The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters

The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters

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z4chris99

11,302 posts

180 months

Saturday 5th January 2013
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I can get a pretty good feel for a gun from dry mounting a few times.

When I got my AYA (from oakhampton guns, great selection of cheap guns) I got out 10 SxS's I liked and found one that fitted.

Sterls

172 posts

220 months

Saturday 5th January 2013
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Well off down Kibworth tomorrow to throw some lead about and see what happens! Will have a look in the shop and see what he's got in.

Jem0911

4,415 posts

202 months

Saturday 5th January 2013
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Sterls said:
Well off down Kibworth tomorrow to throw some lead about and see what happens! Will have a look in the shop and see what he's got in.
Shout when you're next about I'm ten mins from Kibby.

z4chris99

11,302 posts

180 months

Saturday 5th January 2013
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pretty bored of revision so....

was trying to get my hatsan escort cycling smoother so did a big clean of the piston etc and then testing different oil levels cycling through snapcaps..

all going well until one of the fkers gets stuck in the magazine..

cue a complete strip down and then trying to find something long enough to push the fker out from the other end.

at least my gun is nice and clean now!



skene

2,298 posts

173 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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Lefty said:
Anyone on this thread in NE Scotland?
I'm new to the thread, but yes I'm in NE Scotland. Still need to get a shotgun certificate and that sorted out though. My dad has a clutch of guns so if I were to get my own certificate and gun, would I be allowed to keep it in my dads cabinet?

z4chris99

11,302 posts

180 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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skene said:
I'm new to the thread, but yes I'm in NE Scotland. Still need to get a shotgun certificate and that sorted out though. My dad has a clutch of guns so if I were to get my own certificate and gun, would I be allowed to keep it in my dads cabinet?
if you both have certs then i believe you can share a safe yes..

theironduke

6,995 posts

189 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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I had a play with my new toy this morning (a SLE Cogswell and Harrison I bought myself for Xmas) There really is something special about using a "proper" old gun smile Now to decide if I want it to be a "keeper" and whether to throw some cash at it...

Agrispeed

988 posts

160 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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z4chris99 said:
skene said:
I'm new to the thread, but yes I'm in NE Scotland. Still need to get a shotgun certificate and that sorted out though. My dad has a clutch of guns so if I were to get my own certificate and gun, would I be allowed to keep it in my dads cabinet?
if you both have certs then i believe you can share a safe yes..
I share a safe, however, If you only have shotgun license and the other person has a FAC the FAC guns have to be secured - most easily with a tether, anchored to the wall through a safe. they come in packs of 2 and cost around £10.

you cannot have access to the FAC ammo, and cannot know where the keys to the safe are untill you get a Shotgun certificate - just a warning for when the firearms officer comes around. smile

smack

9,729 posts

192 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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Agrispeed said:
I share a safe, however, If you only have shotgun license and the other person has a FAC the FAC guns have to be secured - most easily with a tether, anchored to the wall through a safe. they come in packs of 2 and cost around £10.

you cannot have access to the FAC ammo, and cannot know where the keys to the safe are untill you get a Shotgun certificate - just a warning for when the firearms officer comes around. smile
That depends on your force. When I discussed 2 people both with FAC's sharing FAC guns with my forces Firearms Licensing dept, they said our tickets had to mirror each other. If a gun was on one ticket, but not the other, it had to be in a separate safe which only the owner had access to.

In the end, they couldn't be bothered with the admin of mirroring guns on two FAC's, so I have a condition on my FAC which states "able to use and possess firearms held under Firearm Certificate number xxx." Makes my life easy!

Most forces would say the either the shotguns are in a separate safe you can access, or as there in FAC firearms in the safe you have no access. Ask them and you will tell you what they will approve.

skene

2,298 posts

173 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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My dad has two cabinets, one for shotguns and one for firearms so we should be okay!

What are the limitations on a cabinet? Do they have to be hidden from view, I.e in a cupboard? I do know they have to be anchored to the wall and floor IIRC

z4chris99

11,302 posts

180 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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skene said:
My dad has two cabinets, one for shotguns and one for firearms so we should be okay!

What are the limitations on a cabinet? Do they have to be hidden from view, I.e in a cupboard? I do know they have to be anchored to the wall and floor IIRC
No cupboard needed, I was told you can't be able to see it from a window
Get one that conforms to the police standards and should be ok.

My copper just yanked on the safe and it didn't move he didn't check the bolts

skene

2,298 posts

173 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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Cheers lads! I've been shooting clays for about 6 years now and we have our own electric trap. About time I got my own gun though! smile

z4chris99

11,302 posts

180 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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skene said:
Cheers lads! I've been shooting clays for about 6 years now and we have our own electric trap. About time I got my own gun though! smile
Thanks for volunteering to hold the PH clay day at your house

skene

2,298 posts

173 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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hehe not sure our landlords would be too happy with that in all fairness frown

Lefty

16,162 posts

203 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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skene said:
Lefty said:
Anyone on this thread in NE Scotland?
I'm new to the thread, but yes I'm in NE Scotland. Still need to get a shotgun certificate and that sorted out though. My dad has a clutch of guns so if I were to get my own certificate and gun, would I be allowed to keep it in my dads cabinet?
Prompted by this thread I started a new one in the Scotland forum about a shoot near Aberdeen. The more the merrier!

I think you might struggle with regard to sharing a safe, the guns need to be registered to one person and nobody else should have access. Best bet is to call your local FEO and ask, they're very helpful. Mine is Ian Duncan, based in Inverurie but travels all over the shire.

Cheers

Agrispeed

988 posts

160 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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z4chris99 said:
skene said:
My dad has two cabinets, one for shotguns and one for firearms so we should be okay!

What are the limitations on a cabinet? Do they have to be hidden from view, I.e in a cupboard? I do know they have to be anchored to the wall and floor IIRC
No cupboard needed, I was told you can't be able to see it from a window
Get one that conforms to the police standards and should be ok.

My copper just yanked on the safe and it didn't move he didn't check the bolts
IIRC Devon & Cornwall said it shouldn't be in the main pathway through the house, and shouldn't be obvious to anyone who doesn't know where it is.

Needs to be anchored to a load-bearing wall (I.e. not plasterboard) and only the wall.

they like them to be relatively accessible to reduce the risk of guns being left out and about.

after a certain amount of guns, depending on the force, you may need an alarm, which is a pain...

Burrow01

1,813 posts

193 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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Went out for our mates Clay Shoot in a local field yesterday, and my Miroku 12G O/U kept jamming the cartridges in the ejectors after each shot - its done this all 3 times I've used it.

Seems to vary depending on the make of cartridge used, but its a real pain

Taking it back to the dealer that I bought it from, but wondered if any of the PH Gun collective had any experience with this and any pointers as to the problem

tvradict

3,829 posts

275 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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Which model of Miroku?

Are the ejectors moving and following their pattern as they should, try using snap caps to find out. Or are the ejectors holding onto the shell?

Have you broken the gun, oiled or greased all the moving parts?

Jem0911

4,415 posts

202 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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Burrow01 said:
Went out for our mates Clay Shoot in a local field yesterday, and my Miroku 12G O/U kept jamming the cartridges in the ejectors after each shot - its done this all 3 times I've used it.

Seems to vary depending on the make of cartridge used, but its a real pain

Taking it back to the dealer that I bought it from, but wondered if any of the PH Gun collective had any experience with this and any pointers as to the problem
For sure take it back.
I have an older model (6000)
I've put over twenty five thousand shells through mine without a hitch.

Burrow01

1,813 posts

193 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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tvradict said:
Which model of Miroku?

Are the ejectors moving and following their pattern as they should, try using snap caps to find out. Or are the ejectors holding onto the shell?

Have you broken the gun, oiled or greased all the moving parts?
Its a Miroku MK10, the ejectors are not moving back, and the rim of the cartridge seems to jam under the ejector

I've not done anything to it maintainance wise, as it looked very clean and greased when I bought it. I do break it for storage