SPOTY Who will it be
Discussion
mcelliott said:
Borroxs said:
Vardy and Leicester for me. Unbelievable story.
Murray's at the pinnacle of his sport, beating the world's best week in week out. Vardy and Leicester aren't.Glad to see Leicester won the team trophey though.
Dr Murdoch said:
Train in the States, but fly back and suffer with jet-lag for a pointless trophy that you may or not win?
(seeing it from his point of view, SPOTY ain't what it used to be)
Hence him winning it three f
king times
Why accept it then? Seems a little disrespectful to me, flying back and forth for him in 1st class can't be that hard. Why was his Mum there?(seeing it from his point of view, SPOTY ain't what it used to be)
Hence him winning it three f
king timesType R Tom said:
Dr Murdoch said:
Train in the States, but fly back and suffer with jet-lag for a pointless trophy that you may or not win?
(seeing it from his point of view, SPOTY ain't what it used to be)
Hence him winning it three fking times
Why accept it then? Seems a little disrespectful to me, flying back and forth for him in 1st class can't be that hard. Why was his Mum there?(seeing it from his point of view, SPOTY ain't what it used to be)
Hence him winning it three f
king timesIf I was in the running to win it I'd be pretty excited. But if I was world No.1 in a major sport, I can imagine this isn't quite the hot ticket we might imagine it to be.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think he's only been there in person once to accept the trophy.
He said before SPOTY it was unlikely he'd be there due to his prep in getting ready for the Aussie open and 2017 as a whole...to get off to the best possible start and to try and keep hold of no1. There is nobody more deserving for SPOTY than him for what he's achieved in an incredibly competitive and demanding sport and schedule.
The Aussie and French open titles have to be his target now to complete the full set.
Olympics - 2012 and 2016
US open - 2012
Wimbledon - 2013 and 2016
ATP tour finals - 2016
Davis cup - 2015
End of year no1 - 2016
However:
Aussie open 5 x finalist and French open finalist 2016... Amazing but counting against him unless he wins them.
To be held in the same breath as Federer, Nadal and Djokovic he knows he needs to win the full set and a couple more really. I don't see him as the poor fourth but a lot of people still do.
All the talk of Djokovic being below his best is true but It's equally about each players timing of being at the top of their game physically and mentally, Every player who won grand slams has peaked and then dropped their level, it's just a question of how long they peak for and if they are able to lift it again after a drop! The true greats can of course.
I believe Murray is at his peak only now so it will be interesting to see what he can do over the next year or two and if he can maintain his last 6 months of form. You can argue that Djokovic won against Murray more often in grand slam finals up to now because Murray was below his best. If he plays and beats Djokovic regularly in more finals is it because Djokovic is not playing his best or that Murray has lifted his level and is not allowing him to?
One things for sure the games between the top players are decided by a few points only and that more or less is calmness under pressure,shot selection and fitness, the first two being all down to the mental game but assisted by the third!!
I'm looking forward to 2017
He said before SPOTY it was unlikely he'd be there due to his prep in getting ready for the Aussie open and 2017 as a whole...to get off to the best possible start and to try and keep hold of no1. There is nobody more deserving for SPOTY than him for what he's achieved in an incredibly competitive and demanding sport and schedule.
The Aussie and French open titles have to be his target now to complete the full set.
Olympics - 2012 and 2016
US open - 2012
Wimbledon - 2013 and 2016
ATP tour finals - 2016
Davis cup - 2015
End of year no1 - 2016
However:
Aussie open 5 x finalist and French open finalist 2016... Amazing but counting against him unless he wins them.
To be held in the same breath as Federer, Nadal and Djokovic he knows he needs to win the full set and a couple more really. I don't see him as the poor fourth but a lot of people still do.
All the talk of Djokovic being below his best is true but It's equally about each players timing of being at the top of their game physically and mentally, Every player who won grand slams has peaked and then dropped their level, it's just a question of how long they peak for and if they are able to lift it again after a drop! The true greats can of course.
I believe Murray is at his peak only now so it will be interesting to see what he can do over the next year or two and if he can maintain his last 6 months of form. You can argue that Djokovic won against Murray more often in grand slam finals up to now because Murray was below his best. If he plays and beats Djokovic regularly in more finals is it because Djokovic is not playing his best or that Murray has lifted his level and is not allowing him to?
One things for sure the games between the top players are decided by a few points only and that more or less is calmness under pressure,shot selection and fitness, the first two being all down to the mental game but assisted by the third!!
I'm looking forward to 2017
Adrian W said:
It has to be Froome, even if it is a sport that the BBC don't cover and therefore won't promote him.
In fairness, I don't think the BBC can be accused on being biased against cycling. Hoy, Wiggins and Cavendish have all won it.They might be biased against Froome himself though - his achievements are well beyond those of Wiggins and Cavendish, IMO.
He's not much fun - maybe that's it?
He might win, not much has happened this year compared to other years.
Especially when Jermaine Defoe is currently 2nd favourite - http://www.paddypower.com/bet/sports-novelties/bbc...
Especially when Jermaine Defoe is currently 2nd favourite - http://www.paddypower.com/bet/sports-novelties/bbc...
FourWheelDrift said:
He might win, not much has happened this year compared to other years.
Especially when Jermaine Defoe is currently 2nd favourite - http://www.paddypower.com/bet/sports-novelties/bbc...
Society is becoming a brutal fEspecially when Jermaine Defoe is currently 2nd favourite - http://www.paddypower.com/bet/sports-novelties/bbc...
king place if being upset about the death of a child is becoming cause for an award!Edit: I also would disipute the Froome > Cavendish statement in my own way....one is a sprinter and one a GC rider. Cavendish - with the exception of Olympic Gold) has won everything it is possible for him to do.
In terms of 'strike rate' of available titles, few would be higher than Cavendish
Edited by Vocal Minority on Monday 24th July 12:17
FourWheelDrift said:
He might win, not much has happened this year compared to other years.
Especially when Jermaine Defoe is currently 2nd favourite - http://www.paddypower.com/bet/sports-novelties/bbc...
Hamilton will probably win the F1...Especially when Jermaine Defoe is currently 2nd favourite - http://www.paddypower.com/bet/sports-novelties/bbc...
Dr Murdoch said:
I think last year, or year before? When the general public voted he got 3%
He's just not liked.
Apparently (according to the press) - It's almost as if people like not liking him for some reason..... perhaps the spat with the TUE taking Sir Bradley lingers on or maybe people can't get over the Kenyan thing (c.f. Sir Mo & Salazar who seems to be untainted). He's just not liked.
I for one quite like him, he is straight up, a real fighter and slightly unconventional (in terms of background (mountain biking) and riding style (elbows)) and deserves way more credit than he gets - 4 TDFs is exceptional !
In today's world, if you don't go looking for publicity it is considered a bad thing but perhaps the opposite is actually true....
I think Sir Chris Froome is potentially a lot more inspirational than Sir Mo (when you read into the Salazar connections).
It's almost as if the press get to choose who the public like or not....
Bob
fat80b said:
Apparently (according to the press) - It's almost as if people like not liking him for some reason..... perhaps the spat with the TUE taking Sir Bradley lingers on or maybe people can't get over the Kenyan thing (c.f. Sir Mo & Salazar who seems to be untainted).
I for one quite like him, he is straight up, a real fighter and slightly unconventional (in terms of background (mountain biking) and riding style (elbows)) and deserves way more credit than he gets - 4 TDFs is exceptional !
In today's world, if you don't go looking for publicity it is considered a bad thing but perhaps the opposite is actually true....
I think Sir Chris Froome is potentially a lot more inspirational than Sir Mo (when you read into the Salazar connections).
It's almost as if the press get to choose who the public like or not....
Bob
I suspect it comes down to three things.I for one quite like him, he is straight up, a real fighter and slightly unconventional (in terms of background (mountain biking) and riding style (elbows)) and deserves way more credit than he gets - 4 TDFs is exceptional !
In today's world, if you don't go looking for publicity it is considered a bad thing but perhaps the opposite is actually true....
I think Sir Chris Froome is potentially a lot more inspirational than Sir Mo (when you read into the Salazar connections).
It's almost as if the press get to choose who the public like or not....
Bob
1. Very few people watch cycling.
2. Mo Farrah has at least lived in the UK.
3. Farrah does the Mobot, whereas Froome is a robot.
Froome's got no chance. Road cycling is not a 'British' sport, and although Wiggins won it the year he won the TDF he'd been heavily promoted via the BBC sponsored track (and Olympic) events. Same with Hoy, all BBC covered stuff. Plus Kenyan, obviously.
Non Olympic year, it'll be the usual suspects, Murray, Hamilton...
Non Olympic year, it'll be the usual suspects, Murray, Hamilton...
CooperD said:
Johanna Konta must be a leading contender this year especially if she wins the US Open.
I was just about to suggest her... bubbly personality, well liked by the BBC commentary team and the public at large. I'd certainly vote for her over another footballist or some-such
K50 DEL said:
CooperD said:
Johanna Konta must be a leading contender this year especially if she wins the US Open.
I was just about to suggest her... bubbly personality, well liked by the BBC commentary team and the public at large. I'd certainly vote for her over another footballist or some-such
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