SPOTY Who will it be

SPOTY Who will it be

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hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Tuesday 8th December 2015
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They must be stting themselves that he'll win. Can you imagine what he'd say to Sue Barker or Gabby Logan?

bad company

18,608 posts

266 months

Tuesday 8th December 2015
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London424 said:
He didn't lose...he got shafted by the judges who called the first fight a draw. He got a rematch and knocked him out.

We all know that whoever puts these list things together had no clue of the background of Fury, but he won the world title a day or so before the announcement so shoved him on the list. I'm guessing they are regretting that now!
OK so he had 1 drawn match and 1 win. That's still not outstanding whatever your opinion of the judges.

Agree with you about Fury tho. I might have voted for him before I heard his recent comments.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Tuesday 8th December 2015
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hornetrider said:
They must be stting themselves that he'll win. Can you imagine what he'd say to Sue Barker or Gabby Logan?
It will be thanks to the power of jesus Christ our lord and followed by a song.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Tuesday 8th December 2015
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looks like over 90,000 have signed a petition to have him removed. BBC coming under intense pressure but his Uncle said he is just misunderstood. Word of advice freely given to Tyson shut the fk up

London424

12,829 posts

175 months

Tuesday 8th December 2015
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bad company said:
London424 said:
He didn't lose...he got shafted by the judges who called the first fight a draw. He got a rematch and knocked him out.

We all know that whoever puts these list things together had no clue of the background of Fury, but he won the world title a day or so before the announcement so shoved him on the list. I'm guessing they are regretting that now!
OK so he had 1 drawn match and 1 win. That's still not outstanding whatever your opinion of the judges.

Agree with you about Fury tho. I might have voted for him before I heard his recent comments.
It's not bad going though when you factor in he might not have been able to fight ever again.

In isolation a draw and a win isn't much to write about, but it's not like he won a UK title or something...he's a World Champion. Still pretty impressive in my book.

RoadRunner220

952 posts

193 months

Tuesday 8th December 2015
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bad company said:
London424 said:
He didn't lose...he got shafted by the judges who called the first fight a draw. He got a rematch and knocked him out.

We all know that whoever puts these list things together had no clue of the background of Fury, but he won the world title a day or so before the announcement so shoved him on the list. I'm guessing they are regretting that now!
OK so he had 1 drawn match and 1 win. That's still not outstanding whatever your opinion of the judges.
Like London424 said, it wasn't just any fight, it was a fight to become World Champion.

I just think that to come back from something that could have killed him, let alone ended his career, to become a World Champion is quite special. Add in the fact that his setback was because of a selfless act shows the character of the guy.

Whilst Fury has been coming out with the comments he has, Crolla has been visiting school kids and helping out at gyms in his local area. But then you never hear about the good things people do in the news, it's just the controversial comments that make the headlines.

I know opinions are like aholes, but I think he's much more deserving of a nomination for the award than Fury is.

bad company

18,608 posts

266 months

Tuesday 8th December 2015
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RoadRunner220 said:
I know opinions are like aholes, but I think he's much more deserving of a nomination for the award than Fury is.
I think my cat is more deserving of a nomination than Fury.

MitchmachineUAE

602 posts

172 months

Wednesday 9th December 2015
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Agree with the comments made about Crolla. If we are talking about the personality, never give up attitude etc. to come back and win a title having been on the receiving end of a close decision in the first fight he is up there. I hope they single him out for a special award or mention given what he has gone through to climb back to the top of his sport.

I have an issue with the term 'sports personality' though. Are we voting for the personality? Or the best sports person? If Murray wins it (as I predict he will) due to single handedly winning the Davis Cup and the amount of media coverage that has had recently then I can't think of a more dour Scotsman to win the award. Not really a media darling is he? Although I'd suggest his sporting achievement is probably the finest. Tough year though as Chris Froome, Jess Ennis and others have all had very fine years in their sports.

chrispmartha

15,499 posts

129 months

Wednesday 9th December 2015
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MitchmachineUAE said:
I have an issue with the term 'sports personality' though. Are we voting for the personality? Or the best sports person? If Murray wins it (as I predict he will) due to single handedly winning the Davis Cup and the amount of media coverage that has had recently then I can't think of a more dour Scotsman to win the award. Not really a media darling is he? Although I'd suggest his sporting achievement is probably the finest. Tough year though as Chris Froome, Jess Ennis and others have all had very fine years in their sports.
Personality has 3 different meanings, this always comes up ' how can so and so win it as he/she has no personality'.

The following two meanings from the dictionary clear it up.

A celebrity or famous person.

The quality or fact of being a person as distinct from a thing or animal.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

262 months

Wednesday 9th December 2015
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bad company said:
London424 said:
He didn't lose...he got shafted by the judges who called the first fight a draw. He got a rematch and knocked him out.

We all know that whoever puts these list things together had no clue of the background of Fury, but he won the world title a day or so before the announcement so shoved him on the list. I'm guessing they are regretting that now!
OK so he had 1 drawn match and 1 win. That's still not outstanding whatever your opinion of the judges.

Agree with you about Fury tho. I might have voted for him before I heard his recent comments.
What did he say?

Exactly please.

[This is a bit like the other media/social media jamboree being played out.]

Edit: Is this what you refer too?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/articl...

Edited by Mojocvh on Wednesday 9th December 15:32

944fan

4,962 posts

185 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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chrispmartha said:
Personality has 3 different meanings, this always comes up ' how can so and so win it as he/she has no personality'.

The following two meanings from the dictionary clear it up.

A celebrity or famous person.

The quality or fact of being a person as distinct from a thing or animal.
Exactly this. It is a gender neural term for a bod.

It is funny though to twist the meaning to point out that Andy Murray is miserable git and Lewis Hamilton has about as much personality as a beige wall.

epom

11,533 posts

161 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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Fury has to win it.... surely smile

bad company

18,608 posts

266 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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epom said:
Fury has to win it.... surely smile
After apparently saying that 'a woman's best place is in the kitchen or on her back'? He may have peed half of the voters with that quote.

RJB_666

1,677 posts

195 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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bad company said:
epom said:
Fury has to win it.... surely smile
After apparently saying that 'a woman's best place is in the kitchen or on her back'? He may have peed half of the voters with that quote.
Perhaps he didn't realise 'that half' could vote. Real shame that he's painted himself in this light. Massive achievement over shadowed.

Completely agree with other posts that Crolla is more deserving even though the achivement itself isn't 'as' great.

epom

11,533 posts

161 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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RJB_666 said:
bad company said:
epom said:
Fury has to win it.... surely smile
After apparently saying that 'a woman's best place is in the kitchen or on her back'? He may have peed half of the voters with that quote.
Perhaps he didn't realise 'that half' could vote. Real shame that he's painted himself in this light. Massive achievement over shadowed.

Completely agree with other posts that Crolla is more deserving even though the achivement itself isn't 'as' great.
:-) My post was rather in Jest. Agreed think he may have cut off his nose to spite face in relation to any advertising deals etc he would have gotten on the back of what was undoubtedly a massive achievement.

Kermit power

28,657 posts

213 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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Surely the absence of Rachel Atherton on the shortlist goes to show that the nominees are decided purely on the amount of TV coverage their sports get?

For those who don't know who she is, she is the 2015 women's Downhill Mountain Biking British and World Champion, and also won 6 out of 7 World Cup rounds, and finished in second place in the other.

I doubt any other British sportsperson has been so dominant in their sport this year, and to actually demonstrate some personality as well, at the moment of her crowning glory for the year, when any other sportsperson would've been up onto the podium like a rat up a drainpipe, she carried Emmeline Ragot - the only rider to beat her all season, who had announced her retirement through injury - onto the podium with her so that she could get the send off she deserved from the fans.

All in all, a pretty amazing athlete in a brutal sport which requires more nerve, skill and outright bravery than 99.9% of us will ever have, but doubtless one of many who just happens to be doing their thing in non-televised sports.

Adrian W

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13,875 posts

228 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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I still want Murray to get it but think it will be Hamilton

whoami

13,151 posts

240 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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Adrian W said:
I still want Murray to get it but think it will be Hamilton
50/1 Hamilton

4/6 Murray

Chrisgr31

13,483 posts

255 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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Adrian W said:
I still want Murray to get it but think it will be Hamilton
I dn't thik it will be Hamiloiton, I go for Chris Frome or Lizzie Armistead

Adrian W

Original Poster:

13,875 posts

228 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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Chrisgr31 said:
I dn't thik it will be Hamiloiton, I go for Chris Frome or Lizzie Armistead
Trouble is most people don't think Frome is British