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Bloody brilliant!
I also enjoyed CB's "what's for tea" comment. The professionally offended will go mental over it, possibly even demand blood. Given that his respect for Trott is visibly massive, I'm pretty sure he was referring to them being a couple, not some sort of anti woman stab. My quid says he's the Femail's public enemy number one tomorrow!
I also enjoyed CB's "what's for tea" comment. The professionally offended will go mental over it, possibly even demand blood. Given that his respect for Trott is visibly massive, I'm pretty sure he was referring to them being a couple, not some sort of anti woman stab. My quid says he's the Femail's public enemy number one tomorrow!
What a mess with the derny bike in the Keirin final, after letting Kenny and Awang get away with it they had no choice but to let Eilers off as well.
I wonder if those electric bikes just can't go any faster so the derny rider couldn't pile on any more speed as he was leaving the track.
I note that some of the athletes and coaches from other countries are starting to question how GB are so successful at the Olympics when they aren't at other events. Not sure it's helpful casting aspersions like that, perhaps they are suggesting there is some sort of super secret doping program that British Cycling saves just for the Olympics but doesn't bother using for other events.
I wonder if those electric bikes just can't go any faster so the derny rider couldn't pile on any more speed as he was leaving the track.
I note that some of the athletes and coaches from other countries are starting to question how GB are so successful at the Olympics when they aren't at other events. Not sure it's helpful casting aspersions like that, perhaps they are suggesting there is some sort of super secret doping program that British Cycling saves just for the Olympics but doesn't bother using for other events.
_dobbo_ said:
What a mess with the derny bike in the Keirin final, after letting Kenny and Awang get away with it they had no choice but to let Eilers off as well.
I wonder if those electric bikes just can't go any faster so the derny rider couldn't pile on any more speed as he was leaving the track.
I note that some of the athletes and coaches from other countries are starting to question how GB are so successful at the Olympics when they aren't at other events. Not sure it's helpful casting aspersions like that, perhaps they are suggesting there is some sort of super secret doping program that British Cycling saves just for the Olympics but doesn't bother using for other events.
They couldn't provide anything near conclusive evidence that any of the riders had "passed" the derny though. Repeated slow motion of various angles were inconclusive.I wonder if those electric bikes just can't go any faster so the derny rider couldn't pile on any more speed as he was leaving the track.
I note that some of the athletes and coaches from other countries are starting to question how GB are so successful at the Olympics when they aren't at other events. Not sure it's helpful casting aspersions like that, perhaps they are suggesting there is some sort of super secret doping program that British Cycling saves just for the Olympics but doesn't bother using for other events.
The rule wording is so vague with regards to bikes, wheels, exit point etc that they had no choice but to reset with all involved. Had they placed a photo finish camera setup at any point, then they would have been able to exclude using their own interpretation, but it still would have been open to challenge and deeply unsatisfactory. A rewrite is needed.
Better to have a derny ridden by someone experienced, accelerating over the line, pulling off immediately, and the rule stating that no part of a competitors bike can overlap any part of the derny before the line. After the line then it's the derny rider's problem to get out of the way. And of course a proper photo camera on the line.
Leithen said:
Better to have a derny ridden by someone experienced, accelerating over the line, pulling off immediately, and the rule stating that no part of a competitors bike can overlap any part of the derny before the line. After the line then it's the derny rider's problem to get out of the way. And of course a proper photo camera on the line.
Well, quite. The fact was it all seemed like a situation they weren't prepared for, hence my comment about whether the bike is maxed out which was causing the problem. Thing is, where was the lack of experience - the derny bike or the guy firing the gun highlighting the infraction?
Either way I think there might be some rule clarifications for the next major track event!
_dobbo_ said:
Thing is, where was the lack of experience - the derny bike or the guy firing the gun highlighting the infraction?
The derny bike rider. Bonkers!Leithen said:
_dobbo_ said:
What a mess with the derny bike in the Keirin final, after letting Kenny and Awang get away with it they had no choice but to let Eilers off as well.
I wonder if those electric bikes just can't go any faster so the derny rider couldn't pile on any more speed as he was leaving the track.
I note that some of the athletes and coaches from other countries are starting to question how GB are so successful at the Olympics when they aren't at other events. Not sure it's helpful casting aspersions like that, perhaps they are suggesting there is some sort of super secret doping program that British Cycling saves just for the Olympics but doesn't bother using for other events.
They couldn't provide anything near conclusive evidence that any of the riders had "passed" the derny though. Repeated slow motion of various angles were inconclusive.I wonder if those electric bikes just can't go any faster so the derny rider couldn't pile on any more speed as he was leaving the track.
I note that some of the athletes and coaches from other countries are starting to question how GB are so successful at the Olympics when they aren't at other events. Not sure it's helpful casting aspersions like that, perhaps they are suggesting there is some sort of super secret doping program that British Cycling saves just for the Olympics but doesn't bother using for other events.
The rule wording is so vague with regards to bikes, wheels, exit point etc that they had no choice but to reset with all involved. Had they placed a photo finish camera setup at any point, then they would have been able to exclude using their own interpretation, but it still would have been open to challenge and deeply unsatisfactory. A rewrite is needed.
Better to have a derny ridden by someone experienced, accelerating over the line, pulling off immediately, and the rule stating that no part of a competitors bike can overlap any part of the derny before the line. After the line then it's the derny rider's problem to get out of the way. And of course a proper photo camera on the line.
Better still, cancel the whole dopey Keirin event.
I mean, who devised that?
Rich_W said:
blade runner said:
The Mad Monk said:
I mean, who devised that?
The JapaneseKeirin was added to the Olympic programme a short time after the Japanese Keirin association made a substantial (rumoured something like $3M) to the UCI.
Rocksteadyeddie said:
The Madison is a much better spectacle, and the 4k individual pursuit a much bigger athletic test. And why does swimming have so many gold medals but cycling got the number of events reduced enormously at Beijing?
losing the 4k pursuit was the equivalent of taking out the 1500m in Athletics it would never happen. Funny that two of our nailed on Golds were removed.I remember going to the velodrome in Ghent when I was a kid about 25 years ago and thinking the kierin was pretty nuts even then. But it was a "proper" derny bike none of this electric rubbish.
Agree the Madison is better but it's perhaps a little harder to follow for the layperson, and track cycling already has some confusing events!
Agree the Madison is better but it's perhaps a little harder to follow for the layperson, and track cycling already has some confusing events!
_dobbo_ said:
I remember going to the velodrome in Ghent when I was a kid about 25 years ago and thinking the kierin was pretty nuts even then. But it was a "proper" derny bike none of this electric rubbish.
Agree the Madison is better but it's perhaps a little harder to follow for the layperson, and track cycling already has some confusing events!
no more so than the hop skip and Jump. The swimmers have untold time for their schedule its nonsense that anyone can win as many medals as the like of Phelps it would be like giving Bolt the chance to win the 25m sprint right through to 200m in 25m increments . We definitely need the Pursuit backAgree the Madison is better but it's perhaps a little harder to follow for the layperson, and track cycling already has some confusing events!
_dobbo_ said:
I remember going to the velodrome in Ghent when I was a kid about 25 years ago and thinking the kierin was pretty nuts even then. But it was a "proper" derny bike none of this electric rubbish.
Agree the Madison is better but it's perhaps a little harder to follow for the layperson, and track cycling already has some confusing events!
I remember going to Staines stadium to watch Reg Harris race Arie van Vliet.Agree the Madison is better but it's perhaps a little harder to follow for the layperson, and track cycling already has some confusing events!
How long ago was that?
http://www.simonlewis.com/sc5.html scroll down to Staines.
Edited by The Mad Monk on Thursday 18th August 10:07
jesusbuiltmycar said:
I was watching the BMX time trial / seeding yesterday and wondered why they don't use a bigger gear and don't have any aero... Marginal Gains that could be expoited?
No expert but I think positioning into turn one is key, thus the gear choice favours acceleration over top end.The Mad Monk said:
I remember going to Staines stadium to watch Reg Harris race Arie van Vliet.
How long ago was that?
http://www.simonlewis.com/sc5.html scroll down to Staines.
I met the great man back in the 70's when I was just a lad. He was having a pint and smoking his pipe around the time he made a come back.How long ago was that?
http://www.simonlewis.com/sc5.html scroll down to Staines.
Edited by The Mad Monk on Thursday 18th August 10:07
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