Taking up Golf
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Rosscow said:
So, anchoring of putters (broom handle, belly, etc.) to be banned from 2016!
4 of the last 6 majors have been won with an anchored putter.
The likes of Adam Scott could suffer....
Does that stat not suggest there maybe an advantage to be gained by using it? When the nerves set in on the last few holes of the Masters, being able to anchor a putter seems, imo, a way to reduce the possibility of a nervy or poor putting stroke. When I see that 14 year old kid using a belly putter, I do think their use has gone a bit too far.4 of the last 6 majors have been won with an anchored putter.
The likes of Adam Scott could suffer....
So after a few years of hacking round the course a few times a year i finally got round to having some lessons, and what a difference they have made. Apparently my grip was wrong, very straight up and down swing causing me to force the shot, and also played with a very closed club face meaning i had to force it open on the down swing and mis-hitting lots of shots.
So far we have changed my grip and hand postion and made my swing more 45 degrees angle rather than up and down which I had before. Only issue is im still finding my arms tend to move out from my body on the backswing meaning im hitting inside the ball and slicing it right. Is there any tips/drills to keeping my arms tucked in? Is it a matter of keeping the towel under the arms which I saw mentioned a few posts earlier?
So far we have changed my grip and hand postion and made my swing more 45 degrees angle rather than up and down which I had before. Only issue is im still finding my arms tend to move out from my body on the backswing meaning im hitting inside the ball and slicing it right. Is there any tips/drills to keeping my arms tucked in? Is it a matter of keeping the towel under the arms which I saw mentioned a few posts earlier?
Challo said:
So after a few years of hacking round the course a few times a year i finally got round to having some lessons, and what a difference they have made. Apparently my grip was wrong, very straight up and down swing causing me to force the shot, and also played with a very closed club face meaning i had to force it open on the down swing and mis-hitting lots of shots.
So far we have changed my grip and hand postion and made my swing more 45 degrees angle rather than up and down which I had before. Only issue is im still finding my arms tend to move out from my body on the backswing meaning im hitting inside the ball and slicing it right. Is there any tips/drills to keeping my arms tucked in? Is it a matter of keeping the towel under the arms which I saw mentioned a few posts earlier?
The towel drill is good, but don't try anything more than a 3/4 quarter swing as the right arm must separate from the body to some degree to reach the top of the swing. Plenty of youtube videos to watch.So far we have changed my grip and hand postion and made my swing more 45 degrees angle rather than up and down which I had before. Only issue is im still finding my arms tend to move out from my body on the backswing meaning im hitting inside the ball and slicing it right. Is there any tips/drills to keeping my arms tucked in? Is it a matter of keeping the towel under the arms which I saw mentioned a few posts earlier?
djstevec said:
Does that stat not suggest there maybe an advantage to be gained by using it? When the nerves set in on the last few holes of the Masters, being able to anchor a putter seems, imo, a way to reduce the possibility of a nervy or poor putting stroke. When I see that 14 year old kid using a belly putter, I do think their use has gone a bit too far.
Yes, I agree.It will be interesting to see if the likes of Scott will ditch it now and try and get back into putting normally or if they'll try and win as much as possible with it until 2016.
simoid said:
If the anchored putters were so great an advantage, why isn't everyone using them?
Preference and ability.Alot of the pro's that use anchored putters have used normal putters in the past but where very ordinary players with a short stick. Adam scott being one those pro's that has become a better golfer since adopting the anchored putter.
Alot of pro's have tried an anchored putter even if only a few swings on a putting green, not all like them, some do.
I've played for 25 years now and went to a 'belly' putter about 6 years ago. I have it anchored just below my belt buckle. I'm not sure it has made me any better but it makes me feel more at ease over puts.
I have to say that if it really is that much of an advantage and has people moaning about them why doesn't everyone take up the current legal use of them and gain the so called advantage? Truth is it suits some and not others. Being as anyone can opt to use them I don't see the need to ban them myself.
I have to say that if it really is that much of an advantage and has people moaning about them why doesn't everyone take up the current legal use of them and gain the so called advantage? Truth is it suits some and not others. Being as anyone can opt to use them I don't see the need to ban them myself.
RWA441 said:
I've played for 25 years now and went to a 'belly' putter about 6 years ago. I have it anchored just below my belt buckle. I'm not sure it has made me any better but it makes me feel more at ease over puts.
I have to say that if it really is that much of an advantage and has people moaning about them why doesn't everyone take up the current legal use of them and gain the so called advantage? Truth is it suits some and not others. Being as anyone can opt to use them I don't see the need to ban them myself.
Id say in your case, as you feel more at ease over a putt with the belly putter, your putting stroke wouldn't be as affected as an un-anchored putter or as testing of your putting technique, when under pressure. Fixing the distance between the ball and your hands, by creating a fixed arc of movement the putter must reciprocate within, takes away a big element of testing a golfers technique under pressure, IMHO.I have to say that if it really is that much of an advantage and has people moaning about them why doesn't everyone take up the current legal use of them and gain the so called advantage? Truth is it suits some and not others. Being as anyone can opt to use them I don't see the need to ban them myself.
Mechanically your putting stroke may not be any better, but your propensity to duff a putt because of nerves is also reduced as you're much more confident of achieving the correct contact due to the mechanical help the anchored position gives you.
There have been previous equipment or designs outlawed, square grooves, trampoline effect drivers, conformity rules for golf balls, putting in a croquet type stance and so on have all been outlawed to keep the playing field as uniform as possible.
Major winners should be the best golfer, which encompasses the mechanical, mental and course management aspects of the game. Reducing the mental pressure aspect which in turn helps the mechanical one, I don't think achieves that aim.
simoid said:
Personally I think Kuchar's putting style gives the biggest theoretical advantage, but his isn't being banned.
Seems strange to me.
Interesting, and I agree to a point. Anchoring the putter in that way though, doesn't fix the distance between his hands/ball or hands/body, nor pivoting the swing around a fixed point, so there is an element of natural variation in the clubs swing/path/plane. We'll see if many others switch I guess.Seems strange to me.
DuncanM said:
No talk on here about Sergio/Tiger?
I think it's poor show of the golfing community to close ranks on this, Sergio is a nasty character and they are not friends so why is this ok?
Sergio should have been banned from this weeks tournament imo.
I'm no great fan of Sergio (never really warmed to him for some reason, but cant put my finger on it) and certainly his words were pretty crass considering he's talking about the one of the few Afro-American sportsman that has transcended the sport into a hero for a lot of Afro-Americans. And even stupider after Fuzzy Zoeller had been subject to similar press reaction back in 97(?) for saying the same thing. I think it's poor show of the golfing community to close ranks on this, Sergio is a nasty character and they are not friends so why is this ok?
Sergio should have been banned from this weeks tournament imo.
I doubt Sergio is racist, yet clearly dumb enough to feed the press the perfect w
k-fodder to take the feud to the next level and totally lose focus of the real subject of the playing issue where I feel Sergio had a legitimate complaint. The OTT, almost grovelling, apology was just as cringe-worthy has the remark and appears, to me at least, more for sponsors than Tiger. An instant ban maybe a bit too far, possibly a strong rebuke, fine and suspended ban. Being persona non-grata in US tournaments for a while and losing sponsors is going to hurt more.
djstevec said:
DuncanM said:
No talk on here about Sergio/Tiger?
I think it's poor show of the golfing community to close ranks on this, Sergio is a nasty character and they are not friends so why is this ok?
Sergio should have been banned from this weeks tournament imo.
I'm no great fan of Sergio (never really warmed to him for some reason, but cant put my finger on it) and certainly his words were pretty crass considering he's talking about the one of the few Afro-American sportsman that has transcended the sport into a hero for a lot of Afro-Americans. And even stupider after Fuzzy Zoeller had been subject to similar press reaction back in 97(?) for saying the same thing. I think it's poor show of the golfing community to close ranks on this, Sergio is a nasty character and they are not friends so why is this ok?
Sergio should have been banned from this weeks tournament imo.
I doubt Sergio is racist, yet clearly dumb enough to feed the press the perfect w
k-fodder to take the feud to the next level and totally lose focus of the real subject of the playing issue where I feel Sergio had a legitimate complaint. The OTT, almost grovelling, apology was just as cringe-worthy has the remark and appears, to me at least, more for sponsors than Tiger. An instant ban maybe a bit too far, possibly a strong rebuke, fine and suspended ban. Being persona non-grata in US tournaments for a while and losing sponsors is going to hurt more.
I actually think it's a pretty racist comment.
It's a thick casual racist comment and should be condemned for what it is. What would he feed Vijay? Curry? Hur hur hur.
Fuzzy was just as bad, worse actually as Tiger was a young man and new to the tour.
Williams called Tiger a black a
hole in Australia.Why is this ok in golf? I'm a little ashamed at how the sport is covering it up.
Never liked Sergio, spitting into the cup at Augusta was one of his many low points.
DuncanM said:
djstevec said:
DuncanM said:
No talk on here about Sergio/Tiger?
I think it's poor show of the golfing community to close ranks on this, Sergio is a nasty character and they are not friends so why is this ok?
Sergio should have been banned from this weeks tournament imo.
I'm no great fan of Sergio (never really warmed to him for some reason, but cant put my finger on it) and certainly his words were pretty crass considering he's talking about the one of the few Afro-American sportsman that has transcended the sport into a hero for a lot of Afro-Americans. And even stupider after Fuzzy Zoeller had been subject to similar press reaction back in 97(?) for saying the same thing. I think it's poor show of the golfing community to close ranks on this, Sergio is a nasty character and they are not friends so why is this ok?
Sergio should have been banned from this weeks tournament imo.
I doubt Sergio is racist, yet clearly dumb enough to feed the press the perfect w
k-fodder to take the feud to the next level and totally lose focus of the real subject of the playing issue where I feel Sergio had a legitimate complaint. The OTT, almost grovelling, apology was just as cringe-worthy has the remark and appears, to me at least, more for sponsors than Tiger. An instant ban maybe a bit too far, possibly a strong rebuke, fine and suspended ban. Being persona non-grata in US tournaments for a while and losing sponsors is going to hurt more.
I actually think it's a pretty racist comment.
It's a thick casual racist comment and should be condemned for what it is. What would he feed Vijay? Curry? Hur hur hur.
Fuzzy was just as bad, worse actually as Tiger was a young man and new to the tour.
Williams called Tiger a black a
hole in Australia.Why is this ok in golf? I'm a little ashamed at how the sport is covering it up.
Never liked Sergio, spitting into the cup at Augusta was one of his many low points.
I think Sergio is getting more and more bitter as he grows older. He's never reached his potential (largely to his putting) and I think it narks him. He used to be a ball of fun on the golf course, laughing and joking his way around but now he just looks miserable all the time! He's got the most talent of any player in the world and I thought he was going to win double figure majors during his career. I played just behind him in the 1998 British Amatuer and I've never seen a ball hit like it on the range, it had the sound off the face that not many players achieve. He was incredible.
I hope he does win a major and maybe the chip on his shoulder will dissapear
I hope he does win a major and maybe the chip on his shoulder will dissapear
timlongs said:
Broke my driver yesterday, the less said about it the better, but on the hunt for a new one now, the old one was a Cleveland Launcher 460 - quite old now and technology seems to have moved on a lot.
Whats good to look at these days?
Depending on your budget/handicap I'd have a look at the Taylor Made range. Currently using an R11 and it is solid with a nice clunk on impact. Not sure about the weighting and angular gimmickry (i havent changed anything) but worth a look at the r1/rocketballz. Always found Titleist more suited to a better ball strikerWhats good to look at these days?
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