SPOTY Who will it be

SPOTY Who will it be

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soupdragon1

4,083 posts

98 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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Paul Dishman said:
Dashnine said:
Adrian W said:
Three British drivers on the F1 grid and not a mention, or any other motorsport for that, but this is the BBC
And of course, Red Bull are an Austrian aren’t they…. Oh wait.
Disappointing that Verstappen didn’t win the Overseas award after the season he had.
Wasn’t the footballist who won abusing the referee a week or two back?
Surely you don't think show is still a credible award ceremony!? That ship sailed long ago. The fact its not even shown at the weekend in a prime viewing slot tells you everything you need to know.

Adrian W

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13,902 posts

229 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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soupdragon1 said:
Paul Dishman said:
Dashnine said:
Adrian W said:
Three British drivers on the F1 grid and not a mention, or any other motorsport for that, but this is the BBC
And of course, Red Bull are an Austrian aren’t they…. Oh wait.
Disappointing that Verstappen didn’t win the Overseas award after the season he had.
Wasn’t the footballist who won abusing the referee a week or two back?
Surely you don't think show is still a credible award ceremony!? That ship sailed long ago. The fact its not even shown at the weekend in a prime viewing slot tells you everything you need to know.
I’m not sure how it’s funded, but it’s a
Good day out for the BBC luvvies

flatlandsman

764 posts

8 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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I do not think it will be long before it is gotten rid of, surely anyone can see it has long since been a show about real achievement in UK sport, it has been basically about achievement in sport the BBC cover for a long time and is now a gender based box ticking exercise for the top executives.at the BBC to feel smug and show they are being as fair as possible after decades of treating women poorly in the BBC.

It is everywhere in BBC content, I listen to 5 Live on my commute they ring a fan to talk about a match. 9 times out of 10 it is a woman, is that representative of what you see at any football match?

I get it, i really do but times they go far too far with this stuff

Paul Dishman

4,718 posts

238 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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Downward said:
Adrian W said:
Three British drivers on the F1 grid and not a mention, or any other motorsport for that, but this is the BBC
Are you saying they are biased towards sports people who they actually show on TV ?

It’s a farce of an award anyway. Owen and Giggs previous winners ffs.
The BBC absolutely are biased towards the sports they show on TV. They’ve been desperate to hold onto Wimbledon which is why Tennis players have had so many nominations for both SPOTY and the overseas awards over the years.
The same applies nowadays for football, especially now they’re promoting the women’s game.

bad company

18,691 posts

267 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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I’m out of the country but very much looking forward to watching on catch up when I’m back.

I love SPOTY, reports of its demise have been greatly exaggerated. There’s always been moaners about who should and shouldn’t have won

g4ry13

17,058 posts

256 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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Should have awarded it to Sharron Davies.

darren f

982 posts

214 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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andyA700 said:
You don't think that a Women's Heptathlon World Champion is a strong contender?
I seriously couldn't see anyone better than KJT for the win.
Very like when Ryan Giggs won in 2009, when Jensen Button was F1 champion and Jessica Ennis Hill was Heptahlon World Champion - ridiculous.
VMT, fully agree. KJT becoming world champion after so many serious injury issues was a real achievement. Certainly compared to being part of a losing World Cup final team when (given the resources in Women’s football in England) anything less than winning it was effectively a failure. A complete farce of a result for SPOTY (imo), it amazes me that the British public could come to such a conclusion (…if indeed it was purely the public vote that ultimately decided it- the BBC’s desire to push the very limited selection of sports that they do cover does tend to encourage a slightly cynical viewpoint).

Little Pete

1,537 posts

95 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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darren f said:
VMT, fully agree. KJT becoming world champion after so many serious injury issues was a real achievement. Certainly compared to being part of a losing World Cup final team when (given the resources in Women’s football in England) anything less than winning it was effectively a failure. A complete farce of a result for SPOTY (imo), it amazes me that the British public could come to such a conclusion (…if indeed it was purely the public vote that ultimately decided it- the BBC’s desire to push the very limited selection of sports that they do cover does tend to encourage a slightly cynical viewpoint).
I think it’s been the case for a long time. I remember a quite lengthy interview with Greg Rusedski, winner of nothing of note, followed by a brief chat with Richard Burns who was the current world rally champion.

Randy Winkman

16,221 posts

190 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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But people cant really be expected to vote for things they don't really know about or care about. It's just a TV show.

Anyway, Graeme Obree should be SPOTY every year. That's obvious.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

248 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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Sports Personality of the year.

Not best winner of the year.

KJT comes across like some kind of wet blanket I thought.


Scabutz

7,666 posts

81 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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TTmonkey said:
Sports Personality of the year.

Not best winner of the year.

KJT comes across like some kind of wet blanket I thought.
Also it's a popular vote, and lots of people vote for who they like based on the sport they watch. That's what I did. I like cricket, I like Stuart Broad, so voted for him. Didn't do any analysis on who deserved it more.

Football and Cricket have the highest number of viewers and so will always have an advantage. Athletics is a lot lower in terms of viewership.

theplayingmantis

3,843 posts

83 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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Square Leg said:
Mary Earps then.
Well deserved.
Why is it well deserved? Best PR yes. What has she done to deserve it? Won anything, conceded a terrible goal vs. Holland?

Baffled by such a statement.

theplayingmantis

3,843 posts

83 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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If anyone actually thinks its not engineered by the BBC they are a tad naive. People don't vote anymore. Not since Bob Nudd won the popular vote but the BBC changed the rules to stop him...


Dingu

3,813 posts

31 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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Thread of miserable old scrooges. What a surprise.

bad company

18,691 posts

267 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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theplayingmantis said:
If anyone actually thinks its not engineered by the BBC they are a tad naive. People don't vote anymore. Not since Bob Nudd won the popular vote but the BBC changed the rules to stop him...
You really believe that the BBC rig the vote? yikes

theplayingmantis

3,843 posts

83 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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Dingu said:
Thread of miserable old scrooges. What a surprise.
who were you before you were banned?

theplayingmantis

3,843 posts

83 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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bad company said:
theplayingmantis said:
If anyone actually thinks its not engineered by the BBC they are a tad naive. People don't vote anymore. Not since Bob Nudd won the popular vote but the BBC changed the rules to stop him...
You really believe that the BBC rig the vote? yikes
hehe

theplayingmantis

3,843 posts

83 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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theplayingmantis said:
Dingu said:
Thread of miserable old scrooges. What a surprise.
who were you before you were banned?
Actually i don't care. But rather than post disagreeable soundbites as you do all over lots of threads, please elaborate and explain why this is full of miserable scrooges?

Earps has some 'character' no disputing, jimmy bullard was full of character but never won spoty...

of the crazy shortlist how KJT hasnt won is just nonsense given her achievements.

bad company

18,691 posts

267 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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theplayingmantis said:
bad company said:
theplayingmantis said:
If anyone actually thinks its not engineered by the BBC they are a tad naive. People don't vote anymore. Not since Bob Nudd won the popular vote but the BBC changed the rules to stop him...
You really believe that the BBC rig the vote? yikes
hehe
OMG you really do believe it.

Square Leg

14,708 posts

190 months

Wednesday 20th December 2023
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theplayingmantis said:
Square Leg said:
Mary Earps then.
Well deserved.
Why is it well deserved? Best PR yes. What has she done to deserve it? Won anything, conceded a terrible goal vs. Holland?

Baffled by such a statement.
I was being slightly sarcastic, although she appears to have become a massive role model for girls wanting to play football.

I think Broad should’ve won it - he’s achieved much more over many years than the other two (and I’m a cricket player and Notts supporter).

All that aside, I see Barton really has had a meltdown, so alls well that ends well.

I do feel the whole concept is in its death throes- this used to be the flagship of Christmas at the BBC always held on the last Saturday night before Christmas.
Now it’s pushed to a Tuesday night.

Edited by Square Leg on Wednesday 20th December 23:39