The Tennis Thread
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Patent said:
Are you going?
Looks like it's on!
Saw some great tennis on Friday and Saturday - have not long been back and will be watching the singles tomorrow on TV.Looks like it's on!
Edmund looks a serious player - his backhand is currently a weak point and needs some work, but when his confidence was high in the first two sets, he looked a potential top 20 player. Such a shame that mentally he fell apart on Friday, although Goffin did improve significantly as the match went on.
sidicks said:
Saw some great tennis on Friday and Saturday - have not long been back and will be watching the singles tomorrow on TV.
Edmund looks a serious player - his backhand is currently a weak point and needs some work, but when his confidence was high in the first two sets, he looked a potential top 20 player. Such a shame that mentally he fell apart on Friday, although Goffin did improve significantly as the match went on.
Goffin is a quality player - but he looks too slight to mix it with the top top players. Murray should win, he only lost narrowly at the French in the semi finals to Djokovic. Clay is far from his strongest surface but he seems to have found a way to play on the dirt. He won back to back titles this year and scalped Nadal in the final of one of them. Edmund looks a serious player - his backhand is currently a weak point and needs some work, but when his confidence was high in the first two sets, he looked a potential top 20 player. Such a shame that mentally he fell apart on Friday, although Goffin did improve significantly as the match went on.
Still, it wouldn't be Murray if he didn't make life difficult for himself - Murray in 4/5 sets!
Patent said:
Goffin is a quality player - but he looks too slight to mix it with the top top players. Murray should win, he only lost narrowly at the French in the semi finals to Djokovic. Clay is far from his strongest surface but he seems to have found a way to play on the dirt. He won back to back titles this year and scalped Nadal in the final of one of them.
Still, it wouldn't be Murray if he didn't make life difficult for himself - Murray in 4/5 sets!
Agree totally.Still, it wouldn't be Murray if he didn't make life difficult for himself - Murray in 4/5 sets!
However, Murray wants this badly, and therefore the pressure he will put on himself will be immense. I think he'll do it, but I think there will be lots of ups and downs and it will be a stressful watch for the rest of us! Let's hope I'm wrong.
truck71 said:
Sorry to be a killjoy here but WTF is the point of the Davis cup? We've got a great player in a team of average players beating never been heard ofs. What am I missing?
Tennis competition. It's been going for 115 years. We haven't won it for 79 years until today. It's a big deal. You haven't heard of the No.16 tennis player in the world? Pay attention at the back.
truck71 said:
Sorry to be a killjoy here but WTF is the point of the Davis cup? We've got a great player in a team of average players beating never been heard ofs. What am I missing?
No different to other Davis Cup teams, each one has it's star. Previous Davis Cup champions were Switzerland, name Federer's 2014 team mate?FourWheelDrift said:
No different to other Davis Cup teams, each one has it's star. Previous Davis Cup champions were Switzerland, name Federer's 2014 team mate?
Probably not the best example there...Federer (word number 3) is lucky enough to have the world number 4 as his Davis cup team mate. I agree with your point though, it shows off tennis can be a highly competitive and entertaining sport even if the superstars aren't playing each other.The big players can't all play the Davis Cup, in previous years particular players or countries have entered stronger line ups in order to win it.
Murray is the only one of the "top 4" not to have won it, and now he has! Yay.
Separately to that I do feel that the scheduling needs looking at. Playing it every year is a bit mad, every other year at the most might make it bit more special and teams could enter stronger teams. Holding the final a week after the ATP finals doesn't help either.
Murray is the only one of the "top 4" not to have won it, and now he has! Yay.
Separately to that I do feel that the scheduling needs looking at. Playing it every year is a bit mad, every other year at the most might make it bit more special and teams could enter stronger teams. Holding the final a week after the ATP finals doesn't help either.
GG89 said:
Robbo66 said:
Murray playing well, too physical for Goffin. He is still very difficult to warm to though.
You don't need to like him as a person but respect him for what he is, a bloody cracking tennis player.Edited by Robbo66 on Monday 30th November 07:02
If they aren't fixing they are doping (allegedly).
beeb said:
Secret files exposing evidence of widespread suspected match fixing at the top level of world tennis, including at Wimbledon, can be revealed by the BBC and BuzzFeed News.
Over the last decade 16 players who have ranked in the top 50 have been repeatedly flagged to the tennis integrity unit over suspicions they have thrown matches.
All of the players, including winners of Grand Slam titles, were allowed to continue competing.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/35319202Over the last decade 16 players who have ranked in the top 50 have been repeatedly flagged to the tennis integrity unit over suspicions they have thrown matches.
All of the players, including winners of Grand Slam titles, were allowed to continue competing.
BlackLabel said:
If they aren't fixing they are doping (allegedly).
Would be interesting to know the names of the Grand Slam winners who are allegedly involved in this. Given those outside the top 100 don't exactly make a great living from the sport I can see there might be a temptation for them to get involved in something dubious but I can't see a top ranked player having anything to do with it; they've worked hard to get to the top of the sport - and as a consequence earn enough not to need any match fixing bungs - so why risk their reputation with something like this?beeb said:
Secret files exposing evidence of widespread suspected match fixing at the top level of world tennis, including at Wimbledon, can be revealed by the BBC and BuzzFeed News.
Over the last decade 16 players who have ranked in the top 50 have been repeatedly flagged to the tennis integrity unit over suspicions they have thrown matches.
All of the players, including winners of Grand Slam titles, were allowed to continue competing.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/35319202Over the last decade 16 players who have ranked in the top 50 have been repeatedly flagged to the tennis integrity unit over suspicions they have thrown matches.
All of the players, including winners of Grand Slam titles, were allowed to continue competing.
JNW1 said:
Would be interesting to know the names of the Grand Slam winners who are allegedly involved in this. Given those outside the top 100 don't exactly make a great living from the sport I can see there might be a temptation for them to get involved in something dubious but I can't see a top ranked player having anything to do with it; they've worked hard to get to the top of the sport - and as a consequence earn enough not to need any match fixing bungs - so why risk their reputation with something like this?
You are using good sense and logic. For some reason, it doesn't always work that way.If there is little or ineffectual oversight, some will cheat or look to other ways of increasing their income. If it was need that generated such behaviour one might feel sympathetic. However, it is greed.
If you look at other sports, some sports had endemic drugs taking because the regulators and disciplinary bodies refuse to take action.
If there was no oversight in a sport, it would be remarkable if there was no cheating.
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