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AyBee
5,252 posts
71 months
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BlackVanDyke said: AyBee said: BlackVanDyke said: Shock in 'sportswomen have muscles' exposé!
That, lads, is what a athletic, superbly fit but healthy young human female body is supposed to look like. Are you seriously suggesting 2 from left is athletic? Always amazes me that professional sports women can still look like that, there is definitely excess fat there for a sportswoman. I'm really not a fan of skinny but 2 isn't curvy either - straight up and down - not for me! Er, yes. She's an elite athlete, at the top of her game. That's not excess fat, it's just 'fat'. Normal fat, in the normal places that people whose bodies run on oestrogen store it. You can't honestly be suggesting that they ought to have no body fat at all? It's likely that if she reduced her calorie intake to try and get rid of that fat, she'd find herself without enough fuel to maintain her body in international-level sportsperson shape. Have a look at a few endurance cyclists - say Chris Hoy - nobody'd call him fat (at least not without a running start...) but he certainly has some because that's how the human body is meant to be. So why do the other 3 not have this fat that is so crucial to maintain them at the top of their game?
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AJS-
10,016 posts
105 months
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No, no, definitely not and maybe for me.
Not often my standards are at or above the average in any field of endeavour, but I seem to be taking the high ground on this one.
Once again Britain will be left looking decidedly second rate.
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AJS-
10,016 posts
105 months
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BlackVanDyke said: Er, yes. She's an elite athlete, at the top of her game. That's b  ks as well. Since when the hell was Women's Beach Volleyball a top level international sport? The only reason anyone watches it is to see bouncing tits without getting strange charges on their credit card statement. It's a soft porn diversion to try and get men and employed people interested in the Olympics, and that's the best we as a nation can do?! They're a motley crew of badly failed models and probably a handy club level tennis player or two, with uncles and family friends on the selection committee.
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onesickpuppy
2,104 posts
26 months
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Here's a couple of the Aussies for comparison:  ETA: It's a double yes from me.
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McHaggis
7,740 posts
24 months
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AJS- said: That's b ks as well. Since when the hell was Women's Beach Volleyball a top level international sport? The only reason anyone watches it is to see bouncing tits without getting strange charges on their credit card statement. It's a soft porn diversion to try and get men and employed people interested in the Olympics, and that's the best we as a nation can do?! They're a motley crew of badly failed models and probably a handy club level tennis player or two, with uncles and family friends on the selection committee. Harsh and wrong...  So which of them stood you up?
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hidetheelephants
5,598 posts
62 months
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onesickpuppy said: Here's a couple of the Aussies for comparison: ETA: It's a double yes from me. So Antipodean bodyfat is more acceptable than Anglosaxon? 
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McHaggis
7,740 posts
24 months
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AJS- said: Since when the hell was Women's Beach Volleyball a top level international sport? 1996 for the Olympics. 1987 as a professionalised sport for women. http://www.bvbinfo.com/history.asp for the full history.
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AJS-
10,016 posts
105 months
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onesickpuppy said: Here's a couple of the Aussies for comparison: ETA: It's a double yes from me. f k me dead, have they got matching tattoos? 11 o'clock.
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Shaw Tarse
19,178 posts
72 months
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AJS- said: onesickpuppy said: Here's a couple of the Aussies for comparison: ETA: It's a double yes from me. f k me dead, have they got matching tattoos? 11 o'clock. I'm prepared to take one for the team & have a closer look!
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AJS-
10,016 posts
105 months
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McHaggis said: AJS- said: Since when the hell was Women's Beach Volleyball a top level international sport? 1996 for the Olympics. 1987 as a professionalised sport for women. http://www.bvbinfo.com/history.asp for the full history. So all over the world, athletic young women are throwing themselves into beach volleyball because they don't want to be doctors, CEOs or even tennis stars, they want to prance around in a bikini once every 4 years on Eurosport? Not for them the multi million dollar endorsements, the jet set lifestyle or the celebrity recognition. They'd far rather a year's supply of Wonder Bras and a free bottle of Coke. Sorry Dad, this is just something I have to do! Bull. Top class professional sports are tennis, football, rugby, F1 and for want of a better word than sport, cricket. American football and their man's rounders might get an honorary mention. You know, the ones that people actually want to watch. Google makes it easy, but I defy anyone when put on the spot to name a beach volleyball player. It's a side show, tagging along with all the other dull and inane sports that masquerade as interesting during the Olympic games, because no one would even read about them in the paper otherwise. I'm sure they train hard, practice plenty and are good at their little game, but to my mind calling them elite international athletes is a disservice to people who actually are.
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obob
2,989 posts
63 months
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AJS- said: So all over the world, athletic young women are throwing themselves into beach volleyball because they don't want to be doctors, CEOs or even tennis stars, they want to prance around in a bikini once every 4 years on Eurosport? Not for them the multi million dollar endorsements, the jet set lifestyle or the celebrity recognition. They'd far rather a year's supply of Wonder Bras and a free bottle of Coke.
Sorry Dad, this is just something I have to do!
Bull.
Top class professional sports are tennis, football, rugby, F1 and for want of a better word than sport, cricket. American football and their man's rounders might get an honorary mention. You know, the ones that people actually want to watch. Google makes it easy, but I defy anyone when put on the spot to name a beach volleyball player.
It's a side show, tagging along with all the other dull and inane sports that masquerade as interesting during the Olympic games, because no one would even read about them in the paper otherwise.
I'm sure they train hard, practice plenty and are good at their little game, but to my mind calling them elite international athletes is a disservice to people who actually are. Name a hockey player or a squash player or lacrosse player.
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AlexS
890 posts
101 months
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AJS- said: McHaggis said: AJS- said: Since when the hell was Women's Beach Volleyball a top level international sport? 1996 for the Olympics. 1987 as a professionalised sport for women. http://www.bvbinfo.com/history.asp for the full history. So all over the world, athletic young women are throwing themselves into beach volleyball because they don't want to be doctors, CEOs or even tennis stars, they want to prance around in a bikini once every 4 years on Eurosport? Not for them the multi million dollar endorsements, the jet set lifestyle or the celebrity recognition. They'd far rather a year's supply of Wonder Bras and a free bottle of Coke. Sorry Dad, this is just something I have to do! Bull. Top class professional sports are tennis, football, rugby, F1 and for want of a better word than sport, cricket. American football and their man's rounders might get an honorary mention. You know, the ones that people actually want to watch. Google makes it easy, but I defy anyone when put on the spot to name a beach volleyball player. It's a side show, tagging along with all the other dull and inane sports that masquerade as interesting during the Olympic games, because no one would even read about them in the paper otherwise. I'm sure they train hard, practice plenty and are good at their little game, but to my mind calling them elite international athletes is a disservice to people who actually are. Gabrielle Reece is one name that springs to mind.
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Du1point8
14,306 posts
61 months
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obob said: AJS- said: So all over the world, athletic young women are throwing themselves into beach volleyball because they don't want to be doctors, CEOs or even tennis stars, they want to prance around in a bikini once every 4 years on Eurosport? Not for them the multi million dollar endorsements, the jet set lifestyle or the celebrity recognition. They'd far rather a year's supply of Wonder Bras and a free bottle of Coke.
Sorry Dad, this is just something I have to do!
Bull.
Top class professional sports are tennis, football, rugby, F1 and for want of a better word than sport, cricket. American football and their man's rounders might get an honorary mention. You know, the ones that people actually want to watch. Google makes it easy, but I defy anyone when put on the spot to name a beach volleyball player.
It's a side show, tagging along with all the other dull and inane sports that masquerade as interesting during the Olympic games, because no one would even read about them in the paper otherwise.
I'm sure they train hard, practice plenty and are good at their little game, but to my mind calling them elite international athletes is a disservice to people who actually are. Name a hockey player or a squash player or lacrosse player. Jane Sixsmith... but then you are talking to a hockey player.
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BlackVanDyke
8,041 posts
80 months
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AyBee said: BlackVanDyke said: AyBee said: BlackVanDyke said: Shock in 'sportswomen have muscles' exposé!
That, lads, is what a athletic, superbly fit but healthy young human female body is supposed to look like. Are you seriously suggesting 2 from left is athletic? Always amazes me that professional sports women can still look like that, there is definitely excess fat there for a sportswoman. I'm really not a fan of skinny but 2 isn't curvy either - straight up and down - not for me! Er, yes. She's an elite athlete, at the top of her game. That's not excess fat, it's just 'fat'. Normal fat, in the normal places that people whose bodies run on oestrogen store it. You can't honestly be suggesting that they ought to have no body fat at all? It's likely that if she reduced her calorie intake to try and get rid of that fat, she'd find herself without enough fuel to maintain her body in international-level sportsperson shape. Have a look at a few endurance cyclists - say Chris Hoy - nobody'd call him fat (at least not without a running start...) but he certainly has some because that's how the human body is meant to be. So why do the other 3 not have this fat that is so crucial to maintain them at the top of their game? Different individuals have different phenotypes - am not saying that the fat itself is crucial, just that it's a) trivial/irrelevant and b) likely to be impossible to 'remove' without seriously damaging her game.
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obob
2,989 posts
63 months
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BlackVanDyke said: Different individuals have different phenotypes - am not saying that the fat itself is crucial, just that it's a) trivial/irrelevant and b) likely to be impossible to 'remove' without seriously damaging her game. Ok but she's fugly anyway.
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BlackVanDyke
8,041 posts
80 months
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obob said: BlackVanDyke said: Different individuals have different phenotypes - am not saying that the fat itself is crucial, just that it's a) trivial/irrelevant and b) likely to be impossible to 'remove' without seriously damaging her game. Ok but she's fugly anyway. Now we get down to the real issue! It's certainly a profoundly horrible photo of her; I'd make my decision in person on that one I think... (and if she turned out to be lovely/seductive/filthy etc. then looks pretty much stop mattering)
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pablo
10,287 posts
142 months
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I know most of the comments in this thread are in jest but its worth noting that this weekend it was reported that someone "high up" in the UKA had the audacity to recently call Jess Ennis a bit on the chunky side and Holly Avil - U23 World triathlon Champion - described how an eating disorder, brought on by coaches telling her she was overweight, forced her out of competition. We really do like to make it hard for ourselves in competitive sport dont we? for reference, here are pictures of Chunky Jess and Fatty Avil....   Holly 
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Otispunkmeyer
2,806 posts
24 months
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pablo said: I know most of the comments in this thread are in jest but its worth noting that this weekend it was reported that someone "high up" in the UKA had the audacity to recently call Jess Ennis a bit on the chunky side and Holly Avil - U23 World triathlon Champion - described how an eating disorder, brought on by coaches telling her she was overweight, forced her out of competition. We really do like to make it hard for ourselves in competitive sport dont we? for reference, here are pictures of Chunky Jess and Fatty Avil.... Holly Nowt wrong with either of them, nor the ladies in the OP (of which I wouldnt say no to any). Between mens health magazines, P3 models and catwalks I think a lot of people forget what actual people look like. We come in all shapes, all sizes and a lot of times it doesnt have any bearing on how good you are at a certain sport. Ok a big large woman isnt going to be any good at high jump but I am not on about extremes like that. What I mean is i've seen guys/girls who look buff and trim come out of a 200m swim looking like they've died on their arse. The number of time's Ive had a intimidatingly stacked bloke next to me on the blocks for the 100m freestyle swim only to find out its all show and no go are countless. I know guys who appear totally unathletic in appearance. Theyre not fatties of course, but they are not stereotypically ripped or have huge muscles but are on elite sports teams I could only dream about getting on. Serious, you look and think no way is that guy any good and then he shows you a clean pair of heels. You just cannot judge performance by looking at someone. You can't. I remember watching one guy once, big lad, bit of a gut going on and he'd squeezed himself into one of those full body swim suits. Thought it was classic all the gear, no idea. I had to eat my words when he demolished everyone over a 50 sprint in a relay. Gobsmacked wasnt the beginning of it. Borderline breach of physics!
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ewenm
24,461 posts
114 months
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pablo said: I know most of the comments in this thread are in jest but its worth noting that this weekend it was reported that someone "high up" in the UKA had the audacity to recently call Jess Ennis a bit on the chunky side and Holly Avil - U23 World triathlon Champion - described how an eating disorder, brought on by coaches telling her she was overweight, forced her out of competition. We really do like to make it hard for ourselves in competitive sport dont we? for reference, here are pictures of Chunky Jess and Fatty Avil.... Holly Jess did the best response to that this weekend by setting a new British record in the Heptathlon to go into the World Top-10 all time.  As for those complaining about the appearance of some of our athletes, put up or shut up Photos please and we'll rate you too, in your earned (not bought) TeamGB kit of course...
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obob
2,989 posts
63 months
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Otispunkmeyer said: Nowt wrong with either of them, nor the ladies in the OP (of which I wouldnt say no to any).
Between mens health magazines, P3 models and catwalks I think a lot of people forget what actual people look like. We come in all shapes, all sizes and a lot of times it doesnt have any bearing on how good you are at a certain sport.
Ok a big large woman isnt going to be any good at high jump but I am not on about extremes like that. What I mean is i've seen guys/girls who look buff and trim come out of a 200m swim looking like they've died on their arse. The number of time's Ive had a intimidatingly stacked bloke next to me on the blocks for the 100m freestyle swim only to find out its all show and no go are countless. I know guys who appear totally unathletic in appearance. Theyre not fatties of course, but they are not stereotypically ripped or have huge muscles but are on elite sports teams I could only dream about getting on. Serious, you look and think no way is that guy any good and then he shows you a clean pair of heels.
You just cannot judge performance by looking at someone. You can't.
I remember watching one guy once, big lad, bit of a gut going on and he'd squeezed himself into one of those full body swim suits. Thought it was classic all the gear, no idea. I had to eat my words when he demolished everyone over a 50 sprint in a relay. Gobsmacked wasnt the beginning of it. Borderline breach of physics! You do know people weren't judgicng their ability don't you? The yes no no yes wasn't in reference to whether they would win gold.
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