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TheHeretic

69,407 posts

125 months

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Go on then. Go looking. Decent chaps are the exception, not the norm, remember. You should be able to find several rapists, etc, on that list, which is an entire first team plus subs. YOU made the claim for this, so let's put it to the test.

NightRunner

4,303 posts

64 months

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TheHeretic said:
Just one team... Everton. Been in the top ten for much of the last decade.

Tim Howard
Tony Hibbert
Sylvan Distin
Philip Jagielka
Philip Neville
Leighton Baines
Leon Osman
Darren Gibson
Jack Rodwell
Ross Barkley
Seams Coleman
Johnny Heitinga
Steven Pienaar
Steven Naismith
Nikita Jelavic
Victor Anichebe (Olympic gold medalist wink)
Apostolos Velios
Marouanne Fellaini

So, which are the rapists, etc? That is a whole team. A whole team of well paid footballers. The floor is yours.
I may have misunderstood this.

Have you listed the entire Everton team to show not one is a rapist?


TheHeretic

69,407 posts

125 months

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NightRunner said:
I may have misunderstood this.

Have you listed the entire Everton team to show not one is a rapist?
He made a claim. I am giving him just one team with which to prove it. It seems he is going to bail out and bluster for a bit, but he has made some quite offensive claims, and I'd like him to prove it. We could do it for many teams, and we would simply end up with the conclusion it is a very small minority that are anything even vaguely near his claims.

Of he was a genuine poster, with a genuine contribution, who was not simply here to wum, or troll, he would accept the challenge to his claim. He won't though, because it isn't true.

Just to clarify, all he has to do is from that relatively tiny list back up this...

"If you think the bunch of half-witted adulterers, wife-beaters, thugs and rapists who make up the ranks of professional footballers deserve the same or greater respect then it speaks volumes for your judgement of character"

Shouldn't be hard.

Edited by TheHeretic on Friday 10th August 22:25

ClaphamGT3

3,461 posts

113 months

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TheHeretic said:
He made a claim. I am giving him just one team with which to prove it. It seems he is going to bail out and bluster for a bit, but he has made some quite offensive claims, and I'd like him to prove it. We could do it for many teams, and we would simply end up with the conclusion it is a very small minority that are anything even vaguely near his claims.

Of he was a genuine poster, with a genuine contribution, who was not simply here to wum, or troll, he would accept the challenge to his claim. He won't though, because it isn't true.

Just to clarify, all he has to do is from that relatively tiny list back up this...

"If you think the bunch of half-witted adulterers, wife-beaters, thugs and rapists who make up the ranks of professional footballers deserve the same or greater respect then it speaks volumes for your judgement of character"

Shouldn't be hard.

Edited by TheHeretic on Friday 10th August 22:25
Wow! You really are a prize twerp!

TheHeretic

69,407 posts

125 months

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ClaphamGT3 said:
Wow! You really are a prize twerp!
So I am a twerp for calling you on your ridiculous statement? Tell you what, when you feel like writing that st, try to have something in your mind with which to back it up, otherwise you'll look like a bit of an idiot when challenged.
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NightRunner

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64 months

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Wow, I was just checking as I assumed I had misunderstood.

Being honest mate, that is one weak argument.


TheHeretic

69,407 posts

125 months

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So, you have no issue with his claim, as well as this claim;

"To the poster above who pointed to examples of accomplished, professional, exemplar footballers - I don't doubt that they exist (and God they must hate the behaviour of their peers that tarnishes the whole sport) but they are the exceptions not the norm." about decent footballers being the exception, but my challenge to that claim is weak? Really?

Do you agree with him then, or just happy to let such a ridiculous claim go unchallenged?

ClaphamGT3

3,461 posts

113 months

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TheHeretic said:
So I am a twerp for calling you on your ridiculous statement? Tell you what, when you feel like writing that st, try to have something in your mind with which to back it up, otherwise you'll look like a bit of an idiot when challenged.
I think there's only one person on here making themselves look an idiot pal.

TheHeretic

69,407 posts

125 months

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ClaphamGT3 said:
I think there's only one person on here making themselves look an idiot pal.
Whatever... I'm out. Pricks who don't even have the intelligence to back up what they say are not worth the bother.

AM04ARO

2,741 posts

85 months

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Famous Everton player ( at the time) , hardly a role model.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/rooney-admits-sex-w...

Back to the op, from what I have seen even the losers at the Olympics give far more than our so called professional footballers in effort.

Compare Rooney at the South African World Cup lambasting the fans to any of our competitors at the Olumpics and there is no contest.

BJG1

1,932 posts

82 months

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Gtypical working class young men on 20k a week and some of them do stupid things. I for one am shocked. Wouldn't see rugby players doing similar when drunk would you? Certainly not someone like Mike Tindall... Some people are pricks, give them a shedload of cash and the limelight and you'll notice it more. Being a footballer doesn't make you an inherently bad person and I can't believe people are suggesting it does I've supported Norwich for years and can count the number of pricks on one hand. Sone people on here just like to feel better than others and it's pathetic. No reasoning with some

TheHeretic

69,407 posts

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As I said, a minority. (and who gives a fk if he shagged a granny? Really, what concern is it to anyone?)

BJG1

1,932 posts

82 months

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AM04ARO said:
Famous Everton player ( at the time) , hardly a role model.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/rooney-admits-sex-w...

Back to the op, from what I have seen even the losers at the Olympics give far more than our so called professional footballers in effort.

Compare Rooney at the South African World Cup lambasting the fans to any of our competitors at the Olumpics and there is no contest.
Compare a bad egg in football with good eggs in athletics and you have a disingenuous argument. Why not compare a drugs cheat with one of the many African footballers who pile over half their wages into improving the lives of others?

TheHeretic

69,407 posts

125 months

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*Cough*Tanya Harding*cough*

el stovey

13,602 posts

133 months

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TheHeretic said:
*Cough*Tanya Harding*cough*


I thought you "were out"?

TheHeretic

69,407 posts

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el stovey said:
I thought you "were out"?
I got back. Obviously.

I presume people have heard about the 2 Olympic athlete dismissed for racist comments made?

AM04ARO

2,741 posts

85 months

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I got back. Obviously.

I presume people have heard about the 2 Olympic athlete dismissed for racist comments made?
Sanction was immediate.

Suarez, Terry and Ferdinand seems to be somewhat longer?

BJG1

1,932 posts

82 months

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TheHeretic said:
I got back. Obviously.

I presume people have heard about the 2 Olympic athlete dismissed for racist comments made?
They are the exception though and not in anyway comparable with footballers, who are all racist, even the black ones

XCP

10,587 posts

98 months

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TheHeretic said:
*Cough*Tanya Harding*cough*
Tonya?

TheHeretic

69,407 posts

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AM04ARO said:
Sanction was immediate.

Suarez, Terry and Ferdinand seems to be somewhat longer?
Not the point. You chose an example of a guy at the SA world cup. I gave 2 of folks being thrown out of the games for racist comments. Suarez was banned for 8 games, Terry went to court, and Ferdinand is being investigated. Remember the Cuban who kicked a referee in the face during the last Olympics?
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