Renaultsport Megane Cup S 275
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Got it. Spanked it round some local b roads. It's good, very good. I can only imagine how good the ohlins are. Returned 38-42mpg on the drive home.
There's still some evidence of tram lining on uneven country roads although in a straight line it's fine and doesn't move. Turned off all aids in sport mode and it got better. Reminds me of my old 1.6 clio gt which was best driven hard while ignoring whathe the rear end did.
Huge improvement over the focus which tried to kill you each time you even looked at the accelerator.
Happy days.
There's still some evidence of tram lining on uneven country roads although in a straight line it's fine and doesn't move. Turned off all aids in sport mode and it got better. Reminds me of my old 1.6 clio gt which was best driven hard while ignoring whathe the rear end did.
Huge improvement over the focus which tried to kill you each time you even looked at the accelerator.
Happy days.
MikeGoodwin said:
Got it. Spanked it round some local b roads. It's good, very good. I can only imagine how good the ohlins are. Returned 38-42mpg on the drive home.
There's still some evidence of tram lining on uneven country roads although in a straight line it's fine and doesn't move. Turned off all aids in sport mode and it got better. Reminds me of my old 1.6 clio gt which was best driven hard while ignoring whathe the rear end did.
Huge improvement over the focus which tried to kill you each time you even looked at the accelerator.
Happy days.
Sport mode is only everything backed off a bit, to disengage all the nannies you have to hold the button in. Though I wouldn't advise that on the road tbh. Not saying you'd instantly bin it but they over-steer very easily!There's still some evidence of tram lining on uneven country roads although in a straight line it's fine and doesn't move. Turned off all aids in sport mode and it got better. Reminds me of my old 1.6 clio gt which was best driven hard while ignoring whathe the rear end did.
Huge improvement over the focus which tried to kill you each time you even looked at the accelerator.
Happy days.
Problem is finding a car to replace these things
Just setting off on a fish and chips run to Whitby with the kids. Going the longer way to clock up some extra miles. That plus the run down to the Renault Sport day at Bedford on Tuesday should see it nicely run in just in time for a good track hammering 
Will be interesting to see how the standard suspension and brakes cope. And too see what state the tyres will be in after a few sessions. All stock. Im hoping theyll cope, going to a Nurburgring track day next week, could do without having to modify the car before the trip.
Will be interesting to see how the standard suspension and brakes cope. And too see what state the tyres will be in after a few sessions. All stock. Im hoping theyll cope, going to a Nurburgring track day next week, could do without having to modify the car before the trip.
foxsasha said:
Just setting off on a fish and chips run to Whitby with the kids. Going the longer way to clock up some extra miles. That plus the run down to the Renault Sport day at Bedford on Tuesday should see it nicely run in just in time for a good track hammering
Will be interesting to see how the standard suspension and brakes cope. And too see what state the tyres will be in after a few sessions. All stock. Im hoping theyll cope, going to a Nurburgring track day next week, could do without having to modify the car before the trip.
I wouldn't worry about the Ring, it's not hard on brakes and tyres, what with so many cooling opportunities.Will be interesting to see how the standard suspension and brakes cope. And too see what state the tyres will be in after a few sessions. All stock. Im hoping theyll cope, going to a Nurburgring track day next week, could do without having to modify the car before the trip.
We'll see you on Tuesday. Bedford is very hard on tyres/brakes but there is always ways of working round the limitations. Feel free to pax with me if you want a feel for what upgrades can do.
nickfrog said:
I wouldn't worry about the Ring, it's not hard on brakes and tyres, what with so many cooling opportunities.
We'll see you on Tuesday. Bedford is very hard on tyres/brakes but there is always ways of working round the limitations. Feel free to pax with me if you want a feel for what upgrades can do.
Thanks We'll see you on Tuesday. Bedford is very hard on tyres/brakes but there is always ways of working round the limitations. Feel free to pax with me if you want a feel for what upgrades can do.
I'll see how the car copes on Tuesday (if it's dry). If it struggles then I'll improve it, don't want to have to hold back in Germany, it's too expensive a trip to not enjoy it fully . Pads and fluid isn't a big deal I am hoping the brakes will be ok with the car running stock tyres and that Renault fitted pads that are vaguely reasonable on track in a car of that type. If I can get away with the car as is at Bedford and the Ring then when it gets back I'll treat it to a set of forged rims with Michelin Cup 2s, Ohlins, KSports all round with Pagid pads and some Recaros.
nickfrog said:
Hi Jon. So far so good. No fade at Spa in sessions of 8 laps, most of them at 9/10ths or more. BUT, predictably, high wear - the front pads (PFC Z) will do Bedford Tuesday but maybe not much more track work. No deposits at the front though, which is great and confirm that the set up is fine for my use and the tyres.
Deposit at the rear though as the small pads on solid discs have proportionally got a lot of heat dissipation what with the grippy tyres and the stiff suspension.
In other words, the rear pads have overheated despite ESP off. They may survive Bedford.
Front tyres OK with only slight outer shoulder damage as predicted. They take too long to heat up but they are very stable when there. 1.9 bars cold stabilising at 2.6. I understand the 120 version of the NS2Rs heat up quicker and might actually be a better choice unless you do very long sessions, which I won't do because of (eventual) brakes limitations.
Not sure you've seen the other pics http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Are you there on Tuesday at Bedford ?
Good conclusion overall then. I'm finding the paid rs29 very good in the m3. 4 trackdays and hard road use and loads left. Can't make Tuesday despite the invite from the dealers. I'm on holiday in Devon. Away a lot over the ne t month but will try and squeeze something in hopefully. I'm yet to buy tyres for my spare set and I'm spending like its going out of fashion. Bonus is that mutual friends we are away with work at Michelin and should be able to get me a good discount on some cup 2s. If not I'll go for the nankangs and put some pagid rs29 pads in. Might be the autumn after I've got over our 4 weeks holiday bill, albeit in blighty! I'll have a look at your other pics.Deposit at the rear though as the small pads on solid discs have proportionally got a lot of heat dissipation what with the grippy tyres and the stiff suspension.
In other words, the rear pads have overheated despite ESP off. They may survive Bedford.
Front tyres OK with only slight outer shoulder damage as predicted. They take too long to heat up but they are very stable when there. 1.9 bars cold stabilising at 2.6. I understand the 120 version of the NS2Rs heat up quicker and might actually be a better choice unless you do very long sessions, which I won't do because of (eventual) brakes limitations.
Not sure you've seen the other pics http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Are you there on Tuesday at Bedford ?
Edited by nickfrog on Saturday 30th July 12:35
Would be interested in your experience with RS29s in the Megane. I ran them in our 330 MSports (340+ mm front discs) and had massive vibration as they got hot. Vibration completely dissapeared when cold, reappeared when hot. The hotter the brakes, the worse the vibration. Perfect when next cold. Strange. Think it was a disc issue rather than pad problem, we have run loads of Pagids previously but always with big brake kits, not with standard brakes. Never had an issue before. Fitted KSports all round to the BMW with Pagids and now you can brake as hard as you like, the car just stops but it's an extreme remedy!
Based on the French Meganers.net site which is a good source of info given the numbers of RS owners tracking their car there, the std pads are just about fine for the road but overheat very quickly on track. They are Brembo's entry level road pads dual branded with a Renault logo, will post a pic.
I strongly recommend Performance Friction Z-Rated as a road legal alternative that will also take a lot of track punishment without fade (coupled with a decent fluid like Motul 600).
I strongly recommend Performance Friction Z-Rated as a road legal alternative that will also take a lot of track punishment without fade (coupled with a decent fluid like Motul 600).
Edited by nickfrog on Monday 1st August 10:07
Best get some more pads ordered then. And let the missus drive (her car) for most of tomorrow 
Whilst I agree Performance Friction are excellent (I've used them a lot previously all be them 01s) for various reasons I'll stick with Pagids.
EDIT: Are the pads same as any other model/year? Pagid dont list anything for this car. Are they this shape for the fronts? This is from the earlier 04 to 09 Brembo equipped Meganes
Whilst I agree Performance Friction are excellent (I've used them a lot previously all be them 01s) for various reasons I'll stick with Pagids. EDIT: Are the pads same as any other model/year? Pagid dont list anything for this car. Are they this shape for the fronts? This is from the earlier 04 to 09 Brembo equipped Meganes
Edited by foxsasha on Monday 1st August 11:15
Best get some more pads ordered then. And let the missus drive (her car) for most of tomorrow Whilst I agree Performance Friction are excellent (I've used them a lot previously all be them 01s) for various reasons I'll stick with Pagids.
Whilst I agree Performance Friction are excellent (I've used them a lot previously all be them 01s) for various reasons I'll stick with Pagids. Edited by foxsasha on Wednesday 3rd August 21:28
I've just gone for DS2500S all round. Could only get race compound in the PF for the rear and figure that the Ferodo will probably be a match for the Z Rated as they're both road legal so are never going to be brilliant. Dont have time to mess about researching fitment, got to set off to Bedford. They'll be fine for the European trip.
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