Clio 172 Homemade strut brace transforms the handling :)

Clio 172 Homemade strut brace transforms the handling :)

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rb5230

11,657 posts

172 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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excellent mod, treemendous.

Swervin_Mervin

4,452 posts

238 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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oakdale said:
Now we have established that this is not a wind up, can I point out that this 'masterpiece' of engineering is attached (well sort of) to the strut top mounting cup and not the body as it should be.
The top of the strut needs to change angle relative to the body as the suspension moves up and down, due to the changing arc of the lower suspension arm.
If this 'strut brace' has any strength (which I doubt) it will have caused your cars front strut piston rods to bend.

Edited by oakdale on Saturday 4th July 22:28
Can't believe this hasn't been picked up by anyone else!

What you've missed is that it's mounted to the strut's top nut, which is a one piece doughnut shaped thing with the nut in the centre. The whole top nut rotates when steering so you wuldn't actually manage to turn the wheel.

Ergo it can only be a wind up.

Conian

8,030 posts

201 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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I'm thinking of setting up a business making breast implants of the same material.

That'd be a commercial success wooden tit?

oakdale

1,803 posts

202 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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Swervin_Mervin said:
oakdale said:
Now we have established that this is not a wind up, can I point out that this 'masterpiece' of engineering is attached (well sort of) to the strut top mounting cup and not the body as it should be.
The top of the strut needs to change angle relative to the body as the suspension moves up and down, due to the changing arc of the lower suspension arm.
If this 'strut brace' has any strength (which I doubt) it will have caused your cars front strut piston rods to bend.

Edited by oakdale on Saturday 4th July 22:28
Can't believe this hasn't been picked up by anyone else!

What you've missed is that it's mounted to the strut's top nut, which is a one piece doughnut shaped thing with the nut in the centre. The whole top nut rotates when steering so you wuldn't actually manage to turn the wheel.

Ergo it can only be a wind up.
The strut top nut and piston rod does not turn, that's why there's a bearing under the strut mounting for the spring top cup to rorate on.

TheDetailDoctor

8,779 posts

210 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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Jez O said:
Can I go against the grain and say this is an excellent thread! I am currently working on some brake discs made from velour. If anyone's interested. Don't F1 cars have a plank of wood underneath..............
Surely velcro would be a better bet.

hewlett

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2,186 posts

221 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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Good news, an aluminium strut brace is on it's way from Germany following this successful 'trial'. Pics to follow.

y2blade

56,108 posts

215 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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hewlett said:
Good news, an aluminium strut brace is on it's way from Germany following this successful 'trial'. Pics to follow.
Treeemendous news


getmecoat



hewlett

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2,186 posts

221 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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Been pining for one for ages, tempted to leaf it as is...

y2blade

56,108 posts

215 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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hewlett said:
Been pining for one for ages, tempted to leaf it as is...
you will probably get "wood" over it when you open the box....


Swervin_Mervin

4,452 posts

238 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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oakdale said:
Swervin_Mervin said:
oakdale said:
Now we have established that this is not a wind up, can I point out that this 'masterpiece' of engineering is attached (well sort of) to the strut top mounting cup and not the body as it should be.
The top of the strut needs to change angle relative to the body as the suspension moves up and down, due to the changing arc of the lower suspension arm.
If this 'strut brace' has any strength (which I doubt) it will have caused your cars front strut piston rods to bend.

Edited by oakdale on Saturday 4th July 22:28
Can't believe this hasn't been picked up by anyone else!

What you've missed is that it's mounted to the strut's top nut, which is a one piece doughnut shaped thing with the nut in the centre. The whole top nut rotates when steering so you wuldn't actually manage to turn the wheel.

Ergo it can only be a wind up.
The strut top nut and piston rod does not turn, that's why there's a bearing under the strut mounting for the spring top cup to rorate on.
It does on mk1/mk2 Clio. Believe me.

The top spring cup is held on with a circlip (older models) or very thin nut (newer models). On top of this sits a bearing. On top of the bearing sits a big fat rubber doughnout. This assembly then sits inside the strut tower of the car's body. Then the one-piece topnut/doughnut is screwed directly to the top of the damper piston rod.

As the hub is turned, it turns the whole damper assembly to which it is directly attached, rotating on the bearing between it and the big fat rubber doughnut. So whilst the piston rod doesn't rotate within the damper, it does rotate along with the damper unit. As the top nut is bolted to the piston road, it also turns.

wink

TheDetailDoctor

8,779 posts

210 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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So if this is a sucess, will you ne branching out into other timber based mods. Leaf springs for example. Or will you keep you roots in strut braces.

Edited by TheDetailDoctor on Wednesday 24th February 11:49

HeavySoul

9,218 posts

219 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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hewlett said:
You read my mind, there will be a button on the website called:

'Woodenise', basically just click on it and you'll see a form, describe your fabrication requirements and our Master Craftspersons will create whatever wooden object you require.


Wood, the possibilities are limited.
hehe

nobodyknows

12,044 posts

169 months

Sunday 27th June 2010
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you must be barking up the wrong tree there surely

Defcon5

6,184 posts

191 months

Sunday 27th June 2010
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You bumped a 4 month old thread for that?

Emubiker

951 posts

180 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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Defcon5 said:
You bumped a 4 month old thread for that?
Think you'll find its a year old thread, it just gets a ump every few months or so, then more people comment for a while then dissapears off the scale again.