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johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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mcelliott said:
No, a few days ago you said you only suspected Indurain when the whole world and his dog knows those wins weren't honest. But that's cool, that's a naivety that chimes very well with your unbridled support of Sky.
nearly half the peleton in those days were asthmatic they should have qualified for the para Olympics.

Trigbert

124 posts

130 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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Todays stage in that weather looked terrible. Almost like there was a gentlemen agreement over the last climb to keep what you've got, can't fault that tbh. Respect to all of them, Chapeau!

DeltonaS

3,707 posts

138 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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Trigbert said:
Todays stage in that weather looked terrible. Almost like there was a gentlemen agreement over the last climb to keep what you've got, can't fault that tbh. Respect to all of them, Chapeau!
Indeed chapeau, to Froome and his team first and foremost for winning the TdF, three weeks of pedaling, 3,529 km or 2,193 mi......

FlyingMeeces

9,932 posts

211 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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johnxjsc1985 said:
mcelliott said:
No, a few days ago you said you only suspected Indurain when the whole world and his dog knows those wins weren't honest. But that's cool, that's a naivety that chimes very well with your unbridled support of Sky.
nearly half the peleton in those days were asthmatic they should have qualified for the para Olympics.
… the Paralympics have a) nearly as much of a doping problem as the Olympics and b) a minimum level of physical impairment equivalent to missing most of a hand or a foot.

Waiting to see if the Russian ban applies to Paralympians too, it bloody ought to, it was all the same anti-doping officials and labs being fked with after all. I just don't understand why it's only athletics, they really ought to be at least as worried about cycling and such.

Hate to even think it never mind type it but the amount of "this is a superhuman effort" "most people couldn't possibly do this" etc coming from the commentators today about, primarily, Sagan, made me fret a bit. Oleg Tinkov seems unscrupulous enough for it.

On which note did you lot see ITV4's 'the world according to Oleg' thingies on the rest days? I'm astounded at the blatantness of the piss taking, UK broadcast media don't usually go that far, but it was completely hilarious. rofl

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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mcelliott said:
pablo said:
mcelliott said:
pablo said:
Dont walk away, Sway I think everyone knows you are right but they cant admit it. They like the romance of the Italians winning everything, that marks them out as old-school (pre-Wiggins) and this new world order doesnt sit well for some... I was reading cycling news forum the other day (dont ever go there!) and the best the Sky-haters had was "at lest he'll never win the Giro...." I mean thats the level you have to drag yourself down to before you can argue with these people....

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 22 July 14:47
Says the man who counts Miguel Indurain as one of his idols - haha.
I was 12, what's your excuse?
No, a few days ago you said you only suspected Indurain when the whole world and his dog knows those wins weren't honest. But that's cool, that's a naivety that chimes very well with your unbridled support of Sky.
I meant I was 12 when I was watching indurain win so knew no better.

As for the final comment I don't support any team or rider, you know that but you like to think I do because it fits with your agenda. You're a bully, have a think about what you post.

DeltonaS

3,707 posts

138 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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FlyingMeeces said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
mcelliott said:
No, a few days ago you said you only suspected Indurain when the whole world and his dog knows those wins weren't honest. But that's cool, that's a naivety that chimes very well with your unbridled support of Sky.
nearly half the peleton in those days were asthmatic they should have qualified for the para Olympics.
… the Paralympics have a) nearly as much of a doping problem as the Olympics and b) a minimum level of physical impairment equivalent to missing most of a hand or a foot.

Waiting to see if the Russian ban applies to Paralympians too, it bloody ought to, it was all the same anti-doping officials and labs being fked with after all. I just don't understand why it's only athletics, they really ought to be at least as worried about cycling and such.

Hate to even think it never mind type it but the amount of "this is a superhuman effort" "most people couldn't possibly do this" etc coming from the commentators today about, primarily, Sagan, made me fret a bit. Oleg Tinkov seems unscrupulous enough for it.

On which note did you lot see ITV4's 'the world according to Oleg' thingies on the rest days? I'm astounded at the blatantness of the piss taking, UK broadcast media don't usually go that far, but it was completely hilarious. rofl
"UK broadcast media don't usually go that far"

Usually ? Are you sure ? UK media ? the UK is far from the the least nationalistic country in Europe, most Brits probably even question whether the UK is in Europe at all. Regarding nationalism it's probably somewhere in between Turkye and Slovenia, right up there with France.

And I don't know Oleg's comments, and I do not care, but if you have any knowledge of the sport you'd know that a bit more respect to Sagan's performance in this TdF wouldn't go amiss.

Right up their with Froome, if not beyond that.

Edited by DeltonaS on Saturday 23 July 22:29

FlyingMeeces

9,932 posts

211 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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I actually can't tell whether you're intentionally missing the point to pick a fight, or just not getting what I'm saying.

Did you see the Oleg sections I mentioned? It was funny. Nationalism irrelevant.

"If you have any knowledge of the sport…" - not interested in dick measuring contest. Also not interested in being told who or what I ought to respect, to be quite honest. Sagan has indeed done some incredible things, he's stunningly dominant, has been for some years now, but I heard the phrase "out of this world" this afternoon, watching live, and I thought… actually, yeah, that's not inappropriate to wonder about. I'm not declaring what is or isn't happening, I am observing my own instinctive reaction, that's all.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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another year over almost and Kittel seems to be having problems and is off the back. Shame Cav couldn't make it today it would be a dead cert for him in his present form.

mcelliott

8,660 posts

181 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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pablo said:
I mean thats the level you have to drag yourself down to before you can argue with these people....

Edited by pablo on Friday 22 July 14:47
Or, alternatively let's do what you do - don't agree with someone's view? Accuse them of bullying. Pathetic.

tobinen

9,222 posts

145 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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I reckon if Sagan hadn't broke traction/gone sideways just before his lunge he could've won that last stage.

Congratulations to Froome/Sky. Great performance.

Vipers

32,876 posts

228 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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Just watched the recording of the finish, whilst they are playing our anthem whilst Chris on the podium, any one notice a shot of our Union flag UPSIDE DOWN.

You see so many union flags upside down and it really pisses me off. There is a right way and a wrong way. FFS get it right.




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spikeyhead

17,311 posts

197 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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Congratulations to Froome and Yates on yellow and white respectively, it's been a great tour. Plenty of good racing, stage 12 with Froome and Sagan, and i think it was stage 8 with Froome doing new things downhill.

An excellent race.

mcelliott

8,660 posts

181 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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A bit shout out to Tobyn Horton who's local to me, for a magnificent 8th place in the RideLondon-Surrey Classic. First British rider over the line, world class result.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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Tour of Spain in a few weeks Froome starting it after Olympics

Long Drax

744 posts

170 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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johnxjsc1985 said:
Tour of Spain in a few weeks Froome starting it after Olympics
Ah yes, sharing some leadership responsibilities with Mikel Landa. Hehe!

Should be a nice party if Quintana and Contador turn up ready for some serious dancing.



Digger

14,663 posts

191 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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Surprised no one has raised this, but no dopers caught in the tdf this year?!

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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Digger said:
Surprised no one has raised this, but no dopers caught in the tdf this year?!
that's a good thing and the fact people complained it was boring maybe because a clean rider is not a superman and needs rest and has off days. the avg speed over the last few years has tailed off after being on the rise each year for decades

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3...

mcelliott

8,660 posts

181 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/armitstead-cleared...

Three missed tests in a career would be bad enough, but three in the space of a year? Good job she's not Russian.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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mcelliott said:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/armitstead-cleared...

Three missed tests in a career would be bad enough, but three in the space of a year? Good job she's not Russian.
apparently the Hotel receptionist would not give the testers her room number at 6am and they left so give her that one but what about the other two. Either the system isn't working or someone needs a rocket up them.
If they were Russian there would be a big stink about it for sure.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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I don't get how she got away with that. They all know how important the testing is and missing 'x' amount in a row is serious.

Not too sure about her now.

As others have said, if she was from certain other countries, questions would be asked.