The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters
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t. Quite satisfying making your own. Kept me busy for a few hours.
aeropilot said:
Pesty said:
The Moose said:
Pesty said:
fac grant sent today whats the betting 3 months?
At least 
Shocking really.
I'm really not looking forward to life outside the Met area at some point in the future.
My area is Cumbria and within 2 days of sending the application back the officer was on the phone to me wanting to come that same week, in fact I had to put him off a couple of days as I was too busy.
Following his visit it was around 10 days later that I received my SGC through the post.
Now, I don't expect it to be that quick, if the whole process had taken a month from start to finish I wouldn't have minded at all, but talk of 6 months is insane.
Those forces need to sort themselves out.
NinjaPower said:
I find these times of 6 weeks to 6 months pretty shocking.
My area is Cumbria and within 2 days of sending the application back the officer was on the phone to me wanting to come that same week, in fact I had to put him off a couple of days as I was too busy.
Following his visit it was around 10 days later that I received my SGC through the post.
Now, I don't expect it to be that quick, if the whole process had taken a month from start to finish I wouldn't have minded at all, but talk of 6 months is insane.
Those forces need to sort themselves out.
6 months is nothing.......rumour is it's now 14 months for Essex to turn around a FAC application!!My area is Cumbria and within 2 days of sending the application back the officer was on the phone to me wanting to come that same week, in fact I had to put him off a couple of days as I was too busy.
Following his visit it was around 10 days later that I received my SGC through the post.
Now, I don't expect it to be that quick, if the whole process had taken a month from start to finish I wouldn't have minded at all, but talk of 6 months is insane.
Those forces need to sort themselves out.
Dan_The_Man said:
aeropilot said:
Got the chance to run the first couple of hundred rounds through my new GSG Stg.44 today......
I really like that, the MP40 with the folding stock is tempting too.Stg.44 is the more accurate repro though, as .22 GSG MP40 has to have a slightly longer than original barrel length, but unless you put one next to a real one, it's not obvious.
Stg.44 is a heafty old beast though, as weighs same as original.....but does attract a lot of range attention, everyone wanted a go
Pesty said:
Dan_The_Man said:
I really like that, the MP40 with the folding stock is tempting too.
Shush I'd never heard of these things I'm spending enough as it is. I don't suppose they do a Stirling ?I had to stop myself putting in for a 7.92x57 slot because of the temptation of one of those fabulous straight pull FG42 reproductions from Germany......and they aren't cheap!!!
Which is kind of ironic given I've just blown my budget out of the window buying a mint matching numbers No.4T instead
Hi All
Hope this is correct place to post.
Occasional clay pigeon shooter here. I have few days in the Yorkshire Dales soon and would like to do a bit of shooting when there. Will be staying c15miles from Richmond and was wondering whether anyone could recommend a non member shooting ground with gun loan in the vicinity for a round of English sporting.
Thanks
G
Hope this is correct place to post.
Occasional clay pigeon shooter here. I have few days in the Yorkshire Dales soon and would like to do a bit of shooting when there. Will be staying c15miles from Richmond and was wondering whether anyone could recommend a non member shooting ground with gun loan in the vicinity for a round of English sporting.
Thanks
G
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As per my thread above, a gun will cost what a gun costs. Alternatively it'll cost as much as you're prepared to spend. You can buy a gun as soon as you like, but it'll remain at your RFD - you can "purchase" without a certificate, but you cannot "possess" so most RFDs will allow you to put down a full price deposit and will hold the gun until your cert arrives. Common sense however says don't go shopping before it does appear as you never know what will turn up on the shelves in the mean time. The only thing really to bear in mind is if you think you may in the future want to shoot game over wetlands then you'll need a gun that is proofed for steel/bismuth shot as lead is banned for that.Cabinet can be anything from £30 on ebay to £2000 for some fur lined mahogany monstrosity. You can install it yourself, depending on the mood of the police officer / FAO attending, it may or may not be inspected to ensure it's attached to an outside wall as it should be.
SGC (Shot Gun Certificate) will cost you £79.50 and how long it takes to be granted is down to your local police force - some are a matter of weeks, others will be months. Additionally your mental / physical health and the quality of your referees will have some bearing in terms of how quickly they can process your cert as and when they get around to doing so.
Other than that a cleaning kit will be £20 from ebay/amazon/RFD and all that's left is cartridges. Find out whether the club you intend on joining has a preference for plastic or fibre wad and then purchase accordingly. Like all things, the more you buy the cheaper they get, and within the realms of reason they don't "go off" so don't be frightened of buying far more than you think you'll need as you will save pennies while you're at it. That being said, until you've bought "your" gun, you don't know what size it will take and what brand it may prefer. Also until you have shot more, you don't know what weight and size you prefer. Once you have narrowed it down, buy by the slab (250) which is vastly cheaper than by the box (25). Cheaper still if you go for bin ends ordered over the internet, assuming they have what you like.
One sage bit of advice is to try and settle on one load for everything wherever possible. If you're only ever shooting clays this is ideal as your gun will always point and recoil in exactly the same way every time which is good for shot consistency. If you're you may end up shooting game, then a familiar heavy clay load will continue to be perfect, unless you need something heavier for specific purposes (or as above, steel/bismuth). On the other hand, simulated days on game or competition days on clays may be brutal on your shoulder, so you may want to consider an alternative for those occasions. There's a big difference between 50 shots on a sunday morning and 500 on a simulated day.
I use 21g/7s for sim days, 28/7 for every day clay and game and then 36/5s or 38/4s for heavy game.
Don't forget shotgun ammunition can be stored practically anywhere, though it is advised they are kept locked up whereas firearm ammunition has to be locked in a suitable cabinet at all times.
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Good news on the health and record, less useful on the familial front - referees may not be either current or former serving officers. Or family!Oh and given you're in Scotland, expect your cert to take more of the months to process than weeks.
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That and the gun. Light guns are quicker to point and nicer to lift time after time through a long session. However their lighter weight means they kick more when fired. Heavier guns far more stable to point and swing through, and will absorb much of the recoil of heavier loads, but at the same time they are less pointy because you have more mass to move from A to B.DELETED: Comment made by a member who's account has been deleted.
Again, it's useful if they do as they'll already exist in the system, but otherwise no, just someone who has known you for a minimum number of years. (5 I think). They're looking for people to say you're of good character and not a nutjob. Depending on force area and mood, they may or may not contact them. If you do have people with specific S/C then that may be an easy tick in the box, or it may raise more questions than it answers.... Personally I'd just go with old friends who still know you and can hand on heart say you're sensible if asked.DELETED: Comment made by a member who's account has been deleted.
Not just the load - different carts use different powders and all feel different in the shoulder. Some feel sharp and snappy, others smooth.I always preferered Gambore Blue Diamonds as they use a different casing to allow a smoother shot.
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