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ferrisbueller

29,363 posts

228 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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Surely Tony Martin would be the pick of the current crop?

neilr

1,515 posts

264 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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Even if Cancellara blows away Voigt's time, its nice to see some genuine excitement about the hour record. (assuming either of them beat the current record of course).

Its a nice way for Jens Voigt to retire though.

As has been said earlier, Tony Martin doing this would be pretty interesting.


Rocksteadyeddie

7,971 posts

228 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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johnxjsc1985 said:
Rocksteadyeddie said:
My mistake. I thought Sosenka had the absolute record, when he in fact holds the athletes hour whilst smacked off his tits. I agree that certainly Obree, and almost certainly Boardman were clean.
If you followed Boardman's career he openly admitted that he could stay with most of the TDF elite in the high mountains for a day but his recovery just didn't allow him to do the same thing two or three days in a row. Evidence if it where needed that he was clean in an era that was not.
If we're taking riders words for things then, yes, that would be "evidence". Such a shame about all those riders who claimed to be clean when they were anything but. I don't know any more than you do if Boardman was clean or not, but my gut feel suggests he was. Hence why I used the words "almost certainly".

Rocksteadyeddie

7,971 posts

228 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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neilr said:
Even if Cancellara blows away Voigt's time, its nice to see some genuine excitement about the hour record. (assuming either of them beat the current record of course).

Its a nice way for Jens Voigt to retire though.

As has been said earlier, Tony Martin doing this would be pretty interesting.
yes It tends to be a bookend for a career though so we may have to wait a few years for him to attempt it. It would be great if this ignited a whole new slew of attempts at the Hour.

Jonnny

29,401 posts

190 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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Jesus, Froomes arms and legs are so skinny he looks ill.

okgo

38,201 posts

199 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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Can't wait to hear the hater chat after that.

I reckon this spells trouble for Bert...two rock hard days to to on terrain that probably suits CF more than today.

Rocksteadyeddie

7,971 posts

228 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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That's the best ride of Chris Froomes career. Great stage. Fabulous win for Heysedal.

Dr Imran T

2,301 posts

200 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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Superb determination from froome that. That looked steep and tough.


johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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Rocksteadyeddie said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
Rocksteadyeddie said:
My mistake. I thought Sosenka had the absolute record, when he in fact holds the athletes hour whilst smacked off his tits. I agree that certainly Obree, and almost certainly Boardman were clean.
If you followed Boardman's career he openly admitted that he could stay with most of the TDF elite in the high mountains for a day but his recovery just didn't allow him to do the same thing two or three days in a row. Evidence if it where needed that he was clean in an era that was not.
If we're taking riders words for things then, yes, that would be "evidence". Such a shame about all those riders who claimed to be clean when they were anything but. I don't know any more than you do if Boardman was clean or not, but my gut feel suggests he was. Hence why I used the words "almost certainly".
I obviously do no more than you otherwise I would not have said it. The man was clean I would put my house on it having known him and his father who was also a good cyclist.
I don't mind people being sceptical but lets not tar decent people with being a liar and a cheat.

okgo

38,201 posts

199 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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Yes yes. We heard you the first 6 times. He said 'almost certainly clean' what more do you want?

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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okgo said:
Yes yes. We heard you the first 6 times. He said 'almost certainly clean' what more do you want?
Almost is not total is it. It's so easy to be dismissive and negative isn't it. If you want to dismiss someone's character with a casual remark then don't be surprised if someone takes exception when they know what they are talking about. The rest of the peleton you can have a pop at I have no idea who was drugged up at that time.

okgo

38,201 posts

199 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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Thanks for your version of things. But we don't know you from Adam. So don't r surprised if people don't take your word as gospel.

And at no point did he say anything negative about CB. Just that nobody knows anything for sure. Apart from them. But yes I would imagine he was squeaky clean.

Rocksteadyeddie

7,971 posts

228 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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johnxjsc1985 said:
okgo said:
Yes yes. We heard you the first 6 times. He said 'almost certainly clean' what more do you want?
Almost is not total is it. It's so easy to be dismissive and negative isn't it. If you want to dismiss someone's character with a casual remark then don't be surprised if someone takes exception when they know what they are talking about. The rest of the peleton you can have a pop at I have no idea who was drugged up at that time.
Yes, Sir. Certainly Sir. Sorry for having an opinion Sir.

I'm sure Chris Boardman is a lovely fella, and if my hand was forced I'd probably put my house on him being clean too. Obviously I don't have the benefit of having spent 24 hours a day, 7 days a week with him as you evidently have to be absolutely certain he's clean. I stick to my original assertion. To suggest you know better is frankly horsest. You can't possibly.

ETA You are familiar with how the internet works aren't you?

Edited by Rocksteadyeddie on Saturday 6th September 18:23

Gizmoish

18,150 posts

210 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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FWIW I also think he was clean, but Sheryl Crow pronounced Armstrong was clean... You can't know.

Grandfondo

12,241 posts

207 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Real gutsy ride by Froome yesterday, not pretty but dug very deep!
Contador might just have a big enough time gap to keep CF at bay.

Dr Imran T

2,301 posts

200 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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^ perhaps. It seems contador doesn't underestimate froome. He seems him as a big threat.

We'll have a good idea how good froome is and whether contador can hold on by the end of tomorrow's stage.

Grandfondo

12,241 posts

207 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Dr Imran T said:
^ perhaps. It seems contador doesn't underestimate froome. He seems him as a big threat.

We'll have a good idea how good froome is and whether contador can hold on by the end of tomorrow's stage.
Today could be decisive and Contador has played the mind games well from the start ,but to be honest I thought Froome was dead and buried after the TT.
Contador will probably just shadow Froome now till the finish.

Rocksteadyeddie

7,971 posts

228 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Grandfondo said:
Real gutsy ride by Froome yesterday, not pretty but dug very deep!
Contador might just have a big enough time gap to keep CF at bay.
He's only got a minute and a bit and it's an awful long way to go. My gut feel is that Contador has the edge, but that's certainly more debatable than it was this time yesterday.

Grandfondo

12,241 posts

207 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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Rocksteadyeddie said:
Grandfondo said:
Real gutsy ride by Froome yesterday, not pretty but dug very deep!
Contador might just have a big enough time gap to keep CF at bay.
He's only got a minute and a bit and it's an awful long way to go. My gut feel is that Contador has the edge, but that's certainly more debatable than it was this time yesterday.
Debate looks over!

Sway

26,346 posts

195 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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I dunno.

Seemed very odd the three not quite amigos seemed more worried by Froome than anything else.

Not sure I've seen a stage where the leader was spending more time worrying about the guy in third 20s behind him than the bloke in second sucking his wheel.

Hopefully fireworks today!