The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters
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Lack of time really - used to shoot on the military ranges at Lydd and Hythe as well as at Bisley.
In the end it was taking up whole days/weekends and when the kids came along I couldn't really keep devoting that amount of time to it.
Also moved house and the £5k I got for that rifle and my reloading gear came in useful!
In the end it was taking up whole days/weekends and when the kids came along I couldn't really keep devoting that amount of time to it.
Also moved house and the £5k I got for that rifle and my reloading gear came in useful!
Question for the shotgun owners:
Been clay shooting a couple of times with my brother in law and am enjoying it and am now considering getting a licence and an over and under gun of my own.
Looking at the guntrader site and there seems to be plenty of choice around the second hand sub £500 mark.
I'm more interested in getting something OK second hand than say a new Revo gun which may not hold such value if I want to move it on for something better in the future.
What makes should I be looking for in that second hand price range that are decent for some clay shooting?
Ta.
Been clay shooting a couple of times with my brother in law and am enjoying it and am now considering getting a licence and an over and under gun of my own.
Looking at the guntrader site and there seems to be plenty of choice around the second hand sub £500 mark.
I'm more interested in getting something OK second hand than say a new Revo gun which may not hold such value if I want to move it on for something better in the future.
What makes should I be looking for in that second hand price range that are decent for some clay shooting?
Ta.
One of my shotguns is a Lanber Sporter and I honestly think they are cracking value for money. A couple of my mates have them as well and swear by them.
I paid £350 for an absolutely mint 5 year old Sporter that had probably only ever seem a few boxes of cartridges through it. Came with full set of chokes and other bits and pieces.
When you see one you will struggle to believe the price of them.
You often see them come up for £300-500.
I paid £350 for an absolutely mint 5 year old Sporter that had probably only ever seem a few boxes of cartridges through it. Came with full set of chokes and other bits and pieces.
When you see one you will struggle to believe the price of them.
You often see them come up for £300-500.
Only had my SGL for around 6months , I am also thinking a of a second gun for clays as my first is a pump. I too have heard good things about Lanber's for the money & that kind of budget should get an really good one. They seem to keep their money fairly well too.
Not quite the right time for me just yet, but I would be looking for something like this in a few months time. Would also quite fancy a Miroku if I can stretch to one ( £500 might just get you one )
http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/29766...
Not quite the right time for me just yet, but I would be looking for something like this in a few months time. Would also quite fancy a Miroku if I can stretch to one ( £500 might just get you one )
http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/29766...
A friend of mine just bought a Lanber Sporter for £200.
It's quite a bit older than mine but in really quite nice condition, perfectly working. Was missing the wallet of spare chokes and the choke key which is why it was cheap, but for the money you can't complain.
It's a nice looking O/U that you can take out rough shooting or up the fields and won't really get upset if it gets dropped, scratched or chucked in the back of the pick up.
A mate has just sold his 2 cheaper guns and bought an absolutely as-new £1200 Beretta Ultralight, and whilst it's a really nice gun, he now complains he is paranoid every time he comes out with us that it's going get to get scratched or damaged.
It's kind of taken the fun out of it and he is now looking for another Lanber or similar to sit alongside the Beretta in his cabinet.
There's something to be said for owning a cheaper gun.
One thing I would recommend is joining your local farming and shooting 'For Sale' groups on Facebook as there are loads of guns being sold on those places all the time. I've bought 2 guns off Facebook in the last few months.
It's quite a bit older than mine but in really quite nice condition, perfectly working. Was missing the wallet of spare chokes and the choke key which is why it was cheap, but for the money you can't complain.
It's a nice looking O/U that you can take out rough shooting or up the fields and won't really get upset if it gets dropped, scratched or chucked in the back of the pick up.
A mate has just sold his 2 cheaper guns and bought an absolutely as-new £1200 Beretta Ultralight, and whilst it's a really nice gun, he now complains he is paranoid every time he comes out with us that it's going get to get scratched or damaged.
It's kind of taken the fun out of it and he is now looking for another Lanber or similar to sit alongside the Beretta in his cabinet.
There's something to be said for owning a cheaper gun.
One thing I would recommend is joining your local farming and shooting 'For Sale' groups on Facebook as there are loads of guns being sold on those places all the time. I've bought 2 guns off Facebook in the last few months.
muppetdave said:
johnbaz said:
A couple more incoming 
A lovely Crosman 600 Semi auto...
Fairly certain that's what my Dad's got stuffed away at the back of one cabinetA lovely Crosman 600 Semi auto...
These are a little pellet fussy due to the indexing system, I tried some pellets in my garage, found the ones that worked so I went to the range, loaded up and.... The Bleddy thing was jamming more than Bob Marley!!
I've acquired a few more since my last visit..
1923 BSA Standard at the left and 1959 BSA meteor mk1 in nickel plate at the right..
.177 Diana mod52 at left, Sussex Armouries Jackal at right..
John
Question for the clay shooters: Can you go on your own?
I've done target shooting many years ago, but never once fired a shotgun. Although I much prefer target shooting, getting a Sec1 sounds a pain, and my nearest range is hours away.
Compare that to the easy of getting a shotty cert, and the fact there's a clay club 5 minutes down the road.
Can you just turn up whenever you want, hire/use a lane, pay for your clays and spend the day there just blasting at clays? Or do you need someone operating the machine, etc? How relaxed is it, and what are the general costings for clays and cartridges?
I've done target shooting many years ago, but never once fired a shotgun. Although I much prefer target shooting, getting a Sec1 sounds a pain, and my nearest range is hours away.
Compare that to the easy of getting a shotty cert, and the fact there's a clay club 5 minutes down the road.
Can you just turn up whenever you want, hire/use a lane, pay for your clays and spend the day there just blasting at clays? Or do you need someone operating the machine, etc? How relaxed is it, and what are the general costings for clays and cartridges?
un1corn said:
Question for the clay shooters: Can you go on your own?
I've done target shooting many years ago, but never once fired a shotgun. Although I much prefer target shooting, getting a Sec1 sounds a pain, and my nearest range is hours away.
Compare that to the easy of getting a shotty cert, and the fact there's a clay club 5 minutes down the road.
Can you just turn up whenever you want, hire/use a lane, pay for your clays and spend the day there just blasting at clays? Or do you need someone operating the machine, etc? How relaxed is it, and what are the general costings for clays and cartridges?
Hi un1corn, I can answer a few of your questions:I've done target shooting many years ago, but never once fired a shotgun. Although I much prefer target shooting, getting a Sec1 sounds a pain, and my nearest range is hours away.
Compare that to the easy of getting a shotty cert, and the fact there's a clay club 5 minutes down the road.
Can you just turn up whenever you want, hire/use a lane, pay for your clays and spend the day there just blasting at clays? Or do you need someone operating the machine, etc? How relaxed is it, and what are the general costings for clays and cartridges?
1) yes, you can go on your own. Some ranges have 'claymate' which has a delay on the clay release button. Means you can call the bird and then have time to ready yourself. Depends where you are in the country. I know of 3 places near-ish to me (I'm in Surrey)
2) some places have set shoot days/times, other places are open for practise. Just google away and you should find out.
3) If I remember correctly, claymate is about 30p a clay dahn sarf. Shells are about 17p-20p each? Not a cheap hobby but lots of fun.
4) S1 is worth the kerfuffle.
RedLeicester said:
Rimfire boys - Ruger 10/22, Rem 527 or a boltie Cz452 / Anschutz 417? For vermin not punching paper. Would be the general use gun, backed up by CZ/Sako/Anschutz 17HMR
I'd go for the CZ or Annie out of those, far nicer rifles (though what I actually did was save a lot of money and buy a Savage Mk2 instead).If you want a semi the Marlins are generally considered the pick of the bunch - factory trigger is almost as horrible as a 10/22 but at least they're accurate.
10/22s are good if you like to play around swapping over different parts to modify/personalise it, as there are heaps of bits available. The downside of that is you end up spending twice what the rifle was worth just to make it shoot as well as others do from the factory.
GravelBen said:
10/22s are good if you like to play around swapping over different parts to modify/personalise it, as there are heaps of bits available. The downside of that is you end up spending twice what the rifle was worth just to make it shoot as well as others do from the factory.
Normal 10/22's,yes you are right, but 10/22 Target models are sorted out of the box, better trigger, nice stock and heavy barrel, which results in tight groups.
GravelBen said:
I'd go for the CZ or Annie out of those, far nicer rifles (though what I actually did was save a lot of money and buy a Savage Mk2 instead).
If you want a semi the Marlins are generally considered the pick of the bunch - factory trigger is almost as horrible as a 10/22 but at least they're accurate.
10/22s are good if you like to play around swapping over different parts to modify/personalise it, as there are heaps of bits available. The downside of that is you end up spending twice what the rifle was worth just to make it shoot as well as others do from the factory.
Yeah I'm not really in to endless customisation, at least I don't expect to. I'd rather have a decent barrel and maybe tweak the trigger or something, but otherwise live it pretty much stock - again, this will be working gun, not some range queen. With that in mind, that was the inclination to go with a semi with the .17hmr being bolt for longer ranges, but the semi giving the option of the second shot at closer ranges.If you want a semi the Marlins are generally considered the pick of the bunch - factory trigger is almost as horrible as a 10/22 but at least they're accurate.
10/22s are good if you like to play around swapping over different parts to modify/personalise it, as there are heaps of bits available. The downside of that is you end up spending twice what the rifle was worth just to make it shoot as well as others do from the factory.
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