C Crosser fault codes

C Crosser fault codes

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cps13

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253 posts

182 months

Tuesday 17th January 2017
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Hi,

A little while ago the ASC turned off on my C Crosser and a warning came up saying that it needs checking.

I have plugged in a generic OBDII scanner today (ELM327 and EasyOBDII) in initially came up with these 3 fault codes:

P1351 - linked to glow plugs
P1434 - linked to fuel cap sensor
P2408 - linked to additive sensor

I cleared these codes and the following came back

P1434
P2408

After a bit of reading people are saying that these are related to the additive tank sensor and the fuel cap sensor. Now I know there is a problem with the additive tank sensor, I know this because it is missing! I accidentally smashed the tank into the ground whilst driving in some woods, but this happened about 3 years ago, and the ASC turned off about 3 months ago. I took the car to Citroen at the time of damaging the tank and they said it would be £350 to fix but if I was them, don't bother, so I didn't.

Does anybody know if any of these codes may link to this ASC fault?

Cheers

megamaniac

1,057 posts

216 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Your scanner will probably only read the engine management ,you need to find someone with a Lexia or buy one yourself.

bearman68

4,652 posts

132 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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As above - the codes you have read are historical engine management codes. These are called OBD2 codes, - a legal requirement for diesels from 2004.
The ABS is a completely different system - not usually readable from a cheapish OBD reader. You will need more sophisticated kit to read the ABS system.
Whereabouts in the world are you? I'll read them for you if you're close enough.

Cheers

cps13

Original Poster:

253 posts

182 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Thanks for the offer. I'm in Southampton, is that anywhere near?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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megamaniac said:
Your scanner will probably only read the engine management ,you need to find someone with a Lexia or buy one yourself.
With a C-Crosser, it wouldn't surprise me if it required Mitsubishi diagnostic kit - it's just a rebadged Outlander with a PSA HDi, built in Japan.

bearman68

4,652 posts

132 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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cps13 said:
Thanks for the offer. I'm in Southampton, is that anywhere near?
20 mins Welsh side of the Severn bridge. Sounds too far for me, but the offer is still there.

megamaniac

1,057 posts

216 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
With a C-Crosser, it wouldn't surprise me if it required Mitsubishi diagnostic kit - it's just a rebadged Outlander with a PSA HDi, built in Japan.
My lexia has it,i'm too far away top be of any help though.

cps13

Original Poster:

253 posts

182 months

Thursday 2nd February 2017
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Hi all,

thanks for the offers of the scanner.

I got a mechanic round in the end, very nice guy called Matt who comes to your house - I would be happy to recommend him to someone in the southampton area if ever needed, he actually owns a C-Crosser too!

It turned out in the end to be the ABS pressure sensor housed within the pump, he tested the pump and HCU independently and it all functioned correctly. Going to chat to ACtronics and BBA Reman to see how much getting the sensor repaired will cost.

Apparently it is a common-ish problem with these bosch pumps as the fragile wires in the sensor break after a while.

bearman68

4,652 posts

132 months

Thursday 2nd February 2017
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Replacement used unit - unplug the ECU, remove it from the hydraulics, and bolt it back on - configure it, and sorted. Don't need to remove the hydraulics, and therefore bleed the system.

cps13

Original Poster:

253 posts

182 months

Thursday 2nd February 2017
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bearman68 said:
Replacement used unit - unplug the ECU, remove it from the hydraulics, and bolt it back on - configure it, and sorted. Don't need to remove the hydraulics, and therefore bleed the system.
I don't understand how you wouldn't need to bleed it?

cheers