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Hi all, thought I would ask the PH collective for some advice on a rather old shotgun I have inherited.
The only fly in the ointment is that the gun is in Australia and I am in London.
Anyone know anything about importing / exporting from Oz? Or for that matter about whether or not it would fall under section 58 rather than section 1?
Its an old hammer action made in around 1860-75, judging by a bit of googling, by R.Adams of London. They apparently went on to produce rather a lot of revolvers for the British Army, but not all that many shotguns.
Anyone know anything about them?
I'm not planning on shooting it as its a wee bit old, but the barrel marks seem to suggest its a 13 bore, which I had never heard of before?
Cheers!
The only fly in the ointment is that the gun is in Australia and I am in London.
Anyone know anything about importing / exporting from Oz? Or for that matter about whether or not it would fall under section 58 rather than section 1?
Its an old hammer action made in around 1860-75, judging by a bit of googling, by R.Adams of London. They apparently went on to produce rather a lot of revolvers for the British Army, but not all that many shotguns.
Anyone know anything about them?
I'm not planning on shooting it as its a wee bit old, but the barrel marks seem to suggest its a 13 bore, which I had never heard of before?
Cheers!
WreckedGecko said:
Hi all, thought I would ask the PH collective for some advice on a rather old shotgun I have inherited.
The only fly in the ointment is that the gun is in Australia and I am in London.
Anyone know anything about importing / exporting from Oz? Or for that matter about whether or not it would fall under section 58 rather than section 1?
Its an old hammer action made in around 1860-75, judging by a bit of googling, by R.Adams of London. They apparently went on to produce rather a lot of revolvers for the British Army, but not all that many shotguns.
Anyone know anything about them?
I'm not planning on shooting it as its a wee bit old, but the barrel marks seem to suggest its a 13 bore, which I had never heard of before?
Cheers!
Leave it all to am import agent (that specialises in firearms/shotguns). It wont be cheap, so see what it is worth first.The only fly in the ointment is that the gun is in Australia and I am in London.
Anyone know anything about importing / exporting from Oz? Or for that matter about whether or not it would fall under section 58 rather than section 1?
Its an old hammer action made in around 1860-75, judging by a bit of googling, by R.Adams of London. They apparently went on to produce rather a lot of revolvers for the British Army, but not all that many shotguns.
Anyone know anything about them?
I'm not planning on shooting it as its a wee bit old, but the barrel marks seem to suggest its a 13 bore, which I had never heard of before?
Cheers!
I bought an Umarex Smith & Wesson M&P45 replica the other day.
Co2, 8 round rotary, 12oz gas, .177 pellet via rifled steel barrel, single or double action, decent sights etc.
Great fun but makes me realise how much I miss what I had to give up in 1997
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Co2, 8 round rotary, 12oz gas, .177 pellet via rifled steel barrel, single or double action, decent sights etc.
Great fun but makes me realise how much I miss what I had to give up in 1997
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Question for johnbaz, I have an fx cyclone which cosmetically is in vgc, but the cylinder leaks, and a surface bottle which again is in vgc but needs a 5 year pressure check. Is there any market for selling something like this privately, or is it just easier to sell to a dealer and take a hit on the price?
Not sure this is quite right. I looked at a pair of Hollands recently. They were a few years old but were selling for substantially less than new. That said, I think they had fallen about as far as they were going to fall (Ex the dealer margin).
With prices of new guns rising at c. 5pct pa, that will underpin the price over time, for sure.
Very old guns (I looked at a pair of 1911 Bosses) are not really useable with modern loads/cartridges so seem to trade at a substantial discount. They have to find a home with a collector.
Hand made English guns are quite fragile. Machine made Italian or Spanish guns can be fixed anywhere.
All of that said, I think classic English guns could be the next "Classic car bubble". Billionaires have nowhere to put their money that hasn't gone up already a lot. English guns tick a lot of boxes: rare, beautiful, expensive, exclusive, elitist, limited future supply, ultimate luxury accessory, branding, snob value and haven't really moved in price.
With prices of new guns rising at c. 5pct pa, that will underpin the price over time, for sure.
Very old guns (I looked at a pair of 1911 Bosses) are not really useable with modern loads/cartridges so seem to trade at a substantial discount. They have to find a home with a collector.
Hand made English guns are quite fragile. Machine made Italian or Spanish guns can be fixed anywhere.
All of that said, I think classic English guns could be the next "Classic car bubble". Billionaires have nowhere to put their money that hasn't gone up already a lot. English guns tick a lot of boxes: rare, beautiful, expensive, exclusive, elitist, limited future supply, ultimate luxury accessory, branding, snob value and haven't really moved in price.
I suspect they're not ostentatious enough and can't easily be displayed.Turn7 said:
If
a picture paints a thousand words...Here's a list of NRA affiliated clubs http://www.nra.org.uk/common/asp/links/links.asp?s...
But the easisest way is to go to your nearest gun dealer http://www.gundealer.net/southeast/hertfordshire.h... and ask them where there's a decent target shooting club.
Turn7 said:
If I wanted to take up target rifle shooting, at say, Bisley - where would I start chaps ?
Bisley is close ish (45mins) and I have a Shotgun ticket.
Want to shoot more, and ideally, cheaper than clays are now.
Please don't be deterred by the NRA's website. Try contacting the NRA at Bisley (for fullbore rifle shooting) and ask about any guest days or training courses they do or just come down and have a chat with them one day. Peter Cottrell (Head of shooting & competitions at the NRA) would be a good place to start as he is very enthusiastic, vastly experienced and knowledgeable and a really good bloke to boot.Bisley is close ish (45mins) and I have a Shotgun ticket.
Want to shoot more, and ideally, cheaper than clays are now.
.308 (used in Target Rifle, Match Rifle, F-Class etc.) and other calibres over .223 aren't going to be particularly cheap to run, but Civilian Service Rifle (mainly .223) can be cost effective and you might also want to consider 'Gallery Rifle' (.22 rifle, long barrel pistol, carbines) and even 'Target Shotgun' (shooting solid slug at paper targets).
This weekend there's a quite a lot of all of this going on at Bisley during the GR Nationals and you'd be most welcome to spectate and chat with the ROs and competitors on the ranges.
I've been having some fun with this recently.
A .22 Air Arms Carmargue I bought new in April 1986 with hard earned pocket money from babysitting & paper rounds.
I converted it from a Springer to a gas ram with a Theoben kit about 10 years ago. Shoots great, plenty of grunt & quiet with the Venom silencer.
Would love to get it re-blued as there's a patch on it after a long period of lay up.
U.S. of A next month so will be having a play at Battlefield Vegas
A .22 Air Arms Carmargue I bought new in April 1986 with hard earned pocket money from babysitting & paper rounds.
I converted it from a Springer to a gas ram with a Theoben kit about 10 years ago. Shoots great, plenty of grunt & quiet with the Venom silencer.
Would love to get it re-blued as there's a patch on it after a long period of lay up.
U.S. of A next month so will be having a play at Battlefield Vegas
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