Sorry...tyres again

Sorry...tyres again

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DavidLScott

Original Poster:

1,048 posts

224 months

Friday 13th June 2014
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Car: 2005 JCW currently on 205/45/17 runflats and am looking to change to non RFT. No suspension or wheel changes or planned either.
Driving: A & B roads in SE England, very little motorway or dual carriageway work.
I like a blat but I'm not a fast driver as I need my licence and health but enjoy a 'spirited' drive.
I tend to use my X3 in winter or if really wet.

When I recently bought the car it had mismatched rears and one is on borderline tread depth and the other doesn't appear to be available to match so I am in for two tyres anyway.
I tend to use eTyres as they come to my home to fit and that is very useful. I also hate the tyre fitting companies as all they do is wreck rims.
In a conversation with them, they have recommended Kumho KU39 as a replacement but in non-RFT form. They would be a year round tyre.

Anyone know anything about these tyres?
Or any other suggestions.

NormanD

3,208 posts

228 months

Friday 13th June 2014
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I've just referbe'd my 17" wheel and fitted standard tyres

I much prefer Toyo Proxes T1-Rs and get them from www.oponeo.co.uk and
get them fitted localy for £10 each by in Independant tyre company

I have infact gone up a couple of sizes, just misses the wheel arches
The size fitted now is 225/45 x 17

The ride and handeling is much better

The speedo is now 100% as an added bonus



Edited by NormanD on Friday 13th June 13:24

roystinho

3,767 posts

175 months

Friday 13th June 2014
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I'd go for Michelin Super Sports every time. Good wear and brilliant grip in wet and dry

http://www.clickontyres.co.uk/buy-tyres-online/pro...

DavidLScott

Original Poster:

1,048 posts

224 months

Friday 13th June 2014
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Thanks guys.

Just had a less quick tread check and I've still got a short while left, so, unless the MOT man doesn't like them for some reason,iI don't have to rush too much so will do a full research and probably get 20 different recommendations form 20 posters smile.

rigga

8,728 posts

201 months

Friday 13th June 2014
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Hankook ventus v12 evo
Great grip wet or dry on my fjcw.

mneame

1,484 posts

211 months

Friday 13th June 2014
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Yoko Parada Spec II on mine. Great in the dry, not so much in the wet though.

DavidLScott

Original Poster:

1,048 posts

224 months

Friday 13th June 2014
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I'm going to disappoint you all....my wife drives the car a fair bit and, having got home safely on RFTs at least three times over the years in her Cooper, she is reluctant to lose the security.

As I owe her a lifetime of brownie points, I am not going to argue. At least once I was away on a golf trip and she survived the week on the flat tyre so I will bow to her request.

It's not the end of the world as I don't do so many miles now and the RFTs are just about bearable.
I'll put a new pair of Dunlop SP 01s on the back to match the front.

Thanks for the info anyway - may still be useful later wink

Pip1968

1,348 posts

204 months

Saturday 21st June 2014
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I have run flats on my wife's Mini for the same reason. One time she thought that she had reset the tyre pressure monitor but actually she had switched it off and driven around on 20 psi for a couple of weeks.

"It's flat darling"
"Ooh I thought it was difficult to turn the steering wheel"

Enough said.

Pip

Rakoosh

347 posts

170 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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I just bought a s/h mini JCW convertible... I've not pushed it too hard but I found it a bit squirmy on the front tyres when coming out of a corner (and to be fair a little heavy on the power).

The fronts are hancook run flats and the back I forget the brand.

Is it possibly the tyres or my poor driving ? Note: I am coming from an Elise which was pretty much perfect and driving the same manner...

(don't worry I won't be offended if you say its my driving - the more driving tuition I've had the more I realise I could use more).

As an aside does anyone run toyo r1rs on a mini here?

mike9009

6,996 posts

243 months

Sunday 6th July 2014
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Rakoosh said:
I just bought a s/h mini JCW convertible... I've not pushed it too hard but I found it a bit squirmy on the front tyres when coming out of a corner (and to be fair a little heavy on the power).

The fronts are hancook run flats and the back I forget the brand.

Is it possibly the tyres or my poor driving ? Note: I am coming from an Elise which was pretty much perfect and driving the same manner...

(don't worry I won't be offended if you say its my driving - the more driving tuition I've had the more I realise I could use more).

As an aside does anyone run toyo r1rs on a mini here?
Hi

Welcome to MINI ownership!

I came from various mid engine RWD motors (MR2, Smart Roadster and VX220) and had exactly the same issue as you describe. Firstly I had an R53 MCS and now have an R55 MCS. (you don't mention which year model you have, but the later turbo cars exhibit this characteristic far more). The power through the driven wheels is causing this. In the Elise you either went through the corner neutrally or had a little over-steer when the power was too much. It was probably fairly easy to correct.

So in summary, it is your driving matched with FWD. Just ease the power in through the corner.

The tyres 'maybe' having some bearing on it. What tread depth do you have left?

Have fun...;)

Mike

DavidLScott

Original Poster:

1,048 posts

224 months

Sunday 6th July 2014
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It seems we all hate trying to sort out tyres.

For info, I have had the Dunlop Sp 01 RFTs all round on now for about 200 miles and I am stunned at how the crashiness has reduced so dramatically.
It's not non RFT smooth but certainly much more tolerable.

Rakoosh

347 posts

170 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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Hi there and thanks!

Went for a long drive yesterday evening and yes I think I am a bit too aggressive as I think I am putting the power down before getting to the exit point? But that's part of the fun right ? wink

And there is quite a lot of power in the jcw! Not far off my elise (I had the sc there ).

The elise just felt perfect in every respect but then I had great tyres on it too.

It's an '05 so supercharged rather than turbo.

But it really is a fun car! Will never compare to the elise in some respects but bags more practical (hey relative world! ) and the question will I enjoy driving it for the sake of driving was answered last night as I did exactly that!

Not a bad little car at all!


The tyres have plenty of depth - I wonder how it would feel with non run flats and I'd love to stick r1rs on as they were tyres I liked on the elise


Edit some people make it too look easy!

http://youtu.be/4ZN1aP1o_m8

mike9009 said:
Hi

Welcome to MINI ownership!

I came from various mid engine RWD motors (MR2, Smart Roadster and VX220) and had exactly the same issue as you describe. Firstly I had an R53 MCS and now have an R55 MCS. (you don't mention which year model you have, but the later turbo cars exhibit this characteristic far more). The power through the driven wheels is causing this. In the Elise you either went through the corner neutrally or had a little over-steer when the power was too much. It was probably fairly easy to correct.

So in summary, it is your driving matched with FWD. Just ease the power in through the corner.

The tyres 'maybe' having some bearing on it. What tread depth do you have left?

Have fun...;)

Mike
Edited by Rakoosh on Monday 7th July 20:31

NormanD

3,208 posts

228 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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Rakoosh said:
I wonder how it would feel with non run flats and I'd love to stick r1rs on as they were tyres I liked on the elise
I'm running Proxes T1-Rs on my Mini

mike9009

6,996 posts

243 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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Rakoosh said:
Edited by Rakoosh on Monday 7th July 20:31
Hi

Glad you are enjoying it. I sounded a little cocky in my earlier post. I am NOT a driving god and I am very far away from ever being one smilesmile.

I really miss my VX220 too (over ten years since I owned mine!), but with kids and a wife now, the MINI acts as my little bit of fun.

Mike

mneame

1,484 posts

211 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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NormanD said:
I've just referbe'd my 17" wheel and fitted standard tyres

I much prefer Toyo Proxes T1-Rs and get them from www.oponeo.co.uk and
get them fitted localy for £10 each by in Independant tyre company

I have infact gone up a couple of sizes, just misses the wheel arches
The size fitted now is 225/45 x 17

The ride and handeling is much better

The speedo is now 100% as an added bonus



Edited by NormanD on Friday 13th June 13:24
Are you running standard suspension? Do you ever have anyone in the back? It's time for new tyres for me and there's a load more choice in this size. Just concerned with rubbing.

NormanD

3,208 posts

228 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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mneame said:
Are you running standard suspension? Do you ever have anyone in the back? It's time for new tyres for me and there's a load more choice in this size. Just concerned with rubbing.
Yes standard suspention

I don't have anyone in the back, although I did have a spair set of wheels and tyres in the back with the seats down

The rear tyres just cought the plastic a couple of times but not enough to do any damage

mneame

1,484 posts

211 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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NormanD said:
Yes standard suspention

I don't have anyone in the back, although I did have a spair set of wheels and tyres in the back with the seats down

The rear tyres just cought the plastic a couple of times but not enough to do any damage
Cheers. I have 2 kids so might cause a few more issues for me frown

CarsOrBikes

1,135 posts

184 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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I currently have 215/45/17 Federal 595 RSR's, thought worth a try, good reviews from people that push them very hard, or track them quite heavily, including friends, and have sat as passenger for testing. Quite some potential I thought. Under £80 ea. Slightly larger and look so much better.

Huge positive difference, harshness in particular, and handling is nice. Very slight drone, but far superior to rock hard rft's. Tried Dunlop sp01, Pirelli euphoria, firestone, the car runs less wide out of normal bends when wanting to use less braking before the turn in, not necessarily just when warm either. Speedo closer too. My car has an LSD, so they may suit it even better. It's a hoot for sure when in the right circumstances, I can keep my foot in when used to letting go.

They may not last quite as long, but tyres are always a compromise, look at the tread wear indicator, the lower the number, the softer they are. The fed's are 140, the same as Bridgestone RE040's which are original equipment on my A4 Avant

It's a shame people can't buy tyres, or filter the options based on this tiny number, budget ditch finders can be around 340 or more

If you use the X3 for wet and winter, you may be pleased with a contrast.