayed. I'd just find a car you like and is well looked after, ignore if it's FF or a cup.
To update on this, I finally found a good one and bought it, but had to go to NI to do so! White Clio Cup 200, Recaros, Cup Chassis, no aircon, black rub strips. I actually prefer the look of this as the white rub strips kind of make the car look too white and it doesn't break up the lines if that makes sense. Personal preference I guess. It was owned by a Renault mechanic so it's pristine - very pleased. Not 100% sure it feels as fast as the EP3 but it handles a lot better and can carry much more speed on back roads. Good machine overall I am pleased. Also has an Akrapovic exhaust too which is a bonus, as they're about £1200! My thread is here if interested:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
tomvcarter said:
I'm on the hunt for a limited edition 200, what is the difference between the colour of this Silverstone edition and the earlier silver cars?
Is it a frozen silver like BMW do?
No, it was the same colour. Silverstone edition came with a gloss black roof, black alloys and cup pack as standard. Is it a frozen silver like BMW do?
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