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Anyone else fancy keeping a running log of our favourite county highway potholes here?
Sort of brief location description, date of reporting (if can be bothered), and date any attempt at repair actually occurs etc... see if we can shame the buggers into upping their woeful game. if damage has been incurred, post that up too and the value!
I'll start you off with a wheel swallowing crater in the centre of Grafton Underwood - reported 30 Jan (I think) - been painted a week, paint now wearing off, no fix yet...
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Sort of brief location description, date of reporting (if can be bothered), and date any attempt at repair actually occurs etc... see if we can shame the buggers into upping their woeful game. if damage has been incurred, post that up too and the value!
I'll start you off with a wheel swallowing crater in the centre of Grafton Underwood - reported 30 Jan (I think) - been painted a week, paint now wearing off, no fix yet...
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Good idea, but I don't think there is enough space on the P H server to list them all. As for shaming the buggers, that is impossible as they have no shame.
T junction in Brixworth, just 200 yrds from the main Highways depot in the county, so potholed nearly impossible to drive around.
T junction in Brixworth, just 200 yrds from the main Highways depot in the county, so potholed nearly impossible to drive around.
And trending today is the fine collection of carbuncles and craters being lovingly nurtured and grown on the A14 J11 elevated min roundabout serving the east bound carriageway, at Cranford. Neglect for another month guys and should be completely impassable to anthing less than a moto-crosser... top effort!
I do the A43 stretch between Northampton-B4525 daily. Westbound doesn't seem too bad, but heading east is an absolute shocker. There's craters and heavy dips all over. Slow lane seems to be the worst, and there's one particularly bad one just before the first of the Towcester roundabouts on the left hand side of the slow lane. You can avoid it in a car by sticking to the right of the lane, but wagons hit it and nearly every one virtually takes off and swerves, hitting it in a car is very dangerous IMO.
Talking of which the B4525 isn't great either, but you can avoid if you see them early enough (and its a B-road, so kinda expect it nowadays anyway).
Talking of which the B4525 isn't great either, but you can avoid if you see them early enough (and its a B-road, so kinda expect it nowadays anyway).
Ambleton said:
...hitting it in a car is very dangerous IMO...
You want to try it on a motorbike! There's a huge one on the A43 e/bound between lanes 1 & 2 somewhere not long after joining from the B4525 too, I clattered into it as I moved out to overtake a car. It took my breath (and 'nads) away!
Pupp said:
And trending today is the fine collection of carbuncles and craters being lovingly nurtured and grown on the A14 J11 elevated min roundabout serving the east bound carriageway, at Cranford. Neglect for another month guys and should be completely impassable to anthing less than a moto-crosser... top effort!
Apparently this counts as a repair and resolved (according to the NCC Street Doctor service yesterday arising from my report a few days prior to posting the above, so maybe 9 Feb)
It's shocking really. We haven't even had a particularly cold or wet winter. So far we had bit of snow last month that melted away within 90 minutes. What causes such rapid degradation of the road surface? Could it be the salt?
It's not just the holes themselves that cause damage, but also the loose chippings that get spread around and kicked up at your car.
Has anyone been up the A6 Irthlingborough to Finedon stretch this week? It has been closed each weekend for ages, so I assumed they had been resurfacing the full length in stages (it's only about a mile, so shouldn't take long). Turns out they've just been doing odd patches, maybe 100/200 metres long and on one side only. Why do they think the other old sections will last much longer? Why close a major road for days on end if they're only doing parts of one lane at a time? Pathetic.
It's not just the holes themselves that cause damage, but also the loose chippings that get spread around and kicked up at your car.
Has anyone been up the A6 Irthlingborough to Finedon stretch this week? It has been closed each weekend for ages, so I assumed they had been resurfacing the full length in stages (it's only about a mile, so shouldn't take long). Turns out they've just been doing odd patches, maybe 100/200 metres long and on one side only. Why do they think the other old sections will last much longer? Why close a major road for days on end if they're only doing parts of one lane at a time? Pathetic.
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Worth reporting them as well as moaning. Every one I've reported has been sorted out.
Worth reporting them as well as moaning. Every one I've reported has been sorted out.
marcusgrant said:
Worth reporting them as well as moaning. Every one I've reported has been sorted out.
Then your experience is vastly different from mine. Unless 'sorted out' is achieved by randomly shovelling and heeling a couple of heaps of some half-strength scrap ashphalt mix roughly into the hole and hoping it stays put for more than half a day, whilst stoically ignoring the others that have invariably appeared around it in the time it has taken to even do that.The statutory duty is to keep the highway in safe repair (including by employing a properly effective inspection regime; not just by reacting to road users' 'moans', sorry reports). The current condition of the County's roads is a disgrace and those responsible for the (mis)managed neglect that has left far too many routes akin to a cross between a recently harvested spud field and the Mare Tranquillitatis should hang their heads in shame.
Pupp said:
Pupp said:
And trending today is the fine collection of carbuncles and craters being lovingly nurtured and grown on the A14 J11 elevated min roundabout serving the east bound carriageway, at Cranford. Neglect for another month guys and should be completely impassable to anthing less than a moto-crosser... top effort!
Apparently this counts as a repair and resolved (according to the NCC Street Doctor service yesterday arising from my report a few days prior to posting the above, so maybe 9 Feb)IMHO patching, unless full width and significant length will never really work unless the surrounding, existing area is reheated to allow the patch material to bond to the existing pavement (roadway). However as this process is time consuming and consequently proportionally costly the better solution will always be the planing (milling) out of damaged areas and laying fresh Hot Rolled Asphalt (HRA). Whilst this process is initially comparatively costly it is undoubtedly more cost effective in the long run.
Apologies (Gary) for my bleating on, but poor patching is one of my many pet hates.
Apologies (Gary) for my bleating on, but poor patching is one of my many pet hates.
Richard 858 said:
IMHO patching, unless full width and significant length will never really work unless the surrounding, existing area is reheated to allow the patch material to bond to the existing pavement (roadway). However as this process is time consuming and consequently proportionally costly the better solution will always be the planing (milling) out of damaged areas and laying fresh Hot Rolled Asphalt (HRA). Whilst this process is initially comparatively costly it is undoubtedly more cost effective in the long run.
Apologies (Gary) for my bleating on, but poor patching is one of my many pet hates.
Agreed, we have a single track metalled track about a third of a mile long linking us to another slighter wider single track road. It is used by five cars and huge HGV's picking up from a nearby grain-store. Apologies (Gary) for my bleating on, but poor patching is one of my many pet hates.
About twice a year for the last thirteen years I get onto street doctor.In that time I think we've had about four episodes of multiple patching each of which only lasted about eight weeks, then it's start again.
Problem is the the road is simply unsuitable for such heavy vehicles, it needs widening and relaying. Fat chance of that, so I just have to keep sucking up the suspension damage.
The increased Council Tax demand arrived yesterday. Joy.
Similar experiences across Northamptonshire from me. Nothing like rant about potholes to get my blood boiling!!!
My commute runs out of Northampton down the Salcey Forest road and out towards MK, where there are some horrendous examples of repeat failed patching, especially in the Forest.
Driving that route every week day helps a little as you learn where they are and can avoid where possible, but that's not the point. I repeatedly report them on streetdoctor but the response time and also time before the repairs fail are pretty poor in my experience.
Other pet peevs are where service providers dig up the road to lay gas, electrics, water, telecomms etc, and then leave poorly matched surfaces that become mini-speedbumps or "anti-speed-troughs" as I like to call them.
They must have applied for wayleaves from the council to get permission to start digging, so I'm surprised that no-one chases after them when they leave the road in a patchwork state, and sends them a bill for the remedial repairs!!!
My commute runs out of Northampton down the Salcey Forest road and out towards MK, where there are some horrendous examples of repeat failed patching, especially in the Forest.
Driving that route every week day helps a little as you learn where they are and can avoid where possible, but that's not the point. I repeatedly report them on streetdoctor but the response time and also time before the repairs fail are pretty poor in my experience.
Other pet peevs are where service providers dig up the road to lay gas, electrics, water, telecomms etc, and then leave poorly matched surfaces that become mini-speedbumps or "anti-speed-troughs" as I like to call them.
They must have applied for wayleaves from the council to get permission to start digging, so I'm surprised that no-one chases after them when they leave the road in a patchwork state, and sends them a bill for the remedial repairs!!!
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