SPOTY Who will it be
Discussion
Downward said:
At the end of the day, Hamilton, Froome, Fury, JEH, Mo, that swimmer guy can all claim to be the best in the world at what they do & have justified that in 2015. Murray can't.
This clearly shows how little you know of Murray's achievemenra!! He is no 2 in the world of tennis right now and he was absolutely instrumental in GB winning the Davis Cup (first time in over 70yrs) he never lost a match. His commitment and dedication to the Davis Cup alone shows him worthy of this award.bexVN said:
This clearly shows how little you know of Murray's achievemenra!! He is no 2 in the world of tennis right now and he was absolutely instrumental in GB winning the Davis Cup (first time in over 70yrs) he never lost a match. His commitment and dedication to the Davis Cup alone shows him worthy of this award.
Well said that man.
bad company said:
bexVN said:
This clearly shows how little you know of Murray's achievemenra!! He is no 2 in the world of tennis right now and he was absolutely instrumental in GB winning the Davis Cup (first time in over 70yrs) he never lost a match. His commitment and dedication to the Davis Cup alone shows him worthy of this award.
Well said that woman.Difficult one this year.
Murray is a worthy winner for his stellar achievement in carrying a team who really have no right to be winning Davis Cup, to actually win the thing for the first time in 70 years.
That said, Tyson Fury, who I absolutely do not rate as a boxer prior to that fight, went over to Germany and beat the undisputed champ all ends up in his own back yard in quite possibly one of the biggest shocks ever in heavyweight boxing. So perhaps he was unlucky to lose out.
Hamilton. Well, I like Hamilton even if I totally cannot relate to his lifestyle and the s
t he gets up to on social media. He is however a superb driver who I love to watch who had just become world champion again - for the 3rd time. That is some achievement!
One thing I will say is I'm pleased for Kevin Sinfield. 2nd place is admirable for someone in such a minority sport and he deserves his place as runner up.
Decent result all round imo.
Murray is a worthy winner for his stellar achievement in carrying a team who really have no right to be winning Davis Cup, to actually win the thing for the first time in 70 years.
That said, Tyson Fury, who I absolutely do not rate as a boxer prior to that fight, went over to Germany and beat the undisputed champ all ends up in his own back yard in quite possibly one of the biggest shocks ever in heavyweight boxing. So perhaps he was unlucky to lose out.
Hamilton. Well, I like Hamilton even if I totally cannot relate to his lifestyle and the s
t he gets up to on social media. He is however a superb driver who I love to watch who had just become world champion again - for the 3rd time. That is some achievement! One thing I will say is I'm pleased for Kevin Sinfield. 2nd place is admirable for someone in such a minority sport and he deserves his place as runner up.
Decent result all round imo.
this used to be a great night one to look forward to all year but its just not the same. I agree that
Andy Murray is a worthy winner but it has lost something for me maybe its the BBC typically messing about with something that didn't need changing. I guess the fact that most of these people are now very rich makes a difference.
Andy Murray is a worthy winner but it has lost something for me maybe its the BBC typically messing about with something that didn't need changing. I guess the fact that most of these people are now very rich makes a difference.
bexVN said:
Downward said:
At the end of the day, Hamilton, Froome, Fury, JEH, Mo, that swimmer guy can all claim to be the best in the world at what they do & have justified that in 2015. Murray can't.
This clearly shows how little you know of Murray's achievemenra!! He is no 2 in the world of tennis right now and he was absolutely instrumental in GB winning the Davis Cup (first time in over 70yrs) he never lost a match. His commitment and dedication to the Davis Cup alone shows him worthy of this award.Kevin Sinfield was the most deserving of the award but 2nd is still a huge success for rugby league
DannyScene said:
bexVN said:
Downward said:
At the end of the day, Hamilton, Froome, Fury, JEH, Mo, that swimmer guy can all claim to be the best in the world at what they do & have justified that in 2015. Murray can't.
This clearly shows how little you know of Murray's achievemenra!! He is no 2 in the world of tennis right now and he was absolutely instrumental in GB winning the Davis Cup (first time in over 70yrs) he never lost a match. His commitment and dedication to the Davis Cup alone shows him worthy of this award.Kevin Sinfield was the most deserving of the award but 2nd is still a huge success for rugby league
bexVN said:
Downward said:
At the end of the day, Hamilton, Froome, Fury, JEH, Mo, that swimmer guy can all claim to be the best in the world at what they do & have justified that in 2015. Murray can't.
This clearly shows how little you know of Murray's achievemenra!! He is no 2 in the world of tennis right now and he was absolutely instrumental in GB winning the Davis Cup (first time in over 70yrs) he never lost a match. His commitment and dedication to the Davis Cup alone shows him worthy of this award.Murray, deserved winner in my opinion. Did like Rutherford, until he did his camera piece.... lol
And who got the throw away quip about not being here tonight but is actually back at home, in Monaco....was that Froome?
Edited by Otispunkmeyer on Monday 21st December 12:10
hornetrider said:
One thing I will say is I'm pleased for Kevin Sinfield. 2nd place is admirable for someone in such a minority sport and he deserves his place as runner up.
The amount of mainstream media coverage that the game got last night was fantastic - from Sir Kev as an individual to the Rhinos as a team. Lizzie Jones is a phenomenally strong woman, and the story of how RL as a "family" have rallied around her and the twins has been amazing. If not for the young man who won it, I would have had Lizzie down as a strong contender for the Helen Rollason award. (No disagreement with the award at all though)The only downside from my point of view was the lack of actual "coverage" of the game. A crappy montage to introduce him and only mentioned the grand final and challenge cup wins on there - what about the league leaders shields and world club challenge wins?
I love RL as a spectacle, as a game and as a community - the same spirit shown after the tragic death of Danny Jones has recently been in evidence again, after a friend and teammate of mine tragically collapsed and died as he left the field after a game.
Adrian W said:
Has to be Murray this year, six APT titles, Wimbledon and no 1 in the world
If Andy Murray wins it ahead of Rachel Atherton, it will be the perfect demonstration of the fact that in sport, money talks.In tennis, Murray has won 1 out of 4 Grand Slams and I believe it's actually 8 APT titles, but that's out of over 60 events. He has also won the Olympic singles, which you forgot. Yes, it's a very impressive performance, and yes, it means he has ended the year as Britain's first number one ranked player, but it's not exactly crushing everyone at his feet.
Atherton, on the other hand, has completely and utterly destroyed everyone in her event. OK, Downhill Mountain Biking doesn't have the same exposure and marketing budget as tennis, and you need to go to Red Bull TV on the web to watch it, but even so, she's the current reigning Britsh and World Champion, she won every single one of this year's six round World Cup, and adding that to the four she won at the end of last season, she now has ten back to back victories, and nobody else is anywhere near touching her at the moment.
On top of that, unlike Mr Murray, she actually has a massive personality as well and does a vast amount to help develop the sport at grass roots level over and above just being seen as an inspiration by being good at the sport itself.
If she doesn't win, it will be a travesty of justice, and proof that "Sports Personality" is irrelevant in winning the award.
Kermit power said:
Adrian W said:
Has to be Murray this year, six APT titles, Wimbledon and no 1 in the world
If Andy Murray wins it ahead of Rachel Atherton, it will be the perfect demonstration of the fact that in sport, money talks.In tennis, Murray has won 1 out of 4 Grand Slams and I believe it's actually 8 APT titles, but that's out of over 60 events. He has also won the Olympic singles, which you forgot. Yes, it's a very impressive performance, and yes, it means he has ended the year as Britain's first number one ranked player, but it's not exactly crushing everyone at his feet.
Atherton, on the other hand, has completely and utterly destroyed everyone in her event. OK, Downhill Mountain Biking doesn't have the same exposure and marketing budget as tennis, and you need to go to Red Bull TV on the web to watch it, but even so, she's the current reigning Britsh and World Champion, she won every single one of this year's six round World Cup, and adding that to the four she won at the end of last season, she now has ten back to back victories, and nobody else is anywhere near touching her at the moment.
On top of that, unlike Mr Murray, she actually has a massive personality as well and does a vast amount to help develop the sport at grass roots level over and above just being seen as an inspiration by being good at the sport itself.
If she doesn't win, it will be a travesty of justice, and proof that "Sports Personality" is irrelevant in winning the award.
Not quite sure it's a travesty of justice.
There are probably many other people in minority sports that have achieved just as much if not more.
They won't win either.
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