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These two video's are the best I have seen for describing the sequence of the downswing.
This guy's description of the downswing sequence is spot on ...
Practicing it and grooving it into a subconscious swing is the hard part.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HmT4LN--3g&fea...
Herman williams is saying the same thing in this video but explaining it in a slightly different way. watch from 4:40 onwards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohZEOoP2AQI
Both of these video's show the correct sequencing for the downswing.
Simplifying it, at the top of backswing feel as if you keep the shoulders and hips turned then just drop the hands down to hit the ball. As you drop the hands if you have kept the correct spine tilt as set at address then the head will stay back and the bump towards the hole will happen naturally, do not try to force the bump as you will generally push forwards too much. The hips only move about 3-4 inches forwards. As the hands drop to waist height the hips will have begun to turn so you do not need to help them. Just let the swing take it's course through impact to finish.
A good way to get the feel is to hit balls with a narrow stance and the right foot pulled back so you have a 45 degree closed stance. This drill stops the right hip firing too early, it also stops the over the top movement which plagues 90 percent of amateurs.
This guy's description of the downswing sequence is spot on ...
Practicing it and grooving it into a subconscious swing is the hard part.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HmT4LN--3g&fea...
Herman williams is saying the same thing in this video but explaining it in a slightly different way. watch from 4:40 onwards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohZEOoP2AQI
Both of these video's show the correct sequencing for the downswing.
Simplifying it, at the top of backswing feel as if you keep the shoulders and hips turned then just drop the hands down to hit the ball. As you drop the hands if you have kept the correct spine tilt as set at address then the head will stay back and the bump towards the hole will happen naturally, do not try to force the bump as you will generally push forwards too much. The hips only move about 3-4 inches forwards. As the hands drop to waist height the hips will have begun to turn so you do not need to help them. Just let the swing take it's course through impact to finish.
A good way to get the feel is to hit balls with a narrow stance and the right foot pulled back so you have a 45 degree closed stance. This drill stops the right hip firing too early, it also stops the over the top movement which plagues 90 percent of amateurs.
Edited by taaffy on Monday 19th November 13:52
taaffy said:
These two video's are the best I have seen for describing the sequence of the downswing.
This guy's description of the downswing sequence is spot on ...
Practicing it and grooving it into a subconscious swing is the hard part.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HmT4LN--3g&fea...
Herman williams is saying the same thing in this video but explaining it in a slightly different way. watch from 4:40 onwards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohZEOoP2AQI
Both of these video's show the correct sequencing for the downswing.
Simplifying it, at the top of backswing feel as if you keep the shoulders and hips turned then just drop the hands down to hit the ball. As you drop the hands if you have kept the correct spine tilt as set at address then the head will stay back and the bump towards the hole will happen naturally, do not try to force the bump as you will generally push forwards too much. The hips only move about 3-4 inches forwards. As the hands drop to waist height the hips will have begun to turn so you do not need to help them. Just let the swing take it's course through impact to finish.
A good way to get the feel is to hit balls with a narrow stance and the right foot pulled back so you have a 45 degree closed stance. This drill stops the right hip firing too early, it also stops the over the top movement which plagues 90 percent of amateurs.
Thanks Taafy, some good pointers there for me to work on, I'm a big fan of Herman's stuff too, he's a great teacher.This guy's description of the downswing sequence is spot on ...
Practicing it and grooving it into a subconscious swing is the hard part.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HmT4LN--3g&fea...
Herman williams is saying the same thing in this video but explaining it in a slightly different way. watch from 4:40 onwards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohZEOoP2AQI
Both of these video's show the correct sequencing for the downswing.
Simplifying it, at the top of backswing feel as if you keep the shoulders and hips turned then just drop the hands down to hit the ball. As you drop the hands if you have kept the correct spine tilt as set at address then the head will stay back and the bump towards the hole will happen naturally, do not try to force the bump as you will generally push forwards too much. The hips only move about 3-4 inches forwards. As the hands drop to waist height the hips will have begun to turn so you do not need to help them. Just let the swing take it's course through impact to finish.
A good way to get the feel is to hit balls with a narrow stance and the right foot pulled back so you have a 45 degree closed stance. This drill stops the right hip firing too early, it also stops the over the top movement which plagues 90 percent of amateurs.
Edited by taaffy on Monday 19th November 13:52
Hi chaps
I need a quick favour - I have procured an old 58 degree Titlest Vokey lob wedge but it looks like the shaft has been extended and also might not be the original shaft.
Before I replace the grip I need to know how long the shaft *should* be on a regular lob wedge.
Could a kind PH'er with a regular length 58/60 degree wedge measure their shaft (ooer) for me? - ideally from the end of the plastic hozel to the end of the grip ?
Would be a great help !
I need a quick favour - I have procured an old 58 degree Titlest Vokey lob wedge but it looks like the shaft has been extended and also might not be the original shaft.
Before I replace the grip I need to know how long the shaft *should* be on a regular lob wedge.
Could a kind PH'er with a regular length 58/60 degree wedge measure their shaft (ooer) for me? - ideally from the end of the plastic hozel to the end of the grip ?
Would be a great help !
Edited by Skii on Thursday 22 November 12:56
Skii said:
Hi chaps
I need a quick favour - I have procured an old 58 degree Titlest Vokey lob wedge but it looks like the shaft has been extended and also might not be the original shaft.
Before I replace the grip I need to know how long the shaft *should* be on a regular lob wedge.
Could a kind PH'er with a regular length 58/60 degree wedge measure their shaft (ooer) for me? - ideally from the end of the plastic hozel to the end of the grip ?
Would be a great help !
Better that you make it sit with your existing set. Probably c.1/4 inch shorter than your next loftiest wedge.I need a quick favour - I have procured an old 58 degree Titlest Vokey lob wedge but it looks like the shaft has been extended and also might not be the original shaft.
Before I replace the grip I need to know how long the shaft *should* be on a regular lob wedge.
Could a kind PH'er with a regular length 58/60 degree wedge measure their shaft (ooer) for me? - ideally from the end of the plastic hozel to the end of the grip ?
Would be a great help !
Edited by Skii on Thursday 22 November 12:56
SpeckledJim said:
Welshbeef said:
Is a loft wedge loftier than a SW?
A lob wedge, yes. A gap wedge, no.PW about 48
Gap about 52
SW about 56
Then usually another around 60-64
You don't necessarily need them all.
Edited by SpeckledJim on Thursday 22 November 13:54
Merp said:
SpeckledJim said:
Welshbeef said:
Is a loft wedge loftier than a SW?
A lob wedge, yes. A gap wedge, no.PW about 48
Gap about 52
SW about 56
Then usually another around 60-64
You don't necessarily need them all.
Edited by SpeckledJim on Thursday 22 November 13:54
Very very rarely, only if im in some MAJOR trouble around the green. Usually just pitch shot, dropping it in right next to the pin. Suprisingly I dont tend to use it out of the bunker where I play, tend to use the lower bounce on my 52 gap wedge as the bunkers are quite deeply filled.
...but general use not a full shot.
...but general use not a full shot.
Bought another driver... Used of course.
Wilson deep red 9 degrees. The previous one was a 11.5 degree which I thought fine but when I was with my tutor he watched and advised on the stroke which I delivered four shots back to back but they went so high so he looked at the club "ah that's the issue your using a club designed for old men who cannot get loft you need a 9 degree else your 3 wood will beat the driver no matter how well you strike it. "
Found one on the bay for a mere £9 in as new condition shame it not arrived yet as fancied using it down the range. Still got 90 mins to smash loads of balls now with the rest of the kit.
Need a good weekend to get on the course really want a game now.
Wilson deep red 9 degrees. The previous one was a 11.5 degree which I thought fine but when I was with my tutor he watched and advised on the stroke which I delivered four shots back to back but they went so high so he looked at the club "ah that's the issue your using a club designed for old men who cannot get loft you need a 9 degree else your 3 wood will beat the driver no matter how well you strike it. "
Found one on the bay for a mere £9 in as new condition shame it not arrived yet as fancied using it down the range. Still got 90 mins to smash loads of balls now with the rest of the kit.
Need a good weekend to get on the course really want a game now.
Tuscanless Ali said:
At the moment I'm brilliant on the range but can't carry it to the course! Yet to break 100, got close at Hindhead with 101 but really want to break the 100 barrier.
Have you tried to play the course rather than playing to your game? Can make quite a difference. Look at each hole and think about where you can land the ball to play the hole to its best
Or break the game down how many green in regulation and how many holes are more than two putts. You might also not be settling for each shot ie rushing too much / out of breath or as soon as you arrive at the ball club out and swing then get the odd st shot.
Have you tried playing match play and not noted any cumulative score so that only at the end in clubhouse/ pub do you add it up. Might all be a mental barrier adding more pressure?
Welshbeef said:
Have you tried to play the course rather than playing to your game? Can make quite a difference.
Look at each hole and think about where you can land the ball to play the hole to its best
Or break the game down how many green in regulation and how many holes are more than two putts. You might also not be settling for each shot ie rushing too much / out of breath or as soon as you arrive at the ball club out and swing then get the odd st shot.
Have you tried playing match play and not noted any cumulative score so that only at the end in clubhouse/ pub do you add it up. Might all be a mental barrier adding more pressure?
what are you shooting now Welshbeef? is it improving?Look at each hole and think about where you can land the ball to play the hole to its best
Or break the game down how many green in regulation and how many holes are more than two putts. You might also not be settling for each shot ie rushing too much / out of breath or as soon as you arrive at the ball club out and swing then get the odd st shot.
Have you tried playing match play and not noted any cumulative score so that only at the end in clubhouse/ pub do you add it up. Might all be a mental barrier adding more pressure?
100 is a big mental barrier for beginners, easy to score more than a ton with a few awful holes.
Getting consistently under the ton is a good achievement for new players IMO.
DuncanM said:
what are you shooting now Welshbeef? is it improving?
100 is a big mental barrier for beginners, easy to score more than a ton with a few awful holes.
Getting consistently under the ton is a good achievement for new players IMO.
Not had a chance really to get on the course with the weather being so poor of late. But been on the driving range. 100 is a big mental barrier for beginners, easy to score more than a ton with a few awful holes.
Getting consistently under the ton is a good achievement for new players IMO.
Yesterday I played 100 balls 7 iron I hit every shot one went 100 yards just poor strike 2 full distance but hook and slice the other 7 dead straight perfect loft.
5 iron I'd say the hit ratio is about 15% less than the 7
3 wood about 50:50 today
Winter wheel rule invoked last week at our club, doesn't worry me too much as I like to carry the bag anyway.
Played today and shot 13 over but on temporary greens - so the course was playing about 600 yards shorter.
Was striking the ball very nicely and the fact we were on temporary greens made a real difference to my mindset.
I just ignored 'going for the pin' which I usually don't and this leads to getting me into trouble.
Instead just tried to hit the distance and accepted the putting would be a bit of a lottery on the temporary greens.
Now to take the same attitude out onto the course in normal conditions !!
Played today and shot 13 over but on temporary greens - so the course was playing about 600 yards shorter.
Was striking the ball very nicely and the fact we were on temporary greens made a real difference to my mindset.
I just ignored 'going for the pin' which I usually don't and this leads to getting me into trouble.
Instead just tried to hit the distance and accepted the putting would be a bit of a lottery on the temporary greens.
Now to take the same attitude out onto the course in normal conditions !!
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