The Tennis Thread

The Tennis Thread

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Hub

6,431 posts

198 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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Presumably there could potentially be a weakness there now, and if he injures his hip again he will be finished - so he's just being cautious.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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Hub said:
Presumably there could potentially be a weakness there now, and if he injures his hip again he will be finished - so he's just being cautious.
Yes, but he shouldn't be back on the competitive court in that case. Every sport I've ever known has always insisted you don't come back before you are 100% fit. He has done that and is now making himself out to be some sort of tortured hero or at least the media are.

NRS

22,135 posts

201 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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cb1965 said:
Hub said:
Presumably there could potentially be a weakness there now, and if he injures his hip again he will be finished - so he's just being cautious.
Yes, but he shouldn't be back on the competitive court in that case. Every sport I've ever known has always insisted you don't come back before you are 100% fit. He has done that and is now making himself out to be some sort of tortured hero or at least the media are.
That's rubbish. I'm sure it happens with others, just since they're not a big British star it's not reported. You can only get real match fitness by playing matches. But when they're too close together there's not point in risking injury for a small tournament. He also needs to move up the rankings too. So getting even a few games should help improve him all the time, as long as he doesn't overdo it.

Blackpuddin

16,483 posts

205 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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NRS said:
cb1965 said:
Hub said:
Presumably there could potentially be a weakness there now, and if he injures his hip again he will be finished - so he's just being cautious.
Yes, but he shouldn't be back on the competitive court in that case. Every sport I've ever known has always insisted you don't come back before you are 100% fit. He has done that and is now making himself out to be some sort of tortured hero or at least the media are.
That's rubbish. I'm sure it happens with others, just since they're not a big British star it's not reported. You can only get real match fitness by playing matches. But when they're too close together there's not point in risking injury for a small tournament. He also needs to move up the rankings too. So getting even a few games should help improve him all the time, as long as he doesn't overdo it.
Good friend of mine is a world-renowned sports photographer specialising in athletics and cycling. He told me that top class athletes are 'injured' pretty much all the time. It's all about managing the injuries.

spikeyhead

17,300 posts

197 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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Blackpuddin said:
Good friend of mine is a world-renowned sports photographer specialising in athletics and cycling. He told me that top class athletes are 'injured' pretty much all the time. It's all about managing the injuries.
I'd be amazed if more than two rugby players in a match would genuinely be injury free.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Friday 31st August 2018
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Umpire in trouble for coaching Nick Kyrgios mid match.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/45375202

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/aug/30/nick...


Edited by BlackLabel on Friday 31st August 21:50

abzmike

8,344 posts

106 months

Saturday 1st September 2018
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BlackLabel said:
Umpire in trouble for coaching Nick Kyrgios mid match.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/45375202

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/aug/30/nick...


Edited by BlackLabel on Friday 31st August 21:50
It was pretty ridiculous.... no idea what the umpire was thinking. If I’d have been the other player I’d have been standing there saying ‘WTF?’ or words to that effect... Kyrgios is a talented player but too often a petulant child (so will likely not reach his potential), but shouldn’t be getting kid glove treatment like this.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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Looks like another Nadal/Djokovic Slam final coming up.

Poor Federer’s body let him down the other night although to be fair players half his age have been struggling with the conditions at the US Open this year.

JagLover

42,381 posts

235 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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BlackLabel said:
Looks like another Nadal/Djokovic Slam final coming up.

Poor Federer’s body let him down the other night although to be fair players half his age have been struggling with the conditions at the US Open this year.
He would first need to be in a position to be drawn into a long battle of attrition.

The courts don't help and a few rounds in one of the commentators said the courts were playing so slow that Federer didn't have much of a chance.

I think as well that not only the physical aspect suffers with age, but the mental as well. Federer has clearly been struggling to handle stress all year.

NRS

22,135 posts

201 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Jeez, what a mess and such a shame for Osaka.

abzmike

8,344 posts

106 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Serena got what has been coming to her for a while. She has all the wins and all the money in the world, but very little class.

poo at Paul's

14,143 posts

175 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Ban the bh!! Seriously, so far up her own arse. She thinks she is bigger than the game, but when she had a sprog, the game continued.
I wish she would fk right off tbh.

And as for the crowd booing at the presentation. What a bunch of unsporting s. "best crowd in the world" according to the petulant Williams!!

Edited by poo at Paul's on Saturday 8th September 23:49

Horsey McHorseface

2,533 posts

184 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Why did she get the game docked? For calling the ump a thief? Sounds OTT from the ump.

NRS

22,135 posts

201 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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TV seems to show him coaching, Mouratoglou said he was coaching... Serena says she wasn't being coached.

And disgusting from the crowd. Boo a decision perhaps, but don't ruin someone's dream of winning their first Grand Slam.

NRS

22,135 posts

201 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Horsey McHorseface said:
Why did she get the game docked? For calling the ump a thief? Sounds OTT from the ump.
Summary from BBC:

First Serena Williams was given a code violation for coaching when her coach Patrick Mouratoglou appeared to make a gesture to her.
Serena argued with the umpire saying "I don't cheat" and then the game resumed.
A few games later Serena Williams smashed her racquet after losing a game. She was given a violation. This one meant Osaka was awarded a point.
Serena then argued with the umpire again. She said "you owe me an apology" among other things.
Serena then argued again and called umpire Carlos Ramos a "thief".
As a result Ramos gave Serena another violation for verbal abuse. This meant Osaka was awarded a game.
Serena then called for the tournament referee and was crying on court.
No further action was taken by the referee and two games later Osaka sealed the win.

poo at Paul's

14,143 posts

175 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Horsey McHorseface said:
Why did she get the game docked? For calling the ump a thief? Sounds OTT from the ump.
Having been caught being coached, then smashing a racket up, having a point penalty, she then called him a thief and then told him he would "never work on one of HER courts ever again". Stupid cow I'd have DQ'd here there and then. Disgraceful. Like McEnroe, only with a bigger lunchbox! biggrin

NRS

22,135 posts

201 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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She now said it was due to sexism basically.

Leithen

10,868 posts

267 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Sadly Williams has form for this kind of behaviour - remember the line judge incident?

Awful behaviour, that fully deserves a disrepute charge and ban.

Won't happen though.

In the absence of any apology or ban, perhaps Wimbledon could politely decline to accept any entrance to next years event.

NRS

22,135 posts

201 months

Sunday 9th September 2018
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anonymous said:
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She's similar to Sebastian Vettel. Nice, can be funny etc when doing well. If they lose or feel they have been slighted then it can go badly wrong - what we saw tonight, or for example Vettel deliberately driving into the side of Hamilton. They also get off with it a bit more as they're such big names so the sport won't really punish them due to it dropping the popularity with their fans.

Justices

3,681 posts

164 months

Sunday 9th September 2018
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Was probably me, which she is. When she’s in competition mode though she turns into an absolute beast. You daren’t say hello or look her way in the player’s tunnel that’s for sure!

Very happy for Osaka getting her first (of many to come) slams, that was my pick after seeing how she played Serena in their previous match. She’s not unbeatable, far from it, but most of women play a very similar game with very little shot variety. Serena eats that up all day long.

I really don’t like the tournaments and media overhyping, overlooking and not giving the due respect to athletes beside the 4-5 they spend their entire marketing budgets on promoting. The other players don’t dedicate their lives to simple exist to fill the draw..

ETA: Having just read about the award ceremony just heightens my contempt.

USTA Predisdent’s ceremony speach: “Perhaps it’s not the finish we were looking for today,” Adams said, “but Serena, you are a champion of all champions.” Addressing the crowd, Adams added, “This mama is a role model and respected by all.”

Followed by Serena:

“Let’s try to make this the best moment we can,” she said in part, “and we’ll get through it . . . let’s not boo anymore. We’re gonna get through this and let’s be positive, so congratulations, Naomi.”

Osaka accepted her trophy while choking back tears. She never smiled. When asked if her childhood dream of playing against Williams matched the reality, she politely sidestepped the question.

“I’m sorry,” Osaka said. “I know that everyone was cheering for her and I’m sorry it had to end like this.”

She turned to Williams. “I’m really grateful I was able to play with you,” Osaka said. “Thank you.” She bowed her head to Williams, and Williams just took it — no reciprocation, no emotion.

Edited by Justices on Sunday 9th September 02:36