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johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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pablo said:
Shame that Froome has pulled out of Tirreno too, it would have been good to see Froome vs Quinatana vs Nibbles vs Contador at least once....

Boonens fall was really bad luck especially at this stage of the season and I was surprised to see Wiggo lose his rag whilst at the head of the peloton bringing back Voeckler and DelapLace
I may be wrong but I think Orica have a reputation for doing ZERO work but always turning up in the last 5k.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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Katusha looking after Kristoff, Orica looking after Haussler and Cofidis looking after Bouhanni, none of whom did much to chase down the pair up ahead but profitted from the hard work Sky, Astana and Lotto put it... but thats racing.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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pablo said:
Katusha looking after Kristoff, Orica looking after Haussler and Cofidis looking after Bouhanni, none of whom did much to chase down the pair up ahead but profitted from the hard work Sky, Astana and Lotto put it... but thats racing.
Cav has mentioned how little work Orica do in the peleton in every race but there are no laws about how the burden of chasing down a break is divided up.

Sway

26,279 posts

194 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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Of course its racing, however, much like attacking after an attack, often counter productive...

There are always those with long memories in the peloton. Favours owed/asked, riders with influence outside their own team.

Many have found that saving a little bit of assistance can lead to killer efforts in an early stage of a three week race...

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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No, I like that though, lots of different strageies playing out in one stage with teams ahving to work for themselves where they see a potential reward. It seems to be a very continental approach that Sky havent quite adapted to?

Its pretty obvious though that If a guy in the break is in "virtual yellow", I'd expect the current yellow jersey team to do the pulling to claw back the time, also if a team like Etixx want to set up Cav for a sprint, I'd expect them to be at the front. The rest can just cash in on any effort at the end, look how well Coquard did yesterday and they were nowhere in the chase.

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 10th March 16:38

Matt_N

8,903 posts

202 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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Oh dear, another EPO bust:

"In a week in which professional cycling is again in the headlines over doping, it has been revealed that AG2R-La Mondiale rider Lloyd Mondory has tested positive for EPO. The news coincides with Lampre-Merida leaving the Movement for Credible Cycling (MPCC) after deciding to re-engage Diego Ulissi following his ban, in contravention of the voluntary organisation’s rules."

mcelliott

8,671 posts

181 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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But the sport is cleaner now...

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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mcelliott said:
But the sport is cleaner now...
I think the UCI should tell everyone that they are still playing catchup with the doping and cheats and riders will be found out but at this point we cannot say that every rider is clean.
the drip drip effect of finding the odd rider positve is like death by a thousand cuts.

ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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johnxjsc1985 said:
mcelliott said:
But the sport is cleaner now...
I think the UCI should tell everyone that they are still playing catchup with the doping and cheats and riders will be found out but at this point we cannot say that every rider is clean.
the drip drip effect of finding the odd rider positve is like death by a thousand cuts.
We'll never be able to say every rider is clean. The battle against doping cannot be won outright, but IMO is still a battle worth having.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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ewenm said:
We'll never be able to say every rider is clean. The battle against doping cannot be won outright, but IMO is still a battle worth having.
Entirely agree but maybe the UCI should show us how hard they are trying to catch up.
Somehow the world sees cycling as a dirty sport compared to Athletics or swimming for instance when I would imagine any athletic sport which has prize money attatched to it has a doping problem.

mcelliott

8,671 posts

181 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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Great racing in the P/N today, shaping up well for the final three days.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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mcelliott said:
Great racing in the P/N today, shaping up well for the final three days.
Not going to spoil it for anyone but its definitely worth watching the last climb was a killer.

Matt_N

8,903 posts

202 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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johnxjsc1985 said:
Not going to spoil it for anyone but its definitely worth watching the last climb was a killer.
Yeh very well worked.

Sprint finish at T-A got a bit messy.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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really enjoying the cycling this season.I thought today's stage was brilliant and how good is Thomas he is having a great season and nice to see Porte doing well

towser44

3,494 posts

115 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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Loved the Paris-Nice today. First stage I've had chance watch on TV this season (with the exception of the Palm Front finish stage in Dubai Tour a few weeks ago). Can't wait for the Classics and GTs now!

mcelliott

8,671 posts

181 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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I've been shouted down for this before and probably will be again, but, I spoke to a good friend who works for Sky 3 or 4 years ago and the long term plan for Geraint Thomas has always been with an eye on having a serious stab at one of the grand tours - maybe not this year, but certainly in the near future. He seems to be maturing nicely, and with a little bit of weight loss, I'm convinced he could get a top 5 overall in a grand tour.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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towser44 said:
Loved the Paris-Nice today. First stage I've had chance watch on TV this season (with the exception of the Palm Front finish stage in Dubai Tour a few weeks ago). Can't wait for the Classics and GTs now!
yes its warming up nicely

Alex Langheck

835 posts

129 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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johnxjsc1985 said:
Entirely agree but maybe the UCI should show us how hard they are trying to catch up.
Somehow the world sees cycling as a dirty sport compared to Athletics or swimming for instance when I would imagine any athletic sport which has prize money attatched to it has a doping problem.
As a cycling fan, people in work ask me why I follow a sport full of drug cheats. Easy, cycling takes doping seriously. You think football, rugby, tennis, etc are clean? Get real, they're even worse - but there are double standards at play. Why aren't investigative journalists sniffing around those sports?

As for Paris-Nice, my favourite race of the year , it's shaping up nicely. Thought todays stage was fantastic, a nice performance from Sky wirh Porte leading Thomas to a 1-2. And Kwiakowski regains the yellow jersey. Should be an interesting final 3 days.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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[quote=Alex Langheck]

Why aren't investigative journalists sniffing around those sports?
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what a great question and one that should have been asked many times over the last 50 years.
If anyone has doubt just look at the Olympic records for Women over the last 40 years and in particular since the break up of the soviet union or just ask Sharon Davies

Rocksteadyeddie

7,971 posts

227 months

Friday 13th March 2015
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That's arguably the best performance of Thomas' career. I've long though of him as a potential World class GT rider, and was beginning to give up hope that he would make the grade. Maybe I can hold out a little longer.