The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters

The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters

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G600

1,479 posts

187 months

Friday 6th June 2014
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Matt Harper said:
What you state here shows excellent discipline and makes good sense. However, a weapon designed for use as a home defense tool, for instance, is pretty much an ornament if it's not loaded.
I am by no means in fear of attack from anyone, but since I choose to keep a shotgun in the house to mitigate against a home invasion and concealed carry when out and about, for personal protection, my guns are always loaded. As a result, very strict discipline is required in their handling.
I don't want to provoke an argument or anything, but is Florida really that bad that you feel the need to arm yourself?

Matt Harper

6,620 posts

201 months

Friday 6th June 2014
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Strange that you are concerned that a simple and quite reasonable question would provoke an argument, but the answer is - sometimes, yes.
It might be more appropriate to take the discussion elsewhere in that this is a sport-shooting thread. I only contributed in response to the shocking video - and the caveat that for people who utilize firearms for purposes other than sport, it might be quite reasonable for them to be in a locked and loaded state, versus completely safe, but then ineffective.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

204 months

Friday 6th June 2014
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Surely full mag but empty chamber is a reasonable compromise on self loading firearms?

Matt Harper

6,620 posts

201 months

Friday 6th June 2014
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mrmr96 said:
Surely full mag but empty chamber is a reasonable compromise on self loading firearms?
A good point - and I must admit, I always felt the same way. I was never very comfortable carrying with a chambered round. However, my trainer (who also happens to be my daughter) persuaded me otherwise. In a situation so dire that one is forced to draw, a firearm that is not 'locked and loaded' might as well be unloaded, the rationale being that "while you're rackin', the bad guy's crackin".

Still, compromise, I do. I use a MIC holster device, which is a trigger cover that snaps over the trigger guard and has a lanyard that is attached to the wearer. Depending on the length of the lanyard, the cover snaps away from the trigger guard as the gun is drawn. The idea stems from the need to make a 'Mexican carried' (pocketed, rather than holstered) pistol less capable of blowing the carrier's balls off inadvertently.

In addition my primary CCW pistol has both a grip and trigger safety, meaning that unless you have proper control of it, it's not going to go bang anyway.



mrmr96

13,736 posts

204 months

Friday 6th June 2014
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In your particular case you've found a way around it. My comment was also in reference to those shotguns falling over and going off in the video posted.

G600

1,479 posts

187 months

Saturday 7th June 2014
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Matt Harper said:
Strange that you are concerned that a simple and quite reasonable question would provoke an argument
Only because I've seen it happen on here so many times unfortunately.

Matt Harper

6,620 posts

201 months

Saturday 7th June 2014
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Understood - and I suppose it's a matter of interpretation in distinguishing debate and argument.

smack

9,729 posts

191 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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Been busy reloading - all empty!




Red ones go faster? This case, yes! Reloaded some tracers so a mate can go shoot APC's and Tanks. On the left is a 5.56x45 for comparison, with a 7.62x51 and 300 Win Mag both topped with tracer bullets.


Whitefly Swatter

1,114 posts

199 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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One of my toys!

Don1

15,950 posts

208 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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Just had my first shoot at LVSA - love crowd, great to be shooting again. smile

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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mrmr96 said:
In your particular case you've found a way around it. My comment was also in reference to those shotguns falling over and going off in the video posted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhxqIITtTtU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhxqIITtTtU

Seen this...?

Zebrano

820 posts

215 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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Don1 said:
Just had my first shoot at LVSA - love crowd, great to be shooting again. smile
Good to hear it chap. How well did you do?


Bill

52,790 posts

255 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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Whitefly Swatter said:
One of my toys!
What's that?

timbobalob

335 posts

242 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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Bill said:
Whitefly Swatter said:
One of my toys!
What's that?
Not sure, but my guess would be a .308 Remington action set up for FTR?

Prepared to be completely wrong though! smile

Bill

52,790 posts

255 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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Aha. (FTR??)

StangGT

3,925 posts

269 months

Don1

15,950 posts

208 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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Zebrano said:
Good to hear it chap. How well did you do?
Equally as bad as the chap with me.... biggrin

Whitefly Swatter

1,114 posts

199 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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timbobalob said:
Bill said:
Whitefly Swatter said:
One of my toys!
What's that?
Not sure, but my guess would be a .308 Remington action set up for FTR?

Prepared to be completely wrong though! smile
its a Remmington 700 in 308 in a XLR stock with a sightron 8-32 scope mounted in burris signature rings, and a third eye bipod. oh and a dolphin single shot magazine follower.

Wobbly

550 posts

173 months

Saturday 21st June 2014
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smack said:
Red ones go faster? This case, yes! Reloaded some tracers so a mate can go shoot APC's and Tanks. On the left is a 5.56x45 for comparison, with a 7.62x51 and 300 Win Mag both topped with tracer bullets.

Hi Smack,

Have you any .308 tracer ?

I need some for next Thursday !!! You can guess where I'm going smile



Edited by Wobbly on Saturday 21st June 06:52

Dan_The_Man

1,061 posts

239 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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A couple of PH members having fun instructing at last weeks H4H charity shoots, lots of noise was made.