The Triathlon thread - Ironman, 70.3, Olympic, Sprint

The Triathlon thread - Ironman, 70.3, Olympic, Sprint

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Sebo

2,167 posts

227 months

Monday 15th May 2023
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I’d say a 54 / medium in a TT bike will be too large. I’m 5ft 7 and ride a small / 52.

It does come down to some extent on whether you’re short leg / long body or long leg / short body etc

Taita

7,609 posts

204 months

GreatGranny

9,128 posts

227 months

Tuesday 16th May 2023
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/256069034007?_trkparms=...

I would buy shoes in person so the fit is perfect and get the best you can afford.

I would also invest in a bike fit session. 112 miles is a long way if you're not comfortable and you'll pick up injuries training.

Also may be worth some swimming lessons concentrating on technique depending on your level.
My daughter's boyfriend paid for a few and it made a huge difference.

Randy Winkman

16,158 posts

190 months

Tuesday 16th May 2023
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I support the suggestion above about swimming lessons. Best to line up full of confidence without any cares about who does what at the start.

Unless I misunderstand Ebay, isn't the Cervelo above going to go for way more than a grand?

Scabutz

7,632 posts

81 months

Tuesday 16th May 2023
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Randy Winkman said:
I support the suggestion above about swimming lessons. Best to line up full of confidence without any cares about who does what at the start.

Unless I misunderstand Ebay, isn't the Cervelo above going to go for way more than a grand?
Thrided on the swimming lessons.

Re the Cervelo don't be sure. I thought about selling mine last year and watched a few, many went for not much more than a grand. Cycle exchange offered me 1200

Randy Winkman

16,158 posts

190 months

Wednesday 17th May 2023
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Cheers. I'm sure there are bargains to be found. But for the OP, I'd guard against thinking that a fancy bike will do the work. It might help a bit but good legs and lungs are where it's at.

Gargamel

14,996 posts

262 months

Wednesday 17th May 2023
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Randy Winkman said:
Cheers. I'm sure there are bargains to be found. But for the OP, I'd guard against thinking that a fancy bike will do the work. It might help a bit but good legs and lungs are where it's at.
You can't blag your way round an IM, I don't think anyone is suggesting otherwise. Like I said, I saw four or five high end tri bikes totalled on the Zurich course. Bit of rain and some fast descent with pilot who likely did 90% of their training on their road bike.... disaster for them.

If you are just getting into Tri, then a good road bike is a much better bet. However you still need a good road bike !

Better to be fit with st gear, than undertrained with fancy carbon everywhere.

Camoradi

4,293 posts

257 months

Wednesday 17th May 2023
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Some great tips on this thread. I'm seeking a bit of feedback please on pacing for a half ironman bike. I've raced the distance before but the last time was in 1990. frown The race I'm doing is quite close to my home so I can ride the two lap bike course before the race, and have done so already. I managed about 2 hours 50 minutes, at the end of a fairly heavy training week.

My question is, how much slower should I be going in the race in comparison to a time trial effort on the same course?

The run is a 3 lap course, pancake flat.


Gargamel

14,996 posts

262 months

Wednesday 17th May 2023
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Camoradi said:
Some great tips on this thread. I'm seeking a bit of feedback please on pacing for a half ironman bike. I've raced the distance before but the last time was in 1990. frown The race I'm doing is quite close to my home so I can ride the two lap bike course before the race, and have done so already. I managed about 2 hours 50 minutes, at the end of a fairly heavy training week.

My question is, how much slower should I be going in the race in comparison to a time trial effort on the same course?

The run is a 3 lap course, pancake flat.
I mean there are so many variables, which is what makes Tri so much fun.

Is bike your strongest leg ?
What overall time are you looking for ?

Etc etc

I would say ride it again in zone 3 heart rate (ie at around 60% of max HR. See how long that takes. Race day effort is probably somewhere between 60% - 80% effort. Maybe only 100% effort on hills (or a tres glamourous sprint to T2)







Camoradi

4,293 posts

257 months

Wednesday 17th May 2023
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Gargamel said:
Camoradi said:
Some great tips on this thread. I'm seeking a bit of feedback please on pacing for a half ironman bike. I've raced the distance before but the last time was in 1990. frown The race I'm doing is quite close to my home so I can ride the two lap bike course before the race, and have done so already. I managed about 2 hours 50 minutes, at the end of a fairly heavy training week.

My question is, how much slower should I be going in the race in comparison to a time trial effort on the same course?

The run is a 3 lap course, pancake flat.
I mean there are so many variables, which is what makes Tri so much fun.

Is bike your strongest leg ?
What overall time are you looking for ?

Etc etc

I would say ride it again in zone 3 heart rate (ie at around 60% of max HR. See how long that takes. Race day effort is probably somewhere between 60% - 80% effort. Maybe only 100% effort on hills (or a tres glamourous sprint to T2)
Overall time I'm not sure. Under 5:30 would be nice... I think riding to heart rate or perceived exertion as you suggest is probably the only way to judge it. I was thinking 8/10 PE, but that's probably a bit ambitious. Your suggestion of 60-80% would lead me to 70% so that's probably about right. The bike course is gently rolling so there are a lot of sections where gentle pressure on the pedals can yield a lot of speed.

I have more experience in the run than the other disciplines. I'm not fast these days but I can grind it out OK.

Thanks for replying. Appreciated. smile

Smitters

4,004 posts

158 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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First triathlon in 10 years yesterday. 51-Fiver Standard distance. Crap swim, good bike, better than expected run. By God I hurt today.

Sebo

2,167 posts

227 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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Smitters said:
First triathlon in 10 years yesterday. 51-Fiver Standard distance. Crap swim, good bike, better than expected run. By God I hurt today.
Congrats on getting it done !!

When’s the next one smile

Smitters

4,004 posts

158 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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Sebo said:
Congrats on getting it done !!

When’s the next one smile
Cheers. Planning on a few 10 and 25 mile tts and pondering the Brutal Half in Snowdonia, depending on my running endurance over the next couple.of months.

Gargamel

14,996 posts

262 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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Smitters said:
Sebo said:
Congrats on getting it done !!

When’s the next one smile
Cheers. Planning on a few 10 and 25 mile tts and pondering the Brutal Half in Snowdonia, depending on my running endurance over the next couple.of months.
Looks fun. Is the finish at the top, or do you come down again.

Tempting, but I am not in that kind of shape at the moment. (More round than triangle)

Smitters

4,004 posts

158 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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Gargamel said:
Looks fun. Is the finish at the top, or do you come down again.

Tempting, but I am not in that kind of shape at the moment. (More round than triangle)
As I understand, you do the climb first on the run, then make up the distance on a round the lake route. Even the IM, double and triple racers only climb once, presumably for safety reasons.

Just remember, round is both hydrodynamic and aerodynamic. Triangles are not. I am also round. And I descend on a bike very well, thanks to gravity! Big rest opportunity while racing snakes have to pedal for momentum!

Camoradi

4,293 posts

257 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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Smitters said:
First triathlon in 10 years yesterday. 51-Fiver Standard distance. Crap swim, good bike, better than expected run. By God I hurt today.
Was that from Lake 32? I was out on the bike and stopped by to watch some of the runners on the Spine Road. Pretty warm conditions by late morning. Good effort finishing that one

Smitters

4,004 posts

158 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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Camoradi said:
Was that from Lake 32? I was out on the bike and stopped by to watch some of the runners on the Spine Road. Pretty warm conditions by late morning. Good effort finishing that one
That's the one. I was in the last wave, so had the warmest water and the warmest run. It also meant I had a brilliant finishing funnel as loads of athletes were still hanging around. It was a proper wall of sound! I'd absolutely recommend it as a race. Fairly flat, but interesting bike and run courses and obviously a flat swim... Winner was well under 2 hours, so definitely fast, but also very chilled set-up, friendly marshals and organisers. DB Max are properly good at this stuff.

Randy Winkman

16,158 posts

190 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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Smitters said:
Camoradi said:
Was that from Lake 32? I was out on the bike and stopped by to watch some of the runners on the Spine Road. Pretty warm conditions by late morning. Good effort finishing that one
That's the one. I was in the last wave, so had the warmest water and the warmest run. It also meant I had a brilliant finishing funnel as loads of athletes were still hanging around. It was a proper wall of sound! I'd absolutely recommend it as a race. Fairly flat, but interesting bike and run courses and obviously a flat swim... Winner was well under 2 hours, so definitely fast, but also very chilled set-up, friendly marshals and organisers. DB Max are properly good at this stuff.
Well done for your comeback. I did that 5 years ago as part of my recovery from an accident injury. Quite enjoyable to do it and be less stressed than I used to be about time.

redrabbit29

1,379 posts

134 months

Sunday 4th June 2023
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I hate stuff like this but horrible incident in Hamburg Ironman today.

A motorcyclist crashed into an amateur competitor. All live streamed on YouTube.

Sadly the motorcyclist died at the scene. The camera man and the triathlete are both injured.

As you can imagine it's really overshadowed the event.