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johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Sunday 3rd July 2016
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what a hard finish I didn't take a breath for the last 500m it was epic

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 3rd July 2016
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Vipers said:
Am I going nuts. Sports Mail section in the Daily Mail says "Only two men have won three Tours de France in the post war period and today Chris Froome will begin his bid to become the third. The first was Louison Bobart and the other was Greg LeMond".

There have been a number of cyclists who have won three times.




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Nope, only two riders have won it three times, a few, Merckx, Hinault etc have won it more than three times which is where I assume the confusion arises

Add well as staying out of trouble, Froome will be looking for any bonus seconds he can get hence his high finishes. Was hoping Dan Martin would strike today but very pleased for Sagan.

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 3rd July 21:50

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Sunday 3rd July 2016
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pablo said:
Nope, only two riders have won it three times, a few, Merckx, Hinault etc have won it more than three times which is where I assume the confusion arises

Add well as staying out of trouble, Froome will be looking for any bonus seconds he can get hence his high finishes. Was hoping Dan Martin would strike today but very pleased for Sagan.

Edited by pablo on Sunday 3rd July 21:50
I thought sagan looked cooked with 150 to go but his second kick was super impressive

Vipers

32,890 posts

228 months

Sunday 3rd July 2016
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pablo said:
Vipers said:
Am I going nuts. Sports Mail section in the Daily Mail says "Only two men have won three Tours de France in the post war period and today Chris Froome will begin his bid to become the third. The first was Louison Bobart and the other was Greg LeMond".

There have been a number of cyclists who have won three times.




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Nope, only two riders have won it three times, a few, Merckx, Hinault etc have won it more than three times which is where I assume the confusion arises
You could be right, badly worded then, not to worry, cheers.




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Johnny

9,652 posts

284 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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Fantastic sprint again, perfect timing from Cav!

About as tight as you'd like though!

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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Wow just 3 to equal Eddy could he possibly do it? He seems like he has really got his mojo back.

Rocksteadyeddie

7,971 posts

227 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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More props for Cav. Great sprint today. Where TF is KIttel though? No where again today having come up short on Stage 1.


Trigbert

124 posts

130 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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johnxjsc1985 said:
Wow just 3 to equal Eddy could he possibly do it? He seems like he has really got his mojo back.
Interesting stat on ITV highlights, think they took time trial wins away from the total wins and it left Cav way out on his own. Can't recall exact numbers, nothing like a good stat fiddle!

Good job I recorded highlights tonight, stage was that slow my eurosport recording stopped miles from the end banghead

Vocal Minority

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8,582 posts

152 months

Tuesday 5th July 2016
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Is it not another 6 needed to equal Eddie Merckx? very unlikely this year I guess.

However, it's really good to see that he has really found some form again - The Etixx train never really fired properly for whatever reason, always nearly there, tweeks needed etc.

But having Bosan-Hagen, Eisel and Renshaw just keeping him safe, and him hopping around using a few more sprinters instincts seems to be doing him good - Kittel's form certainly seems to be off.

Matt_N

8,903 posts

202 months

Tuesday 5th July 2016
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Vocal Minority said:
Is it not another 6 needed to equal Eddie Merckx? very unlikely this year I guess.
Yes it is;

Merckx 34
Cav 28

If you just consider mass stage wins then;

Cav 28
André Darrigade and André Leducq 22
François Faber 19
Eddy Merckx 18

FlyingMeeces

9,932 posts

211 months

Tuesday 5th July 2016
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Vocal Minority said:
Is it not another 6 needed to equal Eddie Merckx? very unlikely this year I guess.

However, it's really good to see that he has really found some form again - The Etixx train never really fired properly for whatever reason, always nearly there, tweeks needed etc.

But having Bosan-Hagen, Eisel and Renshaw just keeping him safe, and him hopping around using a few more sprinters instincts seems to be doing him good - Kittel's form certainly seems to be off.
yes He won't do it this year, but I think all but certain within the next 2, barring catastrophes.

Seems to be doing him a world of good having the trusted squad around him, it's flippin' lovely to see.

Guess it's as much confidence as it is lead-out and skill for all sprinters, but that first leg of the tripod seems a particularly critical one for Cav.

Vocal Minority

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8,582 posts

152 months

Tuesday 5th July 2016
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Thats a bloody impressive stat Matt N

And I agree confidence is the bedrock on which the rest is all built. No use having the skills if you lack the belief to use them to their limit.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Tuesday 5th July 2016
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I can't think of another sport were you need to concentrate so much for 4 hours plus just to be in the right position amongst nearly 200 other competitors for the last 200m. I don't think he gets the recognition he deserves and I just hope he gets his Olympic gold medal.

Matt_N

8,903 posts

202 months

Tuesday 5th July 2016
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Boardman gave some good insight into Cav's 2 wins, he thought Dimension and Cav are much more comfortable in dealing with situations where the plan can't be executed perfectly this tour.

Whereas Lotto and Etixx seem very reliant on the plan being excuted to the last minute detail and if it doesn't happen it doesn't work out, Kittel for instance yesterday lost out big time.

To the guy who said a few pages back it would be a dull tour, pah! 3 great finishes so far.

Matt_N

8,903 posts

202 months

Tuesday 5th July 2016
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counterofbeans said:
Another green jersey for Sagan and hopefully no more stage wins for Cavendish (as I don't want him overtaking Hinault's 28).
whistle

Vocal Minority

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8,582 posts

152 months

Tuesday 5th July 2016
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johnxjsc1985 said:
I can't think of another sport were you need to concentrate so much for 4 hours plus just to be in the right position amongst nearly 200 other competitors for the last 200m. I don't think he gets the recognition he deserves and I just hope he gets his Olympic gold medal.
An Olympic Gold Medal and there will be nothing left as a sprinter that he can win.

Certainly on the list of Top 20 British Sportspeople ever. Probably Top 10.


He has:

Worn all three Grand Tour leaders Jerseys

Won all three Grand Tour Points Jerseys

World Road Race Champion

National Road Race Champion

Won a Monument

Track World Titles

Track National Titles

Edited by Vocal Minority on Tuesday 5th July 11:50

counterofbeans

1,061 posts

139 months

Tuesday 5th July 2016
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Matt_N said:
counterofbeans said:
Another green jersey for Sagan and hopefully no more stage wins for Cavendish (as I don't want him overtaking Hinault's 28).
whistle
I know. I'm gutted.

As long as he doesn't catch Merckx!

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Tuesday 5th July 2016
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he is already the record holder of stage wins where a sprint is contested and I hope he wins many more the form he has now perhaps is as a result of some track work getting his edge back but its just so good to see the little fella dwarfed by the German giants bursting through to win on the line.

matt-ITR

892 posts

189 months

Tuesday 5th July 2016
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I really hope Cav can do it and now that he seems to have his form and confidence back, I think he can.

It would be nice to see a clean rider hold the record for stage wins.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Tuesday 5th July 2016
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what a finish pick the winner out of that