The Triathlon thread - Ironman, 70.3, Olympic, Sprint
Discussion
944fan said:
Further to above? Has anyone done an Tri at Eton Dorney? Bike course looks flat and closed roads, yet last years times don't look that sharp. I know its slightly over 40km but only be a couple of km. Fastest bike split was 1:08 in my AG. Would expect times a lot closer to 1:02 for a flat closed road course.
Run looks flat as a pancake, my kind of run. Could lose another stone by then maybe and wallop my 10km time!
Done a few there. It's flat but there's a headwind / tailwind as you go up towards the far end (away from the boat house) and then the opposite of course on the way back.Run looks flat as a pancake, my kind of run. Could lose another stone by then maybe and wallop my 10km time!
It's flat but boring as hell. There's nothing to look at. Water's clear though. You can see the bottom of the lake. I wouldn't recommend it unless you absolutely HAVE to post a fast time. Personally, I only ever compared courses.
Rich_W said:
Good Luck.
Whilst it's not likely to be a massive problem cause the distances are very small. Between then and now. Ride a little way. Then put the bike somewhere suitable, jump off and put your running trainers on then go for a little run. It's called a "brick session" (I have no idea why ) But what it will do is let you know what it is like when you get off a bike and run on the day.
Also on the same vein. As you get near the end of the swim. Kick like mad. It will help get the blood back into your legs as effectively you're laying down for a while and help you get your "land legs" back a bit quicker.
Let us know how it went. My first was London Triathlon in Docklands for a sprint event in 2010. I had no designs on doing more than 1 And certainly never go long distance, but then you get carried away...
My first foray into triathlon wasn't a total disaster! I had 3 goals I wanted to achieve from this:Whilst it's not likely to be a massive problem cause the distances are very small. Between then and now. Ride a little way. Then put the bike somewhere suitable, jump off and put your running trainers on then go for a little run. It's called a "brick session" (I have no idea why ) But what it will do is let you know what it is like when you get off a bike and run on the day.
Also on the same vein. As you get near the end of the swim. Kick like mad. It will help get the blood back into your legs as effectively you're laying down for a while and help you get your "land legs" back a bit quicker.
Let us know how it went. My first was London Triathlon in Docklands for a sprint event in 2010. I had no designs on doing more than 1 And certainly never go long distance, but then you get carried away...
1. don't drown
2. finish
3. overtake someone and try not to be overtaken
I sorted 1 and 2, which is great, 3 I sort of did as I overtook some people, but also got overtaken.
My start time was 08:10 but I was at Bannatyne's Wellingborough by just after 7 so I could have a proper look at the transition area and get my (borrowed) bike in the rack in the right place after getting my race number. The start times for the swim were decided alphabetically (2 lanes of the pool, one person in each lane starts and then 90 seconds later the next pair started) and as an 'R' I was 15th out of 18 so the pool was a bit congested when I started. I think I started well, I felt strong with my messy stroke and my breathing was almost in time with my arms. I had to go around a couple of people and a couple of people went around me but because of the rally style start I didn't know if they started before or after me. My new gadget (TomTom Runner2 Cardio) told me that my swim time was 5mins 9secs which is 20 seconds quicker than my only other timed swim over 200m so I was pleased with that. Out of the pool and into transition 1 where it went badly wrong. I got my goggles and swim cap off on the way into T1, switched the mode on my watch to cycle, and got my trainers on, all good. Another person was already there and was about to unrack her bike without having a helmet on so someone said 'helmet first' which put me off. I put my helmet on forgetting that my race number was pinned to my t-shirt and not on my tri-suit, so helmet off, t-shirt on, helmet on again! Unrack my bike and out of transition where I realise I've left the bike in too high a gear so I had to grind away to get going. I felt ok on the bike, legs felt ok and I was spinning away quite happily. the course was pretty flat but I felt like there was a constant headwind despite the course being a 2 lap loop. T2 was loads better, proper rolling dismount into the transition zone, bike racked and helmet off and onto the run. I've done a couple of brick sessions before but I was still surprised at how little go I had in my legs! Plodded along the out and back run route and then finished to be greeted by a bloke with a medal and music and a very small crowd!
I have no idea about my time because my TomTom seemed to be a bit slow in picking up GPS, I think from start to finish it was about 30 minutes. TBH I wasn't that bothered, I'd finished!
So, positives are, my swim was better than I expected, there is massive room for improvement in my T1 time and I finished! Negatives are...well there aren't any!
Everyone there (Bannatyne's, Wellingborough & District AC and Go Beyond) were all great and really encouraging. If anyone is thinking about having a go at a GoTri event I would whole heartedly recommend it. I'm already looking for my next one, Stowe next year looks like it could be good!
craig r said:
My first foray into triathlon wasn't a total disaster! I had 3 goals I wanted to achieve from this:
1. don't drown
2. finish
3. overtake someone and try not to be overtaken
I sorted 1 and 2, which is great, 3 I sort of did as I overtook some people, but also got overtaken.
My start time was 08:10 but I was at Bannatyne's Wellingborough by just after 7 so I could have a proper look at the transition area and get my (borrowed) bike in the rack in the right place after getting my race number. The start times for the swim were decided alphabetically (2 lanes of the pool, one person in each lane starts and then 90 seconds later the next pair started) and as an 'R' I was 15th out of 18 so the pool was a bit congested when I started. I think I started well, I felt strong with my messy stroke and my breathing was almost in time with my arms. I had to go around a couple of people and a couple of people went around me but because of the rally style start I didn't know if they started before or after me. My new gadget (TomTom Runner2 Cardio) told me that my swim time was 5mins 9secs which is 20 seconds quicker than my only other timed swim over 200m so I was pleased with that. Out of the pool and into transition 1 where it went badly wrong. I got my goggles and swim cap off on the way into T1, switched the mode on my watch to cycle, and got my trainers on, all good. Another person was already there and was about to unrack her bike without having a helmet on so someone said 'helmet first' which put me off. I put my helmet on forgetting that my race number was pinned to my t-shirt and not on my tri-suit, so helmet off, t-shirt on, helmet on again! Unrack my bike and out of transition where I realise I've left the bike in too high a gear so I had to grind away to get going. I felt ok on the bike, legs felt ok and I was spinning away quite happily. the course was pretty flat but I felt like there was a constant headwind despite the course being a 2 lap loop. T2 was loads better, proper rolling dismount into the transition zone, bike racked and helmet off and onto the run. I've done a couple of brick sessions before but I was still surprised at how little go I had in my legs! Plodded along the out and back run route and then finished to be greeted by a bloke with a medal and music and a very small crowd!
I have no idea about my time because my TomTom seemed to be a bit slow in picking up GPS, I think from start to finish it was about 30 minutes. TBH I wasn't that bothered, I'd finished!
So, positives are, my swim was better than I expected, there is massive room for improvement in my T1 time and I finished! Negatives are...well there aren't any!
Everyone there (Bannatyne's, Wellingborough & District AC and Go Beyond) were all great and really encouraging. If anyone is thinking about having a go at a GoTri event I would whole heartedly recommend it. I'm already looking for my next one, Stowe next year looks like it could be good!
Well done. Glad you enjoyed it.1. don't drown
2. finish
3. overtake someone and try not to be overtaken
I sorted 1 and 2, which is great, 3 I sort of did as I overtook some people, but also got overtaken.
My start time was 08:10 but I was at Bannatyne's Wellingborough by just after 7 so I could have a proper look at the transition area and get my (borrowed) bike in the rack in the right place after getting my race number. The start times for the swim were decided alphabetically (2 lanes of the pool, one person in each lane starts and then 90 seconds later the next pair started) and as an 'R' I was 15th out of 18 so the pool was a bit congested when I started. I think I started well, I felt strong with my messy stroke and my breathing was almost in time with my arms. I had to go around a couple of people and a couple of people went around me but because of the rally style start I didn't know if they started before or after me. My new gadget (TomTom Runner2 Cardio) told me that my swim time was 5mins 9secs which is 20 seconds quicker than my only other timed swim over 200m so I was pleased with that. Out of the pool and into transition 1 where it went badly wrong. I got my goggles and swim cap off on the way into T1, switched the mode on my watch to cycle, and got my trainers on, all good. Another person was already there and was about to unrack her bike without having a helmet on so someone said 'helmet first' which put me off. I put my helmet on forgetting that my race number was pinned to my t-shirt and not on my tri-suit, so helmet off, t-shirt on, helmet on again! Unrack my bike and out of transition where I realise I've left the bike in too high a gear so I had to grind away to get going. I felt ok on the bike, legs felt ok and I was spinning away quite happily. the course was pretty flat but I felt like there was a constant headwind despite the course being a 2 lap loop. T2 was loads better, proper rolling dismount into the transition zone, bike racked and helmet off and onto the run. I've done a couple of brick sessions before but I was still surprised at how little go I had in my legs! Plodded along the out and back run route and then finished to be greeted by a bloke with a medal and music and a very small crowd!
I have no idea about my time because my TomTom seemed to be a bit slow in picking up GPS, I think from start to finish it was about 30 minutes. TBH I wasn't that bothered, I'd finished!
So, positives are, my swim was better than I expected, there is massive room for improvement in my T1 time and I finished! Negatives are...well there aren't any!
Everyone there (Bannatyne's, Wellingborough & District AC and Go Beyond) were all great and really encouraging. If anyone is thinking about having a go at a GoTri event I would whole heartedly recommend it. I'm already looking for my next one, Stowe next year looks like it could be good!
Just over a week not until my first 70.3. I am starting to think I haven't done enough training, I probably have in reality but I'm a bit anxious about it.
Had an open water swim tonight in the Derwent reservoir. I did approximately the 1.2 mile swim in 42 mins which i am happy with however my swimming is wonky so my 1.2 miles was probably over a marked course of about 1 mile. got help me next week in the sea during a strong tide. The forecast for a calm sea looks good at the moment but that could change.
Had an open water swim tonight in the Derwent reservoir. I did approximately the 1.2 mile swim in 42 mins which i am happy with however my swimming is wonky so my 1.2 miles was probably over a marked course of about 1 mile. got help me next week in the sea during a strong tide. The forecast for a calm sea looks good at the moment but that could change.
ED209 said:
Just over a week not until my first 70.3. I am starting to think I haven't done enough training, I probably have in reality but I'm a bit anxious about it.
Had an open water swim tonight in the Derwent reservoir. I did approximately the 1.2 mile swim in 42 mins which i am happy with however my swimming is wonky so my 1.2 miles was probably over a marked course of about 1 mile. got help me next week in the sea during a strong tide. The forecast for a calm sea looks good at the moment but that could change.
I think it is natural to worry that you haven't done enough. Worse thing to do is try and "test" yourself now to see if you have. Trust that you have done enough and accept that you can't change it now.Had an open water swim tonight in the Derwent reservoir. I did approximately the 1.2 mile swim in 42 mins which i am happy with however my swimming is wonky so my 1.2 miles was probably over a marked course of about 1 mile. got help me next week in the sea during a strong tide. The forecast for a calm sea looks good at the moment but that could change.
I have only done 1 70.3 but from my experience getting your pacing right is the most important thing. Take the swim easy, I used mine just to warm up for the bike. Take the bike easy. You will get over taken, let them go. They are either going to fast and will bow up and you will pass them again or they are faster than you anyway.
Good luck.
ED209 said:
Just over a week not until my first 70.3. I am starting to think I haven't done enough training, I probably have in reality but I'm a bit anxious about it.
This is where you get out your training log and flick back a few months and read all the sessions you did. (Did you use a training plan btw?)Hopefully, that will reinforce that you HAVE done enough training.
I shouldn't worry though a 70.3 is basically a Sprint Tri.
Good Luck. Enjoy it.
Anyone else following the deca and double deca comp in Switzerland? There's a Brit leading the double deca. I say 'Brit', he's clearly not of this planet
http://ultratriathlon-switzerland.jimdo.com/englis...
http://ultratriathlon-switzerland.jimdo.com/englis...
Rich_W said:
ED209 said:
Just over a week not until my first 70.3. I am starting to think I haven't done enough training, I probably have in reality but I'm a bit anxious about it.
This is where you get out your training log and flick back a few months and read all the sessions you did. (Did you use a training plan btw?)Hopefully, that will reinforce that you HAVE done enough training.
I shouldn't worry though a 70.3 is basically a Sprint Tri.
Good Luck. Enjoy it.
I know in isolation i can do the distance for all the disciplines, its just a matter of stringing them together and avoiding panics on the swim.
Anyone else having fun in this heat? I ran 17km this morning, hilly as well (well hilly for my part of the world, about 160m gain). My running shirt and shorts were completely soaked through and that was at 7AM. I have drunk about 3 litres since and still feel thirsty.
I have a camel back somewhere from my mountain biking days, if this heat continues I think I will be using that on my long runs.
I have a camel back somewhere from my mountain biking days, if this heat continues I think I will be using that on my long runs.
944fan said:
Anyone else having fun in this heat? I ran 17km this morning, hilly as well (well hilly for my part of the world, about 160m gain). My running shirt and shorts were completely soaked through and that was at 7AM. I have drunk about 3 litres since and still feel thirsty.
I have a camel back somewhere from my mountain biking days, if this heat continues I think I will be using that on my long runs.
Do take water or the SIS gels which claim to 'replace water'!I have a camel back somewhere from my mountain biking days, if this heat continues I think I will be using that on my long runs.
944fan said:
Anyone else having fun in this heat? I ran 17km this morning, hilly as well (well hilly for my part of the world, about 160m gain). My running shirt and shorts were completely soaked through and that was at 7AM. I have drunk about 3 litres since and still feel thirsty.
I have a camel back somewhere from my mountain biking days, if this heat continues I think I will be using that on my long runs.
I ran a zone 2 HR half marathon on Thursday morning (6:30am). I've run in hotter temperatures in this country and others but never that humidity. I'm toward the heavier end of the sweating scale so this was never going to be good. I could ring water out of my shorter and even after that they were dripping on my feet as I stretch off!I have a camel back somewhere from my mountain biking days, if this heat continues I think I will be using that on my long runs.
Thankfully I took my 1L camelback with me (a great buy used in a marathon and half and full IM distances this year) but was still thirsty all morning.
m444ttb said:
I ran a zone 2 HR half marathon on Thursday morning (6:30am). I've run in hotter temperatures in this country and others but never that humidity. I'm toward the heavier end of the sweating scale so this was never going to be good. I could ring water out of my shorter and even after that they were dripping on my feet as I stretch off!
Thankfully I took my 1L camelback with me (a great buy used in a marathon and half and full IM distances this year) but was still thirsty all morning.
1l camelback sounds good. I think mine might be one of the big 3lt jobbies which is going to be a bit st for running.Thankfully I took my 1L camelback with me (a great buy used in a marathon and half and full IM distances this year) but was still thirsty all morning.
I am massive sweater as well.
My piss has been bright yellow all morning, just about returned to normal now.
ED209 said:
I haven't really followed a training plan. My wife has and i have tried to mirror that where i can. Its difficult though when you both work different shift patterns.
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I think there's something psychological to be gained by keeping a log though. Get a cheap diary/calendar then just note down what you did. eg run 10K or swim 3k with paddles. Then your thoughts on how it went....
3 weeks out from ironman wales and the last hard week of training and ive managed to catch a head cold.
Yesterday was my rest day anyway and I took an extra day off before as I could feel some form of illness coming.
what's the advice guys? I've been working a lot (i.e. 60-72 hour weeks) and training. take today as my rest day get a good nights sleep tonight and then regroup for a hopefully illness free rest of the week training?
Yesterday was my rest day anyway and I took an extra day off before as I could feel some form of illness coming.
what's the advice guys? I've been working a lot (i.e. 60-72 hour weeks) and training. take today as my rest day get a good nights sleep tonight and then regroup for a hopefully illness free rest of the week training?
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