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Don1 said:
Take it to extremes - let them do the TDF in a single go. Sure they can stop, sleep, but the clock keeps ticking... 
I like this plan, like a 3000km time trial... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/29515182
"never failed a drugs test...." LOLZ!
Doping and professional cycling unfortunately go hand in hand, so it will always be difficult for the subject not to crop up, however just look at the Tour of Spain thread that we had going in September, and you will see that there was a determined effort by the usual suspects, to completely de-rail the discussion on the actual racing and turn it around into total innuendo and speculation. Completely ruining any enjoyment for anyone who just wanted to discuss the racing.
mcelliott said:
Doping and professional cycling unfortunately go hand in hand, so it will always be difficult for the subject not to crop up, however just look at the Tour of Spain thread that we had going in September, and you will see that there was a determined effort by the usual suspects, to completely de-rail the discussion on the actual racing and turn it around into total innuendo and speculation. Completely ruining any enjoyment for anyone who just wanted to discuss the racing.
exactly if you think the sport is so riddled with drug cheats why bother following it. At least we acknowledge as a sport that there is a problem other sports still think otherwise.So Oleg Tinkov has offered €1,000,000 to Contador, Nibbles, Froome and Quintana if they ride all 3 GTs next year.. They'd split it between them whoever rides them. So potentially €250,000 each.
Nice idea, his logic is in most other sports top teams take on other top teams throughout the year.. Not just when they choose.
Nice idea, his logic is in most other sports top teams take on other top teams throughout the year.. Not just when they choose.
Well you would be mad to sign for Astana at the moment.... http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/as... though I still believe they were working without the teams knowledge it does give an insight into the sort of behaviours and mindset of the team
Jonnny said:
Oleg Tinkov
I know he's got his dissenters but he's certainly a character. Anyway I've been reliably informed by someone who worked on the tour this year with one of the leading teams, that Oleg Tinkov rode every kilometre of the TDF route the day before each stage, with fully armed outriders and following team car!mcelliott said:
Doping and professional cycling unfortunately go hand in hand, so it will always be difficult for the subject not to crop up, however just look at the Tour of Spain thread that we had going in September, and you will see that there was a determined effort by the usual suspects, to completely de-rail the discussion on the actual racing and turn it around into total innuendo and speculation. Completely ruining any enjoyment for anyone who just wanted to discuss the racing.
Very true - happens all time and totally overshadows the great racing. Tinkov is getting flack for his comments about riders doing all three GTs but I think its only what we want to see, I hate the way we very rarely get to see the best five or six riders go at each other over more than one race a season. What the public want is Quintana vs Contador vs Froome vs Nibbles vs Pinot vs VdB etc in every GT... hell if I had £1m to throw away I'd offer the same prize.
the UCI need to incentivise participation in GTs or raise the profile of the rankings format, MTB has the world cup which is accumulated points throughout the season and the world championships which is a one off event, Road needs the same thing but to increase the profile of the season long competition. I like the one day format of the worlds but it does seem that the guy who finishes the season with the hihgest UCI ranking gets lost in the noise.
the UCI need to incentivise participation in GTs or raise the profile of the rankings format, MTB has the world cup which is accumulated points throughout the season and the world championships which is a one off event, Road needs the same thing but to increase the profile of the season long competition. I like the one day format of the worlds but it does seem that the guy who finishes the season with the hihgest UCI ranking gets lost in the noise.
Vocal Minority said:
Blimey. I thought he would achieved more than he has. At one point he seemed to be the next great thing.Bad luck really.
johnxjsc1985 said:
mcelliott said:
Doping and professional cycling unfortunately go hand in hand, so it will always be difficult for the subject not to crop up, however just look at the Tour of Spain thread that we had going in September, and you will see that there was a determined effort by the usual suspects, to completely de-rail the discussion on the actual racing and turn it around into total innuendo and speculation. Completely ruining any enjoyment for anyone who just wanted to discuss the racing.
exactly if you think the sport is so riddled with drug cheats why bother following it. At least we acknowledge as a sport that there is a problem other sports still think otherwise.Professional sport and all the riches it brings will make some athletes cheat and that will probably never change but I hate to see cheats /dopers represent their countries in the Olympics/Commonwealth games which then excludes good young riders the chance to shine in their national colours.
Grandfondo said:
Professional sport and all the riches it brings will make some athletes cheat and that will probably never change but I hate to see cheats /dopers represent their countries in the Olympics/Commonwealth games which then excludes good young riders the chance to shine in their national colours.
Have you listened to the R5 special from Tuesday night? it was fascinating, I would recommend you listen to it. pablo said:
Grandfondo said:
Professional sport and all the riches it brings will make some athletes cheat and that will probably never change but I hate to see cheats /dopers represent their countries in the Olympics/Commonwealth games which then excludes good young riders the chance to shine in their national colours.
Have you listened to the R5 special from Tuesday night? it was fascinating, I would recommend you listen to it. Fittster said:
Why can't you follow a sport if you believe the competitors are using drugs? I have no problem watching athletes regardless of the physical chemistry.
I think on some level We agree. the point I was making is if you can only comment about drug taking and nothing else then why bother.Any way I will be looking forward Paris Tours and watching the sprinters do their thing.
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