The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters

[V40Vinnie]

Tonsko said:

Lols. 28g to me *is* a lot of oomph. I shoot 21s. Purely clay though, rather than game, so that makes a difference. But still, made me chuckle.

yeah 28 for clay is pushing overkill especially if you do a lot in a day. When on clays i tend to use 24 or 21 depending on what the ground has cheapest

[Pesty]

Most people I've spoken with recommend 28 2 3/4


I'll try it and let you know.

[RedLeicester]

V40Vinnie said:

Tonsko said:

Lols. 28g to me *is* a lot of oomph. I shoot 21s. Purely clay though, rather than game, so that makes a difference. But still, made me chuckle.

yeah 28 for clay is pushing overkill especially if you do a lot in a day. When on clays i tend to use 24 or 21 depending on what the ground has cheapest

Blimey, I use the same loads for clay and light game, so never anything under 28s in the O/U and S/S, stepping up to 36 for the semi. I stepped down to 24s for half of a 250 clay day but couldn't get on with it, so went back up to the usual.

[RedLeicester]

Tonsko said:

Semis have the advantage of recoil absorbption, so the heavier ones don't feel too bad. Putting 21s in a semi, if it wasn't for the bang, you'd wonder if the cartridge worked

I was just thinking that. Not sure mine would even cycle 21s to be fair.

[V40Vinnie]

RedLeicester said:

I was just thinking that. Not sure mine would even cycle 21s to be fair.

Some of the expensive semis will... sorry i should have said i use o/u for clay 28gram in a pump in clay is perfectly manageable if daft

[Pesty]

Tonsko said:

Semis have the advantage of recoil absorbption, so the heavier ones don't feel too bad. Putting 21s in a semi, if it wasn't for the bang, you'd wonder if the cartridge worked

Unfortunately some of us absorb recoil better than others

Nobody wants to shoot my hot .44s at my club don't even bother me go through 150 or so every Saturday must go on a diet lol

[RedLeicester]

V40Vinnie said:

RedLeicester said:

I was just thinking that. Not sure mine would even cycle 21s to be fair.

Some of the expensive semis will... sorry i should have said i use o/u for clay 28gram in a pump in clay is perfectly manageable if daft

It's perfectly manageable in an O/U too. Nice light load.

[vixen1700]

Tonsko said:

Semis have the advantage of recoil absorbption, so the heavier ones don't feel too bad.

My Franchi feels pretty brutal compared to my brother-in-law's Hatsan, it's inertia rather than gas driven.

Probably why I've yet to warm to it, although I may take it out this Sunday.

[Pesty]

[Turn7]

How fars that ?

[Pesty]

I was going to say I'm kneeling next to it but that wouldn't be funny.

600 meters

Edited by Pesty on Sunday 9th October 20:08

[aeropilot]

Pesty said:

600 meters

Last 600 shoot I did, I used my No.5.....and via only hand supported with no rests, I even managed a single V-bull

I think the old man was looking down on me that day psychically imparting some of his beloved No.5 handling skills on me for the day

[Pesty]

I can't hit v bull with a no4 mk1 at 50 I can't see the targets at 600 so well done I've discovered that unless I use a rest of some sort I can't shoot for st.


Scored 138/150 with 6 v bulls not bad I don't think for a first time with scope issues and my hand loads. Scope ran out of elevation at 300m so was aiming at mud at 500 and 600 and scored better at those than I did at 300

[creampuff]

Question for dual nationals or people who have lived overseas:

When you applied for a FAC did you have to provide any overseas criminal record check?

[HOGEPH]

Re what cartridges, I use the cheapest that will go bang and cycle the action!

[aeropilot]

Pesty said:

I can't hit v bull with a no4 mk1 at 50 I can't see the targets at 600 so well done I've discovered that unless I use a rest of some sort I can't shoot for st.

The No.5 having a shorter barrel length and having a floating barrel means that using a rest isn't that easy. I find it easier to shoot it as it was intended to be shot by a soldier

It's not a target rifle either, but, mine does seem to be remarkably accurate considering their reputation, and I'm chuffed to bits I've got what appears to be a goodun despite the damage it can do to your shoulder

But, yes, the condition of the old Mk1 eyeball as one ages is certainly getting an issue, and that 600 shoot back in the summer was probably the last time I'll bother to use the No.5 at such a range, now I have the 4T to play with as well
Will just use the No.5 for the 100 on short siberia now when we do that.

[Saddle bum]

aeropilot said:

Pesty said:

I can't hit v bull with a no4 mk1 at 50 I can't see the targets at 600 so well done I've discovered that unless I use a rest of some sort I can't shoot for st.

The No.5 having a shorter barrel length and having a floating barrel means that using a rest isn't that easy. I find it easier to shoot it as it was intended to be shot by a soldier

It's not a target rifle either, but, mine does seem to be remarkably accurate considering their reputation, and I'm chuffed to bits I've got what appears to be a goodun despite the damage it can do to your shoulder

But, yes, the condition of the old Mk1 eyeball as one ages is certainly getting an issue, and that 600 shoot back in the summer was probably the last time I'll bother to use the No.5 at such a range, now I have the 4T to play with as well
Will just use the No.5 for the 100 on short siberia now when we do that.

I have used Kalashnikov bullets in my No5. They are 123gn and can be used with a lot less powder, thus reducing recoil. They work very well being .0005inch down on a proper .303 bullet. [I won't quote the powder load - Health and Safety].

[aeropilot]

Saddle bum said:

aeropilot said:

Pesty said:

I can't hit v bull with a no4 mk1 at 50 I can't see the targets at 600 so well done I've discovered that unless I use a rest of some sort I can't shoot for st.

The No.5 having a shorter barrel length and having a floating barrel means that using a rest isn't that easy. I find it easier to shoot it as it was intended to be shot by a soldier

It's not a target rifle either, but, mine does seem to be remarkably accurate considering their reputation, and I'm chuffed to bits I've got what appears to be a goodun despite the damage it can do to your shoulder

But, yes, the condition of the old Mk1 eyeball as one ages is certainly getting an issue, and that 600 shoot back in the summer was probably the last time I'll bother to use the No.5 at such a range, now I have the 4T to play with as well
Will just use the No.5 for the 100 on short siberia now when we do that.

I have used Kalashnikov bullets in my No5. They are 123gn and can be used with a lot less powder, thus reducing recoil. They work very well being .0005inch down on a proper .303 bullet. [I won't quote the powder load - Health and Safety].

Hand loading isn't an option for me at the moment, probably not until I retire and move.

[smack]

creampuff said:

Question for dual nationals or people who have lived overseas:

When you applied for a FAC did you have to provide any overseas criminal record check?

No.... I wasn't asked, and it wasn't raised.

I did ask for my firearms license history from my overseas police force (as I had been shooting/licensed since I was 14), which I supplied to my FEO, and on the back of that he was happy, and approved everything I wanted on my ticket when at the time they could be funny about larger calibre rifles and number of slots.

[Womble6]

Treated myself to a couple of new toys.

A Tikka T3X Lite with a Nightforce 3-12x56 to replace my ageing LSA-55.



My new dedicated varmint gun. Howa 1500 with a Adaptive technologies floorplate/magazine conversion and a GRS adjustable stock topped off with a Photon XT



They join my trusty fully moderated St Etienne .22LR



Time for some zeroing in!