Thinking of buying this...advice please!!

Thinking of buying this...advice please!!

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FrankCayman

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2,121 posts

213 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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Thinking of buying this as a 'station' car to take the miles off my Cayman (now the new ones are going to be 4 cyl turbo, I want to hang on to my 6cyl as long as possible!!!).

Who would you suggest to replace the engine and roughly how much would it cost?

Cheers

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-Cooper-S-2007-Astro...

NCKGRY

5 posts

110 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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I have just looked into engine rebuilds due to failure of my timing chain on my JCW - a very common fault on the turbo engines. The upside of this is there are lots of rebuilders repairing N14 engines and a I have seen quotes for a refurbished engine fitted from around £2.5k to over £6k if you get an engine from BMW.

Because of the timing chain failures - which potentially write off the engine - avoid 'used' engines and very carefully check what has been done to the refurbished units and get a decent warranty on the rebuild (none of this 3 month rubbish!). Alternatively find a non-turbo Cooper or an earlier or later model without the poorly designed N14 engine!

BTW - totally agree with you on Porsche! Am hoping to nurse my flat six Boxster into old age rather then go the flat 4 turbo route - although I must confess I haven't driven one!

Brompty

153 posts

144 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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I have to ask - why this one in particular? Its broken already.

Get an R53 engine - described as bullet proof by some. The R56 has many well documented problems and I think a replacement engine will just be the start of your journey with this car (the advert states, 'It has recently had a new turbo and clutch and the head gasket was replaced last year.' And the windscreen is cracked. The colour is nice though...). Walk away.

If you just want a car for the station, get a One or Cooper. If you want fun get a Cooper S. Any of these options will be better than this one and will cost far less in the short, medium and long term.

Brompty

153 posts

144 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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I have just re-read my submission and it now appears I am suggesting putting an R53 engine in this car. No, just don't buy this one and get the previous model

FrankCayman

Original Poster:

2,121 posts

213 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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NCKGRY said:
I have just looked into engine rebuilds due to failure of my timing chain on my JCW - a very common fault on the turbo engines. The upside of this is there are lots of rebuilders repairing N14 engines and a I have seen quotes for a refurbished engine fitted from around £2.5k to over £6k if you get an engine from BMW.

Because of the timing chain failures - which potentially write off the engine - avoid 'used' engines and very carefully check what has been done to the refurbished units and get a decent warranty on the rebuild (none of this 3 month rubbish!). Alternatively find a non-turbo Cooper or an earlier or later model without the poorly designed N14 engine!

BTW - totally agree with you on Porsche! Am hoping to nurse my flat six Boxster into old age rather then go the flat 4 turbo route - although I must confess I haven't driven one!
Many thanks for your comprehensive response....food for thought....and glad somebody else feels the same re the 4 pot Porsches...though like you...not driven one yet!!!

Anyway, many thanks again

Frank

FrankCayman

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2,121 posts

213 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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Brompty said:
I have to ask - why this one in particular? Its broken already.

Get an R53 engine - described as bullet proof by some. The R56 has many well documented problems and I think a replacement engine will just be the start of your journey with this car (the advert states, 'It has recently had a new turbo and clutch and the head gasket was replaced last year.' And the windscreen is cracked. The colour is nice though...). Walk away.

If you just want a car for the station, get a One or Cooper. If you want fun get a Cooper S. Any of these options will be better than this one and will cost far less in the short, medium and long term.
Indeed Brompty, I am starting to come around to that way of thinking. I guess I was seduced by the look of this car.....but I do concur....replacing a unreliable engine with a new unreliable engine is rather...um...unreliable!

Appreciate your thoughts

Yours, Frank

Brompty

153 posts

144 months

Saturday 13th February 2016
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FrankCayman said:
Indeed Brompty, I am starting to come around to that way of thinking. I guess I was seduced by the look of this car.....but I do concur....replacing a unreliable engine with a new unreliable engine is rather...um...unreliable!

Appreciate your thoughts

Yours, Frank
Atta-boy, come one, walk away, walk away....

I bought an R53 MCS in November. It took a lot of looking to get a good one, but I love it. It was a bit of a handful with run-flat tyres, but a change to non-run-flats have transformed it. If you got it for a station car, you will taking the long way home just for the fun of it.

eatcustard

1,003 posts

127 months

Tuesday 16th February 2016
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Do as others have said, buy an R53 MCS, its a much better drivers car and the supercharger wine is addictive.

mikey P 500

1,239 posts

187 months

Tuesday 16th February 2016
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Disagree with all the buy a r53 comments, yeah a r56 does have a few engine issues but they can be fixed for a few hundred and while working the turbo is a far faster and a better car than the r53. In terms of the example the OP has shared, I would already be thinking bidding is about as high as its worth given the cost of sourcing and fitting an engine into a car that's already covered 117k miles isn't going to have a very high value even when done. (I also have an astro black r56 jcw that's covered just 40k miles and guess its value is about the same as this plus £4kish which would be the cost of fixing this one with a rebuilt engine).

dubbs

1,588 posts

284 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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R53 is an absolute hoot - supercharger whining away as you're catapulted up the road is addictive and huge huge fun.

FrankCayman

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2,121 posts

213 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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Well, it went for £2,450.00, so clearly somebody thought it was worth a punt!

Me? I will just add a few more miles on the 981 until something pops up.......

Your comments are all appreciated.....many thanks, gents!