SPOTY Who will it be

[bad company]

technodup said:

Other than him I couldn't care less tbh, it's a nonsense prize and a nonsense, overdone, overpromoted event.

So don't watch it.

I really look forward to reliving the sporting highlights of the year. I hope Andy Murray wins this year.

[technodup]

bad company said:

So don't watch it.

I don't. Not since they expanded it to include every man and his dog.

[Adrian W]

bad company said:

So don't watch it.

I really look forward to reliving the sporting highlights of the year. I hope Andy Murray wins this year.

I hope Murray wins it, watching that match yesterday (him, a bat, a ball) instead of the grand prix, he was brilliant. this years F1 season has been mind numbing, and I was a fan.

[KrazyIvan]

SpeckledJim said:

Utterly perplexing.

Of ALL sports, becoming F1 World Champion is probably the easiest, once you're in the running. Perhaps dressage pips it.

First of all, only half your competitors are good enough to be there on merit.

To be in the running, you have to be in the best car, which is (almost completely) not down to you, apart from being hired in a lucky year.

Then, once you ARE in the running, you only have 1 guy to beat.

What utter rubbish..........

[SpeckledJim]

KrazyIvan said:

SpeckledJim said:

Utterly perplexing.

Of ALL sports, becoming F1 World Champion is probably the easiest, once you're in the running. Perhaps dressage pips it.

First of all, only half your competitors are good enough to be there on merit.

To be in the running, you have to be in the best car, which is (almost completely) not down to you, apart from being hired in a lucky year.

Then, once you ARE in the running, you only have 1 guy to beat.

What utter rubbish..........

If the Team Principals and agents and managers (and Bernie?) had made different decisions, and Vettel had gone to Mercedes, and Hamilton had gone to Ferrari, then Hamilton absolutely would not be World Champion today, would he?

See also: every possible permutation of the top 8 drivers.

[anonymous-user]

KrazyIvan said:

SpeckledJim said:

Utterly perplexing.

Of ALL sports, becoming F1 World Champion is probably the easiest, once you're in the running. Perhaps dressage pips it.

First of all, only half your competitors are good enough to be there on merit.

To be in the running, you have to be in the best car, which is (almost completely) not down to you, apart from being hired in a lucky year.

Then, once you ARE in the running, you only have 1 guy to beat.

What utter rubbish..........

Who could realistically win the championship apart from Hamilton or Rosberg? Nobody else was in the running. The Mercedes was light years ahead of everyone else. The team totally dominated F1 again this season.

[okgo]

Would Chris Froome have won his 2nd TDF without his team?

Wiggins 100% would not have when he won it and got SPOTY (though his Olympic gold was his own work for sure).

[KrazyIvan]

el stovey said:

KrazyIvan said:

SpeckledJim said:

Utterly perplexing.

Of ALL sports, becoming F1 World Champion is probably the easiest, once you're in the running. Perhaps dressage pips it.

First of all, only half your competitors are good enough to be there on merit.

To be in the running, you have to be in the best car, which is (almost completely) not down to you, apart from being hired in a lucky year.

Then, once you ARE in the running, you only have 1 guy to beat.

What utter rubbish..........

Who could realistically win the championship apart from Hamilton or Rosberg? Nobody else was in the running. The Mercedes was light years ahead of everyone else. The team totally dominated F1 again this season.

That does not detract from the skill required to pilot an F1 car or the hard work a driver has to put in to be in the physical condition to do so, or the mental condition to cope with the constant development and feed back required to stay at the front. To make it out to be nothing more than luck is rubbish.

[Nom de ploom]

Leeds Rhinos for team of the year :-)

[SpeckledJim]

KrazyIvan said:

el stovey said:

KrazyIvan said:

SpeckledJim said:

Utterly perplexing.

Of ALL sports, becoming F1 World Champion is probably the easiest, once you're in the running. Perhaps dressage pips it.

First of all, only half your competitors are good enough to be there on merit.

To be in the running, you have to be in the best car, which is (almost completely) not down to you, apart from being hired in a lucky year.

Then, once you ARE in the running, you only have 1 guy to beat.

What utter rubbish..........

Who could realistically win the championship apart from Hamilton or Rosberg? Nobody else was in the running. The Mercedes was light years ahead of everyone else. The team totally dominated F1 again this season.

That does not detract from the skill required to pilot an F1 car or the hard work a driver has to put in to be in the physical condition to do so, or the mental condition to cope with the constant development and feed back required to stay at the front. To make it out to be nothing more than luck is rubbish.

Doing the driving is very difficult, and the top 8 are all incredibly talented.

But actually winning (beating the other 7) is down to being in the right car. Once you're in the top 8, that is largely down to luck, and Bernie, which amounts to the same thing.

[johnxjsc1985]

with the word "personality" in the title I guess young Tyson Fury is going to be very popular

[anonymous-user]

okgo said:

Would Chris Froome have won his 2nd TDF without his team?

Wiggins 100% would not have when he won it and got SPOTY (though his Olympic gold was his own work for sure).

Froome won't win because he's from Africa and lives in Monaco. He could win 7 T de F on a Raleigh chopper but he won't ever win spoty.

[Lincsblokey]

No Tai Woffinden No jonathan rea and no Danny Kent (our first GP WC in many many years).... Three WORLD CHAMPIONS!!!! BBC You are a disgrace.....

[bad company]

Lincsblokey said:

No Tai Woffinden No jonathan rea and no Danny Kent (our first GP WC in many many years).... Three WORLD CHAMPIONS!!!! BBC You are a disgrace.....

So would you have included all 3, if so which 3 contestants would you have taken out?

[Dr Murdoch]

Lincsblokey said:

No Tai Woffinden No jonathan rea and no Danny Kent

...and no capital letters at the start of names

Edited by Dr Murdoch on Monday 30th November 20:53

[FunkyNige]

Lincsblokey said:

No Tai Woffinden No jonathan rea and no Danny Kent (our first GP WC in many many years).... Three WORLD CHAMPIONS!!!! BBC You are a disgrace.....

The BBC don't actually pick the list (or didn't in previous years at least), they ask a range of sports reporters and pick the top 10 out of the list the sports reporters picked.

edit - I'm talking complete horlicks, this year there was a panel who decided the list.

Edited by FunkyNige on Monday 30th November 20:48

[chrispmartha]

Made up for Kevin Sinfield, I don't think he will win or even if he should win but deserves his place in the shortlist, Rugby League often gets overlooked in things ike this but he is the ultimate professional in a very tough sport, I hope he comes in the top 3, he'll be getting my vote.

[Paul Dishman]

I'd be delighted if Lewis Hamilton won SPOTY again this year. It'd put more pressure on the BBC to retain F1, and the fact that "our" sport wins is validation for petrolheads. It also annoys the life out of Guardian readers

[bad company]

Paul Dishman said:

It also annoys the life out of Guardian readers

I'm not a fan of LH but worth him winning just for that.

[NoNeed]

SpeckledJim said:

KrazyIvan said:

el stovey said:

KrazyIvan said:

SpeckledJim said:

Utterly perplexing.

Of ALL sports, becoming F1 World Champion is probably the easiest, once you're in the running. Perhaps dressage pips it.

First of all, only half your competitors are good enough to be there on merit.

To be in the running, you have to be in the best car, which is (almost completely) not down to you, apart from being hired in a lucky year.

Then, once you ARE in the running, you only have 1 guy to beat.

What utter rubbish..........

Who could realistically win the championship apart from Hamilton or Rosberg? Nobody else was in the running. The Mercedes was light years ahead of everyone else. The team totally dominated F1 again this season.

That does not detract from the skill required to pilot an F1 car or the hard work a driver has to put in to be in the physical condition to do so, or the mental condition to cope with the constant development and feed back required to stay at the front. To make it out to be nothing more than luck is rubbish.

Doing the driving is very difficult, and the top 8 are all incredibly talented.

But actually winning (beating the other 7) is down to being in the right car. Once you're in the top 8, that is largely down to luck, and Bernie, which amounts to the same thing.

For a team to have the best car it must recieve the best feedback, this comes from the driver along with other aspects of set up. It isn't all abut power but the ability to use the power.